Kingdom Come: Deliverance II Thread

[Grampy_Bone]

Eh, I liked the Voivode, he was a funny guy. Grew on me. Plus it makes Henry cooler to say he "Wrestled a gypsy to win the tribe's magic amulet." Gypsy women being conniving and manipulative of their men is also pretty on point.

 

[The Wall]

Did Daniel Vavra got Israeli passport? The least Netanyahu could do for builder of synagogue. Digital or real, doesn't matter. Devotion counts

I gotta admit thou, KCD2 has closest to reality depiction of Jews in modern entertainment since Passion of The Christ. At least there are reasons given why people hated Jews back then, and not "just because" as children are thought in schools. Also it openly uses word "goy" and showed Jewish lust for money

Under the radar kinda based

 

[cvv]

Some quests are also obviously suffering from lack of motion capture

My first encounter with Rosa left a p. bad impression on account of her talking and looking like a 2010 Bethesda NPC. The best looking woman in the game and they animated her so poorly.

 

[NecroLord]

Some quests are also obviously suffering from lack of motion capture

My first encounter with Rosa left a p. bad impression on account of her talking and looking like a 2010 Bethesda NPC. The best looking woman in the game and they animated her so poorly.

Best looking woman?
She looks like slavic/czech/ukrainian prostitute.
And her face...

 

[Darkdog13]

Some quests are also obviously suffering from lack of motion capture

My first encounter with Rosa left a p. bad impression on account of her talking and looking like a 2010 Bethesda NPC. The best looking woman in the game and they animated her so poorly.

Her face had me convinced that the "romance" scene would legit have Henry find out "she" was packing a secret sausage.

 

[notpl]

Churches should be open

Just watched an interview with Tobi today (his czech is ridiculously good considering he is german, wtf) where he was asked about this. It was a matter of manpower. They had to cut lot of stuff, not just church interiors but stuff like fishing, bard playing, better horse combat etc because they wanted to release the game in as polished state as humanly possible and it is better to have less stuff that is more polished than more stuff that's broken and buggy.

Outside of Kuttenberg city, every other building in the game is enterable. Every little shed in every single village. For this lie to be believable, they would need to have modeled one or two run-down, simple village churches - plaster walls, pews, an altar, no glass windows, no paintings, nothing fancy. Then it would be believable that they simply didn't have the time or money to make the bigger and grander ones while still making an effort to create a believable and authentic world. The little church outside of Suchdol is like 5 meters long. They couldn't do that, but they had the resources for Musa? They had time to model and texture dramatically different styles of clothing, caravans, tents, ornamental rugs and more to make the Gypsy camp look so good? Come on.

If your priorities are so fucked up that you have "literally any churches whatsoever" way at the bottom of the to-do list next to things like "fishing" and "bard playing," then it is fair to say you are designing from an ahistorical, anti-Christian perspective. Faith was as important to these people as food.

 

[Roguey]

Best looking woman?
She looks like slavic/czech/ukrainian prostitute.
And her face...

Rosa was modeled after a Welsh actress, Katherine's the slav.

 

[Quillon]

autism ftw

 

[Quillon]

Welp, that was the end. I wasn't expecting the game to finish here; 117 hours run but most of it spent on side content & I played the game unusually slowly. Enjoyed the first map much more, disappointed by side content in Kuttenberg; way too much feminist pondering in many quests, content around Sam & Musa was awkward most of the time as well as both straight romance options and they both stay up in the air by the end. Biggest side quest was the murder mystery one I think which dragged on and on, would've gone on still but they coped out and finished it with a cutscene. Also in the second map same NPCs in different quests don't acknowledge they already met Henry before; they haven't overlooked most of these contingencies in the first map. I give first half of the game 9.5/10 and second half 7.5/10 so 8.5/10 overall. This isn't their Witcher 3, maybe Witcher 2.5.

