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Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

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Because he's the director and a loudmouth. So many people out there begging him to give them some indication he was being coerced into writing the game this way, and he was having none of it.
Yeah, but Vávra is the kind of guy that would rather be known as a literal cocksucker than admit anyone has ever forced him to do anything. His facebook is plastered top to bottom with his anti-rapefugee, anti-DEI, free speech bloviating, yet he put in a Mary Sue negro who happens to also be a doctor? Really? It just doesn't add up, neither in terms of his beliefs, nor in terms of his competence (I mean come the fuck on, Mary Sues are downright amateur hour).
Narcissistic, greedy boomer-like going through midlife crisis.
Thing is he also thinks he's some gaming messiah a la Kojima, or some shit...
 

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The beginning of the game is not as good as the first game. It reminds me of the Witcher 3 dlc and gayboredom combined. The first game had a better setup and motivation for the game. Nevertheless it is way better than Brothel 3.
 

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I'm struggling in the beginning still. I'm doing the quests to get to the Wedding but I'm constantly out of money and when I try to steal to get some money I get caught all the time. How do I steal and not get caught?
It's tricky to steal during the day. Wait for the night and clean house, it's waaay easier. Plus people only realize shit's missing in the morning, by that time you'll be long gone. Just a warning, if you overdo it you'll still be a wanted man, even if nobody saw you.

Oh and you definitely need lockpicks and solid Thievery to steal anything worth shit.

In general my No. 1 advice is this - don't try gallivanting across the open world right from the get go, stick to the main quest for a while. Ideally when the game spits you out in Troskowitz go immediately to work at the mill, they'll teach you a lot of stuff, give you free food and bed and you'd be able to earn good money. Then go get your horse to Semin and your dog. Blam, life is 200% easier.
my main income was selling loot with the perks relating to it; kill bandits>loot gear>repair with kits/sharpen swords then sell, had some overencumbered walks half the map(which levels up strength) before getting the horse/its inventory. now I have 15k+ groschen and probably more than that in stolen goods from trosky castle in stash :P
 

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This. 100% this. Embracer is to blame.
Do you have a single fact to back this up?

Yeah, but Vávra is the kind of guy that would rather be known as a literal cocksucker than admit anyone has ever forced him to do anything. His facebook is plastered top to bottom with his anti-rapefugee, anti-DEI, free speech bloviating, yet he put in a Mary Sue negro who happens to also be a doctor? Really? It just doesn't add up, neither in terms of his beliefs, nor in terms of his competence (I mean come the fuck on, Mary Sues are downright amateur hour).
He's stated that as far as he's concerned, he's doing Diversity Right.


"believable stories about actual human beings." - this is what he actually believes KCD2 is. He is a moron. Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.
 

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The biggest stock owners of Embracer are a Swedish guy who never ever tried to tell me what to do and by government of Saudi Arabia. But keep dreaming about Black Rock.

"It was all me, everything, 100% me" - Vavra over and over again.

It was I.


Oh yes that explains a lot.
 
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i might be going "too fast" compared to other people
im 70 hours in and i think im close to the final siege in the game

im not doing all the sidequests i see, but i did quite a few of them
when in done with the main quest i think im going to take some time off the game and later come back to sidequests

main story has quite a few "wtf is this" moments and im not even talking about the controversies that many here love to talk about
but the game its still quite a enjoyable ride
 

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my main income was selling loot with the perks relating to it; kill bandits>loot gear>repair
My advice to stick to the MQ pertains for the very early game. If you're so good you can kill reliably bandits in your beggar rags and with your basic bitch hunting sword then selling loot is ofc superior. It'll not be the case for the vast majority of ppl tho.
 

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my main income was selling loot with the perks relating to it; kill bandits>loot gear>repair
My advice to stick to the MQ pertains for the very early game. If you're so good you can kill reliably bandits in your beggar rags and with your basic bitch hunting sword then selling loot is ofc superior. It'll not be the case for the vast majority of ppl tho.
I mean, combat is much easier than the first game. No more bandits masterstriking you constantly, they all wait for their turn and basically never attack all at once, and I feel like the window to perfect block is big af compared to KCD1. You can just take whatever weapon, perfect block all the hits easily, and just hit from the unprotected sides, and it's super easy to smash all the bandits right after starting the game.
 

