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Jagged Alliance 3 from Haemimont Games

Raghar

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Yes, the first sectors are pretty small. The engagements happen on longer ranges than shown in the trailers, though, so it's not that bad.

Overall it's really good. Even merc's voicelines are more entertaining than annoying. I'm enjoying it so far.
But there is a lot of small issues with audio, enemy alertness and this combat start with first turn going to the enemies is ridiculous at times. Certain video settings don't work or reset as well.
Some design choices are also baffling, like accuracy penalty for difference in XP levels.


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Congratulation for not missing IMP web button. Not many streamers were as lucky.
 

Tyranicon

A Memory of Eternity
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Game is okay so far but...

That stupid ass free-move so your enemies can get in cover is the most asinine, unrealistic, 2023 pro-gamer thing they could've added.

I was wondering how it plays out, and it's literally all your enemies scoot into cover as soon as they detect you.

At least your starting squad doesn't miss 90% of their shots beyond 5 meters, so at least there's that.
 

Lemming42

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Why does every damn game these days start with a little "Our game is hard. You will get fucked to death. This isn't a game for Pussies. You're a pussy? Use Pussy Mode. This is a rock hard game" notice?
 

Modron

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Why does every damn game these days start with a little "Our game is hard. You will get fucked to death. This isn't a game for Pussies. You're a pussy? Use Pussy Mode. This is a rock hard game" notice?
So that game journalists switch to easy mode instead of being unable to complete the tutorial on normal.
 

Tyranicon

A Memory of Eternity
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Why does every damn game these days start with a little "Our game is hard. You will get fucked to death. This isn't a game for Pussies. You're a pussy? Use Pussy Mode. This is a rock hard game" notice?

No this is a legit concern since mouth breathers will review your game negatively because it's too hard, etc. Colony Ship had this problem IIRC.
 

Jarmaro

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Why does every damn game these days start with a little "Our game is hard. You will get fucked to death. This isn't a game for Pussies. You're a pussy? Use Pussy Mode. This is a rock hard game" notice?
People misunderstand that older games are considered 'hard' because they were made in a specific way to create a specific challenge, but it became a cultural meme in gaming circles that the 'classics' were 'hardcore', and now midwits that think themselves superior want to play 'hardcore' games to maintain their self-image as hardcore gamers. Some people need to have the game suck their dick just for playing it and be called a good boy for winning.
 

Hobo Elf

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65 damage headshot. Enemy doesn't die. Attacks me like nothing had happened. :negative:
Game is OK. Nothing too special imo. Mechanics are about as subpar as I feared. I think the main problem is that enemies have HP bloat and so the flaws of the combat mechanics rear their head too much. If combat was more lethal / faster then maybe some of the simplifications wouldn't matter too much.
 

Stavrophore

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Played two missions, it's basically a an XCOM lite mobile game with JA2 merc flavor on top. You dont even get grenades or abilities at first, very boring.
Melee extremely OP so far. I think i might play it if im truly bored, right now i will give it chance to the end of tutorial island and see how it goes. It doesn't look promising, unless its the one of those games that have poor upfront and good backend.
 

Readher

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Poland
Why does every damn game these days start with a little "Our game is hard. You will get fucked to death. This isn't a game for Pussies. You're a pussy? Use Pussy Mode. This is a rock hard game" notice?
Games aren't supposed to pose a challenge nowadays. They're interactive movies where the gameplay session are just dopamine doses that make normies feel good, since they feel like they accomplished something. This is especially true among millennials and it's why they insist every game is single-player/co-op, as PvP makes them face actual challenge and unmask them as low skilled faggots.

That's not to say I don't like single-player or co-op games as I'm literally in a thread about game that is both, but you'd be surprised how mad people on plebbit can be that a game includes PvP. Hunt Showdown recently had a new peak concurrent players record, and half the comments were crying that they wish it was pure PvE instead. Literal mental illness.
 

Thorgeim

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May 11, 2018
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Not that it matters too much to me but gotta be honest, this looks like shit, graphix-wise.

Washed out, bland, generic and positively 2015.

Then again Surviving Mars looks 2010 at best and it's grate so yeah.
I was expecting it a bit better too. Even though its not the most important part, being 3D somehow makes things worse.

Also im not sure what it is but the game doesnt feel as satisfying, maybe its some of the simplified mechanics, weird stealth, fucking AI free move, dead not dropping their shit, not sure.