I'm gonna repeat myself again and say that Henry is the wrong protag for these games, almost all the content in both games would make more sense with a noble MC. Henry just makes whatever situation they put him in at least a little awkward to begin with and they keep coming up with interesting nobles in side content which makes me question why they haven't made the MC like one of those. I lower my score to 8

And all these very impressive immersive sim systems wasted on a cutscene heavy linear story gaym, bethesda does or did it right with making their games way more open ended and with custom protag; it doesn't even makes sense for Henry to be evil or a thief which they accounted for at the end of the story btw. if I didn't find it funny I would've complained that they punish the players with the stuff which they actively incentivize us to do, to see more of the content of the game if nothing else.

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Also with the quest that screenshot's taken above

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I wiped out their camp obv, not that I was expecting the game to actually recognize it and lift the siege then and there BUT I also killed the 2 commanders, it doesn't make sense for them to continue the siege, yeah there must be other nobles who are also after the silver and must have taken command but game never reveals anything about it, which makes the rohirrim charge at the end not very climactic besides there not being an army in the field to charge at with that many horseman.

 

[Zariusz]

I don't like that in Kuttenberg map quest continuity seems to be almost non existent, in Trosky when i did a quest for some NPC, later quests (not from the same questline) that included that character would have some short comment that Henry knew those characters and vice versa.
In Kuttenberg that is very rare, for example i have already became a local fist fighting champion but during murder mystery quest, owner of a certain shady inn behaved like if he met me first time in life. Quite annoying example of decline in the same game.

 

[damager]

This type of shit is why they sold to the black cock and jewish propaganda. Recognition by the woke and degenerate gaming press

 

[Hace El Oso]

Six years isn't enough time to model a church, in a game called kingdom come.

Then I guess the only explanation is they hate churches.

And the hate-built four of them in the first game. AND a mind-blowing monastery. With bared teeth and hate tears streaming down their faces.

Oh and they allowed you to lovingly rebuild one in a DLC by a total accident. Just a slip of the code.

Vávra doesn’t have the power (anymore) to be solely responsible for this with his tiresome Gen-X tryhard cynicism and atheism. To completely leave out the single most important and all-consuming part of daily life for so many people, especially townspeople, must be a reflection of the extremity of modern Czech atheism.

 

[Elttharion]

Just took a peak in the NIGGER!1!! FAGGOT!1!! thread, first time in like two weeks, and jesus fuck those dildos are still going

And they all collectively spun themselves into a total derangement. Avowed just came out and Lost Records and they're keeping themselves busy foaming at the mouth over KCD2 of all games.

Well we were always bound to found out our camp contains a small sliver of flatbrains too.

Lost Records

Why would anyone on the codex care about the lesbian simulator game made by the devs who spend the last ten years releasing lesbian simulator games?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Six years isn't enough time to model a church, in a game called kingdom come.

Then I guess the only explanation is they hate churches.

And the hate-built four of them in the first game. AND a mind-blowing monastery. With bared teeth and hate tears streaming down their faces.

Oh and they allowed you to lovingly rebuild one in a DLC by a total accident. Just a slip of the code.

Vávra doesn’t have the power (anymore) to be solely responsible for this with his tiresome Gen-X tryhard cynicism and atheism. To completely leave out the single most important and all-consuming part of daily life for so many people, especially townspeople, must be a reflection of the extremity of modern Czech atheism.

I was willing to concede the lack of churches in KCD2 to Warhorse insisting to model them exactly to the architecture and art they had, or would have had. There aren't that many churches in KCD1 but I think each of them has unique murals. Scripting and recording the daily or weekly masses is also no small task. After hitting such great sales numbers, if they don't add these things in a DLC, it would be a real shame.

I agree with Stavrophore that lack of churches and the lack of children is diminishing the immersion and, I would say, the roleplaying opportunities. Imagine praying gamified - if Henry grows in Scholarship enough he gets access to a perk which has the downside that if Henry accumulates a certain number of kills he needs to pray and confess or suffer a debuff until he does so. That's just one option off the top of my head, which I think falls exactly into the style of roleplaying KCD2 encourages. I don't like simple buffs for praying (like the bath house buff works) because they turn into busywork after a while, but a deal like the one I describe can make a powerful player think twice before going into loot-gathering combat or add challenge to otherwise trivial combat.