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I had like 30k by the time of the semine wedding and cannot fathom anyone struggling to make money in this game.

barely picked handful of locks before trosky castle, by the time I'm out I'll be a master thief

very thievery incentivizing design; steal blacksmith's inventory and stash it next door in your room lol, half the rest of the game I'll be stash<->merchant running...
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The big problem isn't making money, it's keeping yourself from making too much.

I did the quest for the "early game power armor" - that Brunswick armor that comes with the Lion's Crest DLC. I am restraining myself from doing sidequests from villages, now that I am at the castle. It seems nonsensical from a roleplaying standpoint.

I'll progress "For Victory" next. Main lvl 14.

One conclusion I draw from my ~40hrs of playing is that the most useful "potion" in this game is really any alcoholic drink :) You get bonus speech, strength, agility, charisma, all up to +4 simultaneously. Drink is widely available and very cheap, even if you buy it instead of just steal or loot it. My Henry is walking around sauced most of the time actually, and before important conversations the speech bonus can reach up to +4 if I can get all the way up the positive side of the buff.
 
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I'm struggling in the beginning still. I'm doing the quests to get to the Wedding but I'm constantly out of money and when I try to steal to get some money I get caught all the time. How do I steal and not get caught? I just want to steal food and random shit for a bit of money. My regular video game logic is not working here. I read online that the NPC's can't see you in the area or they will just automatically assume it was you who took the items? Is that real? Any tips?
Stealing sucks. If anyone spots you at any time within like 12 hours of committing a crime, you get blamed for it. If you want to steal shit, start at night outside of town, and knock out every guard you see without being spotted. Then make sure everything you steal gets fenced ASAP. If you get spotted with local stolen items, no matter how much time has passed, you'll be pinched.

If you want some easy money in the beginning--
-Go along the south side of the pond to the west. In the bathing spot there should be a sack with some Groschen in it. There's also a treasure map to a pot along the south bank between the herb lady and Trosky with some more money. This requires no skill/combat to get

-Outside of Trosky to the north is a tree with a bench and a book. Read the book and then sell it to the scribe for some cash. Also throw rocks at every bird's nest you see, some of them have valuable jewelry in them.

-Along the north side of the pond where you were ambushed at the beginning there are some bandits now. They should be pretty easy, but if you're having trouble try stealth KOs. Loot their chest (look for keys on their bodies) and they should have two horses, take the one that is more valuable to the nomad camp and they will buy it for 300-400 groschen. Sell all the extra armor for money too.

I found stealing isn't worth the hassle personally, after clearing 3-4 bandit camps I was swimming in loot.

Circled spots are free money, arrow is the bandits

1EPis0w.jpeg
All crime is village-specific, you can rob one village blind and then just not go back there. Or wait a few days for the "stolen" tag to dissipate from your loot. Or only steal groschen, since it can't be flagged as stolen. To be honest I'm struggling to come up with better advice since I had like 30k by the time of the semine wedding and cannot fathom anyone struggling to make money in this game.
The very early game where I stopped doing the main quest for a while before you're actually supposed to stop (so after you get released from the stocks with nothing and not after Jaunt when you get a horse and some basic gear) was great in not even having money to sleep at an inn, not having the skills to rob anyone, and not having any armor or a decent weapon to fight bandits. So when you're just starting out, I fully get the "how to make moneys" question. I spent the first few days just roaming the woods naked in search of beladonna just to be able to save.

