KickStarter Knights of the Chalice 2 Thread - Augury of Chaos

[Tweed]

Difficulty is fine even if a bit excessive but shit like "if you want me to leave the tavern, fight this earth elemental I summon" on a quest to peacefully escort drunken patrons out of a tavern is so utterly retarded I just can't help but take a break.

Yeah, that was a real headscratcher. Best part is how everyone kept falling over from grease and quicksand.

 

[Desiderius]

Difficulty is fine even if a bit excessive but shit like "if you want me to leave the tavern, fight this earth elemental I summon" on a quest to peacefully escort drunken patrons out of a tavern is so utterly retarded I just can't help but take a break.

Yeah, that was a real headscratcher. Best part is how everyone kept falling over from grease and quicksand.

The Elemental isn't immune to Prone. That's the joke. Haven't tried sliding him onto the the Dwarves yet. Even Pierre isn't that crazy. Or is he?

 

[Darth Roxor]

how can he get away with killing a party member and walk away

it's a harsh world out there

 

[Lim-Dûl]

Why do the sprites look so out of place? I watched some videos to consider playing and I noticed how awkward they looked, can't quite put my finger on it from the videos.

 

[Tweed]

Why do the sprites look so out of place? I watched some videos to consider playing and I noticed how awkward they looked, can't quite put my finger on it from the videos.

The sprites are designed around an isometic view, but the module was built with 2d tokens in mind. Plus the models themselves just look hideous, at least to me.

 

[Darth Roxor]

Because they were added as an afterthought. I can imagine them looking out of place particularly in the original areas of the campaign where the perspective is strictly top-down while they are made for isometric.

 

[Tweed]

Oh and Pierre said in his Matt Chat he'd be adding more paperdolls and models later for the corresponding races. Someone needs to make sure he makes lizardbolds and not dogbolds. Those new kobold portraits are awful.

 

[Reinhardt]

what sprites?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

what sprites?

Probably some fey creatures, no wonder they look out of place.

 

[Desiderius]

Man the tutorial is a work of art. Made me use two spells/tactics I’ve never even tried on the first two real fights and now they’re a staple. Fog Cloud owns Golems vs Magic Missile specialist.

First wipe vs Mimics when I took a wrong turn and ended up fighting the adds too.

And that Fighter turns into a beast. I can see why Samurai/Ranger would pale in comparison in a vacuum, though some of that is item dependent. Bard owning Ghost Dragon in melee is funny.

 

[Mortmal]

Is it just me or are all these fruity classes such as Samurai or Death Knight just cringe? I never liked this special snowflake bullshit, and I'm a bit disappointed to see KotC 2 full of it. I loved KotC 1, how does the second compare so far? Are there a lot of bugs? Should I wait for more updates?

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[AdamReith]

It's a shame Pierre didn't just expand on the art style of the first KOTC, I think they are about perfect for this type of game.

Could use a few variant sprites for mages and clerics but other than that it's very easy to see whats going on.

 

[Desiderius]

Just play with tokens. They’re great.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Oh and Pierre said in his Matt Chat he'd be adding more paperdolls and models later for the corresponding races. Someone needs to make sure he makes lizardbolds and not dogbolds. Those new kobold portraits are awful.

Now, I hope the kobolds look like some little doggos just for the butthurt it'd generate...

Cleared outside the castle, extremely easy overall asidee for the 2 dragons fight south west, mostly because one moved away and I couldn't target them both at once, one almost killed the DK.

 

[anvi]

This game is harder than Icewind Dale 1 and 2 put together. But it's a lot to do with RNG on initiative and rolls, so patience to reload works well. Also if you have a bunch of spell casters like my party, there's basically a solution to every fight in those spells. You just have to find the right ones and use them in the right way, it's not easy but there is a way. Multiple ways in fact, there was a fight near the end of the game where I needed to do it without resting for spells and without using any important spells. I tried a few different ways and lost each time, then I tried just summoning 1 Marilith pet which is a high level spell, but only 1 spell. Combined with a few low level spells like Strength, Constitution, Enhanced Weapon, etc. it slaughtered an entire battle by itself. Way better than wasting Prismatic Void and stuff and it getting resisted or just blinding them.

I get a lot of success with Cleric spells too. I have a Wiz, Sorcerer and Druid so I can nuke the hell out of an area just fine. But damaging a single big target is frustrating. But then I noticed spells like Harm really slaughter single targets and gets resisted a lot less. Also Holy Word is uber. I can just run the Cleric next to the big group of enemies and that will daze most enemies for a while. Epic game! I hardly ever re-play games but I would play this multiple times. It's my new TOEE.

 

[plem]

man, feels like Matt's not understanding a word Pierre says. maybe it's because I'm not a native speaker either but I didn't think his accent was that bad.

 

[AdamReith]

man, feels like Matt's not understanding a word Pierre says. maybe it's because I'm not a native speaker either but I didn't think his accent was that bad.

Pierre doesn't seem the most talkitive person. My guess is he spent this entire interview thinking up new encounters for KOTC3.

 

[Abu Antar]

Oh and Pierre said in his Matt Chat he'd be adding more paperdolls and models later for the corresponding races. Someone needs to make sure he makes lizardbolds and not dogbolds. Those new kobold portraits are awful.

Now, I hope the kobolds look like some little doggos just for the butthurt it'd generate...

Edit: Loading fine for me, but maybe it's for the best that this doggo kobold doesn't load for others..

 

[Grauken]

 

[Serus]

Because they were added as an afterthought. I can imagine them looking out of place particularly in the original areas of the campaign where the perspective is strictly top-down while they are made for isometric.

Yes they do like out of place. However, they look OK in the areas made for them, tutorial and Finchbury. The tokens look out of place there. One option is to switch to tokens once you start Act 1. At least I did.

I am correct to assume that next module, when and if finished will be in pseudo-isometric perspective, just like tutorial and the town?
This will a pain to decide what to use. Eye candy (relatively speaking) vs readability.

 

[Serus]

man, feels like Matt's not understanding a word Pierre says. maybe it's because I'm not a native speaker either but I didn't think his accent was that bad.

Pierre doesn't seem the most talkitive person. My guess is he spent this entire interview thinking up new encounters for KOTC3.

Or what root to eat when he returns home.

 

[Reinhardt]

Eye candy (relatively speaking) vs readability

tokens or tokens?

 

[Serus]

Eye candy (relatively speaking) vs readability

tokens or tokens?

KotC2 tokens aren't eye candy. The idea of making token based graphics could work. The problem with KotC2 is that the tokens are ugly. They are practical too. I am using them starting from Act 1 - but not for their beauty.

 

[Reinhardt]

The problem with KotC2 is that the tokens in this game are ugly.

make your own then

 

[Darth Canoli]

KotC2 tokens aren't eye candy. The idea of making token based graphics could work. The problem with KotC2 is that the tokens are ugly. They are practical too. I am using them starting from Act 1 - but not for their beauty.

I find monsters tokens quite nice and there is a couple of token packs for PC tokens.