 

[Konjad]

After finishing KCD2 I feel so hollow knowing that's it. The end. No more mid/high budget RPGs. Everything else that will come out will be huge turds I will not wish to touch even for a minute (including Avowed) and I only have old RPGs to replay and only some scarce indies to look forward to.

KCD2 is an end of an era of RPGs revival. The last RPG that is still good (even if inferior to the first one). Now it's another dark ages for RPGs, another decade of shit and garbage. It's over. It's all over.

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[AwesomeButton]

After finishing KCD2 I feel so hollow knowing that's it. The end. No more mid/high budget RPGs. Everything else that will come out will be huge turds I will not wish to touch even for a minute (including Avowed) and I only have old RPGs to replay and only some scarce indies to look forward to.

KCD2 is an end of an era of RPGs revival. The last RPG that was still good (even if inferior to the first one). Now it's another dark ages for RPGs, another decade of shit and garbage. It's over. It's all over.

Thanks,
Sherry
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I'll kind of welcome the end of KCD2, at least until Hardcore mode and the story DLCs come online.

It will do great for my sleeping hours. I have this colleague who is a steam friend. He has 37 hours clocked and I have 72. Even though I have two children and he has none. I can only play after everyone is asleep. You do the math.

 

[Konjad]

After finishing KCD2 I feel so hollow knowing that's it. The end. No more mid/high budget RPGs. Everything else that will come out will be huge turds I will not wish to touch even for a minute (including Avowed) and I only have old RPGs to replay and only some scarce indies to look forward to.

KCD2 is an end of an era of RPGs revival. The last RPG that was still good (even if inferior to the first one). Now it's another dark ages for RPGs, another decade of shit and garbage. It's over. It's all over.

Thanks,
Sherry
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to Skinwalker's

I'll kind of welcome the end of KCD2, at least until Hardcore mode and the story DLCs come online.

It will do great for my sleeping hours. I have this colleague who is a steam friend. He has 37 hours clocked and I have 72. Even though I have two children and he has none. I can only play after everyone is asleep. You do the math.

Okay, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean there will be no more good RPGs since after KCD2 release.

Thanks,
Sherry
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[AwesomeButton]

After finishing KCD2 I feel so hollow knowing that's it. The end. No more mid/high budget RPGs. Everything else that will come out will be huge turds I will not wish to touch even for a minute (including Avowed) and I only have old RPGs to replay and only some scarce indies to look forward to.

KCD2 is an end of an era of RPGs revival. The last RPG that was still good (even if inferior to the first one). Now it's another dark ages for RPGs, another decade of shit and garbage. It's over. It's all over.

Thanks,
Sherry
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to Skinwalker's

I'll kind of welcome the end of KCD2, at least until Hardcore mode and the story DLCs come online.

It will do great for my sleeping hours. I have this colleague who is a steam friend. He has 37 hours clocked and I have 72. Even though I have two children and he has none. I can only play after everyone is asleep. You do the math.

Okay, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean there will be no more good RPGs since after KCD2 release.

Thanks,
Sherry
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to Skinwalker's

I recently had a similar 1:1 conversation with another codex guy, so it's someone knowledgable about available RPGs. What we found out was that neither of us has played extensively, or sometimes at all, most of the more-or-less good RPGs of the last years. I have enough good RPGs to explore just among those released in the last 10 years to last me another 10 years.

In movies, the movies worth watching can be counted on one hand in an average year. In RPGs, the releases worth playing can be counted on one hand for periods of 3-5 years.

 

[Konjad]

After finishing KCD2 I feel so hollow knowing that's it. The end. No more mid/high budget RPGs. Everything else that will come out will be huge turds I will not wish to touch even for a minute (including Avowed) and I only have old RPGs to replay and only some scarce indies to look forward to.