But once you get your bearings, I agree, money stops being a problem. However, what the actual fuck, 30k? I'm in the Kuttenberg region and I've never had more than 5k in my pocket. At this point I barely loot anything except for some select piece of gear that might sell well later. And that's due to the simple reason of being limited by the money merchants have. First map has like 2 merchants that will buy anything and one blacksmith who will buy weapons and armor. And they rarely have over 300 groschen on them at any time. When you clean them out, it takes several days for them to restock. And they're spread out so it takes forever to even get to them. Were you just picking up everything and then skipping time to sell it, or what? Or am I missing some easy way to sell your loot?

I did the quest for the "early game power armor" - that Brunswick armor that comes with the Lion's Crest DLC.
When I got it, I just stashed it all in the chest (except for the dagger). It was way too strong for the entire Trosky map.
 

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So when you're just starting out, I fully get the "how to make moneys" question. I spent the first few days just roaming the woods naked in search of beladonna just to be able to save.
Even then, you are immediately pointed to two people who can give you a bed, a pot with food, and paid work.

not after Jaunt when you get a horse and some basic gear
Do they give you Pebbles for free after The Jaunt?
There's a persuasion check to get her for free. Not sure what they ask for if you fail tho.
I failed that check and later haggled the 150 price down to 110 :)
 

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I'm struggling in the beginning still. I'm doing the quests to get to the Wedding but I'm constantly out of money and when I try to steal to get some money I get caught all the time. How do I steal and not get caught? I just want to steal food and random shit for a bit of money. My regular video game logic is not working here. I read online that the NPC's can't see you in the area or they will just automatically assume it was you who took the items? Is that real? Any tips?
Stealing sucks. If anyone spots you at any time within like 12 hours of committing a crime, you get blamed for it. If you want to steal shit, start at night outside of town, and knock out every guard you see without being spotted. Then make sure everything you steal gets fenced ASAP. If you get spotted with local stolen items, no matter how much time has passed, you'll be pinched.

If you want some easy money in the beginning--
-Go along the south side of the pond to the west. In the bathing spot there should be a sack with some Groschen in it. There's also a treasure map to a pot along the south bank between the herb lady and Trosky with some more money. This requires no skill/combat to get

-Outside of Trosky to the north is a tree with a bench and a book. Read the book and then sell it to the scribe for some cash. Also throw rocks at every bird's nest you see, some of them have valuable jewelry in them.

-Along the north side of the pond where you were ambushed at the beginning there are some bandits now. They should be pretty easy, but if you're having trouble try stealth KOs. Loot their chest (look for keys on their bodies) and they should have two horses, take the one that is more valuable to the nomad camp and they will buy it for 300-400 groschen. Sell all the extra armor for money too.

I found stealing isn't worth the hassle personally, after clearing 3-4 bandit camps I was swimming in loot.

Circled spots are free money, arrow is the bandits

1EPis0w.jpeg
All crime is village-specific, you can rob one village blind and then just not go back there. Or wait a few days for the "stolen" tag to dissipate from your loot. Or only steal groschen, since it can't be flagged as stolen. To be honest I'm struggling to come up with better advice since I had like 30k by the time of the semine wedding and cannot fathom anyone struggling to make money in this game.
The very early game where I stopped doing the main quest for a while before you're actually supposed to stop (so after you get released from the stocks with nothing and not after Jaunt when you get a horse and some basic gear) was great in not even having money to sleep at an inn, not having the skills to rob anyone, and not having any armor or a decent weapon to fight bandits. So when you're just starting out, I fully get the "how to make moneys" question. I spent the first few days just roaming the woods naked in search of beladonna just to be able to save.

But once you get your bearings, I agree, money stops being a problem. However, what the actual fuck, 30k? I'm in the Kuttenberg region and I've never had more than 5k in my pocket. At this point I barely loot anything except for some select piece of gear that might sell well later. And that's due to the simple reason of being limited by the money merchants have. First map has like 2 merchants that will buy anything and one blacksmith who will buy weapons and armor. And they rarely have over 300 groschen on them at any time. When you clean them out, it takes several days for them to restock. And they're spread out so it takes forever to even get to them. Were you just picking up everything and then skipping time to sell it, or what? Or am I missing some easy way to sell your loot?

