Jagged Alliance 3 from Haemimont Games

[Papill0n]

It's really a shame this game won't be expanded on, it was a fun experience and I wanted to play at least one more campaign of it. We'll see if modders do anything with it, but given the relative lack of activity on that front I doubt it. Still, it was a great game regardless, and perhaps there's hope for a decent JA4 sometime in the future as a result.

There's at least one group of guys who's doing some campaign stuff. I am doing some campaign stuff, too. What is holding us back - for me at least - is the mapping. Ja2 mapping was lightning fast compared to Ja3 mapping. The mod editor in general is very slow. Maybe I should get a better rig. But just for Ja3 modding I won't. Other guys seem to be able to come up with nice maps already though, and there are a few tech wizards, too who can do very creative stuff. But this needs some time and the question is, wll anybody still play Ja3 when some noteworthy campaign stuff comes out or has everyone moved on to the next XCom2 clone.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Should have picked Barry earlier.

 

[Beowulf]

It's really a shame this game won't be expanded on, it was a fun experience and I wanted to play at least one more campaign of it. We'll see if modders do anything with it, but given the relative lack of activity on that front I doubt it. Still, it was a great game regardless, and perhaps there's hope for a decent JA4 sometime in the future as a result.

There's at least one group of guys who's doing some campaign stuff. I am doing some campaign stuff, too. What is holding us back - for me at least - is the mapping. Ja2 mapping was lightning fast compared to Ja3 mapping. The mod editor in general is very slow. Maybe I should get a better rig. But just for Ja3 modding I won't. Other guys seem to be able to come up with nice maps already though, and there are a few tech wizards, too who can do very creative stuff. But this needs some time and the question is, wll anybody still play Ja3 when some noteworthy campaign stuff comes out or has everyone moved on to the next XCom2 clone.

I will play it even years later, so better make it good. Please.
JA3 has some flaws, but it's still miles better tactics game than any XCom clones.

Sure, some of it was just trying different mods and idling, but that's a remarkable achievement for a single player game this days to hold my attention for so long.

 

[Papill0n]

You don't wanna know my hours clocked into it (though I guess it also counts hours spent in mod edtor). Last played 7 January was the before the Extension/DLC?

 

[Beowulf]

Correct, haven't touched the DLC stuff yet.

 

[Papill0n]

In my opinion, the DLC is not a huge deal. Too much clichée even for a JA game. But it can be a challenge, so that's that. I would have hoped for a cooler DLC though :/

 

[Old One]

I've been playing this again lately, now that it's all patched up.

It definitely has it's flaws and you can complain about this or that, but at it's core it's just a really fun game. It's improved a lot after the past few updates too.

 

[Alienman]

I must say that I'm very surprised that the game is done as it is. No expansions or DLCs. I'm sure people would buy it, and it's a perfect game for it, too. The format itself is made for expansions. Kinda sucks that we won't be getting anything new.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

I must say that I'm very surprised that the game is done as it is. No expansions or DLCs. I'm sure people would buy it, and it's a perfect game for it, too. The format itself is made for expansions. Kinda sucks that we won't be getting anything new.

Do we know on what are the developers working on now?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

I must say that I'm very surprised that the game is done as it is. No expansions or DLCs. I'm sure people would buy it, and it's a perfect game for it, too. The format itself is made for expansions. Kinda sucks that we won't be getting anything new.

Do we know on what are the developers working on now?

We don't which is why people consider the game to be dead on DLC/Xpac

Most modern titles with breakout success that JA3 has will usually have routine communication and roadmap if the devs are expecting to ship some DLCs because it keeps engagement and people anticipating towards the DLC. Its essentially low effort high impact marketing for games with good launch

The fact that they haven't communicated DLC/Xpac plan by now and is mostly silent after the last big patch means the project has very likely been done

Moreover its not that this Dev in particular is the "silent and release" kind of dev, the actively communicate during late development up to launch, and after launch with the major patches

 

[Alienman]

I must say that I'm very surprised that the game is done as it is. No expansions or DLCs. I'm sure people would buy it, and it's a perfect game for it, too. The format itself is made for expansions. Kinda sucks that we won't be getting anything new.

Do we know on what are the developers working on now?

No idea. But don't get my hopes up now.

 

[Strange Fellow]

Gib Jagged Alliance 3: Unfinished Deadly Business Games!

 

[Alienman]

Snow expansion pls.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Snow expansion pls.

Fuck off!
Let people enjoy what little summer there is left.

 

[deuxhero]

Could be going for a standalone expansion Jagged Alliance 4. They've built a great engine and mechanics that just need a relatively small amount of tweaking so a new campaign with some new mercs would be relatively cheap and quick. The 30th anniversary of JA is in April next year, and that's the time to announce something.

 

[Beowulf]

Hopefully not a new Tropico game (even if they're not that bad). The latest thing listed as their release is the DLC for Stranded.
I won't blame you if you don't know what he hell it is, as I heard about it now for the first time, I believe. Also this Stranded thing has more recent patches.
Anyway, who knows, perhaps some developers are indeed working on some kind of a standalone/sequel. It would be a shame if they let all this groundwork they made for JA3 go to waste.

 

[raeven]

Cover system is kinda weird, Ja2's system was simple, straighforward.

LMFAO

 

[Papill0n]

What makes you think otherwise?

Ja2 had no game-ish nonsense to its cover system like covering regenerates 4 AP for the next turn and makes hits grazing shots or how you can be in cover and see around the corner without exposing yourself (but only standing, crouching is totally different) and how using certain attacks would magickally debuff the cover buff. Ja2 was just very logical. You're behind something big enough, you can't be seen. You're behind something hard enough, you won't be hit. The rules for covering were just the same as the rules for all other tactical game aspects. Just like you would expect it. No gamey shit systems tacked on. Ja3 is a mess of shit systems tacked together from industry standard shit. But I still enjoy it greatly after 25 years of Ja2, so there

 

[raeven]

Ja2 was just very logical. You're behind something big enough, you can't be seen.

Go ahead and use the hotkey to look at what is and isn't in cover for a given merc and tell me if you still feel this way. Half the time the sector next to the giant rock is exposed while an exposed sector two squares away is in cover.

I get why it's like this, it has to do with how the game calculates lines of sight, but it feels completely bonkers as a player.

Also as much as I love JA2, adding or subtracting APs for obscure reasons is kind of a core part of how it works.

 

[Abu Antar]

As long as the studio doesn't shut down. JA3 is good enough to warrant a sequel. The question is if sales were good enough to warrant one.

 

[anvi]

I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.

 

[raeven]

I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.

Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.

 

[ArchAngel]

I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.

Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.

Nobody with any brains likes BG3

 

[raeven]

I'd like to hear Lilura's review of this.

Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.

Nobody with any brains likes BG3

People who prefer their RPGs old school (full customizable party, turn based, emphasis on choices and consequences) like it. It's not for everybody though. That's okay, some people just prefer skyrim.

 

[Roguey]

Oh come on, you know she hates it. She doesn't even like BG3.

Well BG3 is a gay reddit social sim that doesn't look it could have been released in the 90s. JA3 is a bit more faithful, but yeah, I'm pretty sure she wouldn't like it either since it's not indisputably better than JA2.