KCD2 is an end of an era of RPGs revival. The last RPG that was still good (even if inferior to the first one). Now it's another dark ages for RPGs, another decade of shit and garbage. It's over. It's all over.

Thanks,
Sherry
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to Skinwalker's

I'll kind of welcome the end of KCD2, at least until Hardcore mode and the story DLCs come online.

It will do great for my sleeping hours. I have this colleague who is a steam friend. He has 37 hours clocked and I have 72. Even though I have two children and he has none. I can only play after everyone is asleep. You do the math.

Okay, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean there will be no more good RPGs since after KCD2 release.

Thanks,
Sherry
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to Skinwalker's

I recently had a similar 1:1 conversation with another codex guy, so it's someone knowledgable about available RPGs. What we found out was that neither of us has played extensively, or sometimes at all, most of the more-or-less good RPGs of the last years. I have enough good RPGs to explore just among those released in the last 10 years to last me another 10 years.

In movies, the movies worth watching can be counted on one hand in an average year. In RPGs, the releases worth playing can be counted on one hand for periods of 3-5 years.

Good for you, but I had no kids and played everything

Thanks,
Sherry
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to Skinwalker's

 

[cvv]

KCD2 is an end of an era of RPGs revival.

Nonsense, there are delicious tryple As on the horizon, you just have to have faith in big studios.

Spoiler

 

[NecroLord]

After finishing KCD2 I feel so hollow knowing that's it. The end. No more mid/high budget RPGs. Everything else that will come out will be huge turds I will not wish to touch even for a minute (including Avowed) and I only have old RPGs to replay and only some scarce indies to look forward to.

KCD2 is an end of an era of RPGs revival. The last RPG that is still good (even if inferior to the first one). Now it's another dark ages for RPGs, another decade of shit and garbage. It's over. It's all over.

Thanks,
Sherry
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to Skinwalker's

Hate to break it to you, but KCD 2 is not an RPG.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Good for you, but I had no kids and played everything

And? What is the natural conclusion to be drawn from this exchange of exriences?

 

[Alienman]

I find the synagogue thing hilarious, because the same thing (well, almost) happened in The Last of Us 2. Now, I can't say stuff was removed because of the synagogue, but it's part of the exploration segment in the game. Huge effort went into the modelling of it. But it had no real narrative impact, beyond having one of the side-characters mention how much suffering their people had to withstand through the ages, lecturing the protagonist of the plight of the jewish people. You have to consider this is far into the apocalypse, where zombie-like creatures tear people's limbs off on a daily basis. And most of Earth's population has been killed off in one gruesome way or another. Also, somehow this synagogue is almost untouched. They even find pristine holy scripture intact

 

[moleman]

Still refrain myself from a proper playthrough. I'm waiting for hardcore mode.

Only played the through the prologue and just trying things out.

In the first village there is a flute player in the tavern.
I tried to punch him in the face but misjudged the distance so my punch stopped right in front of his face.
He replied with something like: "That was close! Now fuck off before I call the guards."
If this is a typical example of NPC reaction, it's pretty

 

[cvv]

lecturing the protagonist of the plight of the jewish people

I'm baffled by this complaint, do you imagine you can have Jewish NPCs in a game like that who DON'T mention at all the pogroms and persecution? When a decade earlier from the game's setting there was one of the largest pogroms in the medieval history, the entire Jewish ghetto in Prague wiped out, thousands of people massacred in one night? And that was just the most famous example among a mountain of other, smaller but constant ones, all over Bohemia, all over the HRE, all over medieval Europe?

It'd be like having a historically authentic game from the 1840s American South with no niggers on cotton fields.

Or a game about the Spartacus uprising where Spartacus' men don't mention even once that they're slaves and that Romans treated them poorly.

Or a game set on the RPG Codex where people don't make fun of SJWs.

What kind of bizarre notion is that? I'd expect this from a Kwan or some other non-European but aren't you Swedish? Has the Nordic education failed you with regard to the Joos in Middle Ages?