I did the quest for the "early game power armor" - that Brunswick armor that comes with the Lion's Crest DLC.
When I got it, I just stashed it all in the chest (except for the dagger). It was way too strong for the entire Trosky map.
Nah, I generally only loot gloves and helmets with the highest value/weight, and even then I stopped bothering after awhile. You get straight groschen from robbery, especially pickpocketing. Some people walk around with several hundred for some reason, and everyone has at least 5-10, and every merchant has a very hard chest somewhere near them with their full inventory (including cash)
 

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You'd think you were dealing with the gypsos not a respectable stable master. :M
I immediately disliked that guy, must have been his haircut.a

"believable stories about actual human beings." - this is what he actually believes KCD2 is. He is a moron. Don't attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity.
Ok, I'm with you on this. But why now, why not in 2018 or even earlier? Do you think it's his age? He believes himself wiser for adopting views he has been so outspoken against in the past?

Nah, I generally only loot gloves and helmets with the highest value/weight, and even then I stopped bothering after awhile.
One way to exploit the perks is to get the "Keen Eye" which gives you Craftsmanship XP when a smith is repairing armor or weapons, and then train with weapons and armor so you can damage them, and get the armor repaired in order to level up your Craftsmanship as a byproduct of the weapons training. With the haggling element to repairs you also level up Speech I guess.

Actually, from the perk description - "If you get your gear repaired by a craftsman..." - I gather this will give you Craftsmanship XP from repairing at cobblers, saddlemakers and tailors, not just from blacksmiths.

This way you can kill bandits, loot all their clothes, which are ideal for the purposes, because they are in very low condition, and then gain Craftsmanship from repairing them at a tailor. I guess the gain in XP is proportional to the amount of condition repaired.

When I got it, I just stashed it all in the chest (except for the dagger). It was way too strong for the entire Trosky map.
I was curious if there is reactivity from the Troskowitz scribe if you show up and talk to him wearing the armor. But he doesn't comment at all :(
 
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Even then, you are immediately pointed to two people who can give you a bed
But that smelled like the "MAIN QUEST" so I deliberately avoided going to either of them for the longest time.
You make your life 200% harder if you don't set up your base at Tachov or at the mill from the get go.
I mean, combat is much easier than the first game...You can just take whatever weapon, perfect block all the hits easily, and just hit from the unprotected sides
As ppl already said ITT, combat is much more stat-based than it seems. So hitting mobs in the unprotected side doesn't work if your weapon skills are lower than theirs because they'll just block everything anyway. And they'll keep blocking until you run out of stamina and/or weapon durability and then you're fucked.

Personally I don't think trying to make money by hunting bandits very early game is particularly effective or enjoyable, you're WAY better off stealing at night unseen (don't overdo it tho), but whatever rocks people's boat.
 

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I failed that check and later haggled the 150 price down to 110 :)
You'd think you were dealing with the gypsos not a respectable stable master. :M
Even then, you are immediately pointed to two people who can give you a bed
But that smelled like the "MAIN QUEST" so I deliberately avoided going to either of them for the longest time.
I had a spoiler from a vid before release and swapped Pebbles in the story with the other horse, Idk it was a bad call now cos Pebbles' hidden perk activated way before and new horse's stats are shit compared to Pebs with the perk and immediately after I lost a race, woulda lost a second one right after that if not for corner cutting. Will deal with the trash horse till herring becomes red herring
Despair
 

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I have arrived at the second map. Completed almost all quests in the first map, and the only 'woke' shit I saw was:
- that romance option dialog choice with Hans ("I care about you"), which I chose, but it ended up nowhere and I saw no other such option again anyway
- that knight from Trotzky castle who offered me to sleep with him during banquet, which I did not choose, because it would clearly end up with a cutscene I don't want to watch

Other than that I'd also add that the game in general seems more degenerate in sexuality, that is multiple women want to sleep with Henry all the time. Not sure how realistic it is though, after all Czechia is known for porn and prostitutes, so maybe it was always like that there. Nonetheless, it all feels so modern and trashy, in the first KCD romances felt meaningful with going for walks with a girl and such, but here it's 'hey, let's pick some herbs, okay, now let's fuck' or 'let's dance for 30 seconds, okay, let's fuck now'

As for woke agenda in regards to race, I've seen none so far. There are 'friendly' Cumans, but they don't seem out of place and you can find out they
were part of the force that flattened Skalitz, and the game allows you to kill them and gives you appropriate revenge dialog options

There seem to be plenty of G*rmans around though.