I actually reinstalled JA2 after years, set up 1.13, it includes a nice resolution options/scaling, so the cute 2D iso view still looks awesome in 2023. I may play this instead and see if JA3 gets some decent mods...
 

Fargus

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Come home, Slav man. The Bulgoids spent too much of the budget on getting African niggers to fuck their wives for "research", the real JA3 was released years ago.

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Nigger, i remember playing this game back then. Gotta look it up on torrents one of these days.
 

Stavrophore

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FYI, if you think the aiming reticle works like in 1.13 where if the reticle was inside the silhouette of enemy it was a guaranteed hit, then stop. The size of reticle doesn't mean the bullet will go there 100%, you can have two characters with same reticle size over enemy, yet higher hit chance. There's already hit chance mod on workshop, and it shows the lack of proper bullet simulation for the game. The reticle size on the enemy is just smoke and mirror and not the actual cone where bullets will go ala 1.13 mod.
 

Stavrophore

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How do i silently eliminate someone? Everytime i sneak and use the ability of Igor for quiet elimination, it does nothing.
The art-style is so offputting, despite the game being 3D it is soulless, it has no charm, it's like ubisoft games, like ghost recon breakpoint or other globohomo slop. Why the modern games have this similar art-style? It's very dry, it feels like craftsman work rather than artist. Lack of antialiasing is driving me insane tbh. Was that a pun intended? If so, then good job devs, the game is trully JAGGED alliance now.
 

bobocrunch

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You need to sneak, use the attack button and choose what you want, then actually sneak up to the guy and click him without being seen. I've had good (and bad from the pic) luck with stealth during night rains. Try FSR if it's an option, it's a lot less jaggy than any of the others

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Lemming42

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Blood's knife throw is total ass for stealth takedowns. Used it like eight times and six of those times have just ended with me getting shot in the dick by an annoyed man with a knfie sticking out of his neck.
 

Fargus

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Ok, i checked. Never seen this dude before, but he sounds super frustrated with the game. Not much of a review to be honest.

But if you want a recap:

He played the streamer version.
He compains that the game is of early access quality.
His game crashed 11 times in 1.5 hours during a stream. Pc specs: i7 9700k, 32gb ram, 4080.
Retarded AI, civilian blocked his entire team while they were hiding behind bar stand. He shot him in the head 12 times and civilian survived because of locked health points (wtf?). So the dude had to restart the mission.
Object interraction like cutting wire fence didn't work or works like shit. It also sent one of his mercs walking straight to the enemies while he was trying to cut wire lol. He is mad af.
He's mad that pistol shots blow up enemy heads and considers it stupid.
Too many problems overall to mention all. His words.
Doesn't like aiming mechanics and considers combat very poor and shitty. Also really butthurt about no visible chance to hit like in nu-xcom or penis point lol.
Complains about retarded logic of mercs starting equipment: elite sniper (some ukrainian whore merc, i dont know her) starts with shitty gewehr 1898. Igor starts with knife and pistol even though his uncle is legendary Ivan.
Mad at bulgarians. Says even hungry chink couldn't have made worse game than this.
Metaphorical. Compared the game to a cheap old diseased whore caked in makeup and said that if this would have been your first girl you'd become an impotent stuttering at the sight of a woman.

He gave it 1\10 and called it disappointment of the year lol

He is buttmad, some points are legit, some sound like he is trying to hate the game too hard. Was amusing non the less.
 
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warcrimes666

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Insert Title Here Strap Yourselves In Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Truly unfortunate but it's a shit game with a silence of the lambs skinsuit on and I should have known from all those reviews. The 9 out of 10s from the fag brigade make sense now. Half baked with only superficial trappings on display and gunplay is ass. I've refunded and will buy Xenonauts 2, the demo was much better than this game for me. I'm really feeling the decline on this one.

I really hope AI will be able to hold a wrench because at this rate of decline, we'll be lucky to still have running water in 20 years.

The zombie one with the guy that carries enough prestige to post on these esteemed forums, Urban Strife, was also 10 times better and much much closer to carrying the torch on the legacy in comparison.

What it did do well is make me reinstall 2 and looking now at the current state of mods for a run tomorrow, lets go boys.
 

Raghar

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2D art needs proper artistic direction. 3D art can get away from that by being photorealistic.
 

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