So if what is said in the other (may Infinitron forvive me for mentioning it) thread is true, then it must be in the late part of the game, because aside from some optional sexual degeneracy the first map is pretty much like the first KCD. I do feel, however, that KCD had better and more memorable quests, and while being just as railroaded it didn't feel so as much.

Thanks,
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I'm struggling in the beginning still. I'm doing the quests to get to the Wedding but I'm constantly out of money and when I try to steal to get some money I get caught all the time.

What do you wear? Make sure your visibility and noise levels are low, also that you don't stink.

Thanks,
Sherry
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I'm struggling in the beginning still. I'm doing the quests to get to the Wedding but I'm constantly out of money and when I try to steal to get some money I get caught all the time. How do I steal and not get caught? I just want to steal food and random shit for a bit of money. My regular video game logic is not working here. I read online that the NPC's can't see you in the area or they will just automatically assume it was you who took the items? Is that real? Any tips?
Stealing sucks. If anyone spots you at any time within like 12 hours of committing a crime, you get blamed for it. If you want to steal shit, start at night outside of town, and knock out every guard you see without being spotted. Then make sure everything you steal gets fenced ASAP. If you get spotted with local stolen items, no matter how much time has passed, you'll be pinched.

If you want some easy money in the beginning--
-Go along the south side of the pond to the west. In the bathing spot there should be a sack with some Groschen in it. There's also a treasure map to a pot along the south bank between the herb lady and Trosky with some more money. This requires no skill/combat to get

-Outside of Trosky to the north is a tree with a bench and a book. Read the book and then sell it to the scribe for some cash. Also throw rocks at every bird's nest you see, some of them have valuable jewelry in them.

-Along the north side of the pond where you were ambushed at the beginning there are some bandits now. They should be pretty easy, but if you're having trouble try stealth KOs. Loot their chest (look for keys on their bodies) and they should have two horses, take the one that is more valuable to the nomad camp and they will buy it for 300-400 groschen. Sell all the extra armor for money too.

I found stealing isn't worth the hassle personally, after clearing 3-4 bandit camps I was swimming in loot.

Circled spots are free money, arrow is the bandits

1EPis0w.jpeg

Staling is fucking easy, I swim in money and have no idea what to do with it.

Git gud.

Thanks,
Sherry
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As ppl already said ITT, combat is much more stat-based than it seems. So hitting mobs in the unprotected side doesn't work if your weapon skills are lower than theirs because they'll just block everything anyway. And they'll keep blocking until you run out of stamina and/or weapon durability and then you're fucked.

Personally I don't think trying to make money by hunting bandits very early game is particularly effective or enjoyable, you're WAY better off stealing at night unseen (don't overdo it tho), but whatever rocks people's boat.

Idk, I ran into 2 bandits like 10 minutes after being released from the stocks, having only shitty hunting sword and 0 armor, and I had a pretty easy time beating them. I had to reload once because my fucking sword did indeed break from trying to play it patiently and blocking too much, but the second time I went more on the offensive and smashed them pretty quickly. I had a hard time with the shielded ones at the beginning, these fuckers block everything indeed until you get some skills, but all the other bandits were free money.
 

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Musa lives rent free in my head. I am still scratching my head, trying to understand why is he included into the game. Was it really Vavra's own decision? Why did he decide to do that, when a flawless token black is EXACTLY what the journos were demanding back in the day, and he refused to kneel to them?
 

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