Mafia: Definitive Edition - remake of Mafia from Hangar 13

[cvv]

Apparently M2 DE is already out in some regions? Fucking staggered releases man.

Looks exactly the same as PC version. I went back and played through it again at the weekend. Looks like 'Definitive Edition' just means a re-release for the current generation of consoles.

Went to YT, watched some old LPs, it seems they did polish it up a bit. The original looks more blurry and muddy.

 

[DalekFlay]

The people holding the purse strings will certainly insist upon it in some form. An authentic depiction of that time is threatening enough as to generally not be allowed, plain and simple. That's if the people rewriting it even have a conception of how things were, which is less and less likely.

I hate remixed history to push woke idealism, but it's not like black people didn't exist in that time in New York. It's also not like every Italian dude in New York hated them. If they add some minority characters (which I think is a safe bet) my annoyance will completely depend on how well they do it.

 

[Hace El Oso]

I hate remixed history to push woke idealism, but it's not like black people didn't exist in that time in New York. It's also not like every Italian dude in New York hated them. If they add some minority characters (which I think is a safe bet) my annoyance will completely depend on how well they do it.

There was vastly less mixed socializing than there is now, and it isn't a question of hate as much as it is of 'otherness'. Giving imaginary black gangs a starring role in a hypothetical historically faithful remake of Mafia or including some 'Rosie the Riveter' cutouts is simply irresistible. Both to the suits who control the money and want to minimize risk and the younger people actually making the game who likely simply don't know any better and potentially have an agenda on top of it.

Something I would love to see if deep changes are to be made would be more involvement with Chinatown, but a realistic depiction of it is, again, simply not possible either because it's considered 'problematic' or because younger people genuinely don't understand it. L.A. Noire was begging for a Chinatown chapter.

 

[Belegarsson]

If anyone wanna try Mafia 3 but grossed out by its washed out, lifeless brown color palette, then I suggest using any sweetfx preset that removes blur, increase sharpening and contrast. This was how I managed to stomach the game at launch.

Reinstalling the game to see if there's any performance/graphics upgrade and bug fixes. My experience was relatively fine compared to most people, but it certainly was still janky as fuck even after the big patch released a few weeks after launch.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

 

[Infinitron]

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Haha the price.

 

[Quillon]

It's fishy they are showing so little of Mafia 1.

 

[J_C]

It's fishy they are showing so little of Mafia 1.

Well most of the work probably goes to Mafia, that is the game which really needs a graphical facelift. M2 and 3 barely needs any uprade. And going by the screenshots, Mafia 1 will be the big bang, so I understand they are holding it back.

 

[Wirdschowerdn]

Just checked my Steam library.

Mafia II (classic) download size: 7,85GB
Mafia II Definitve Edition: 44,89GB

No thanks.

 

[DalekFlay]

There was vastly less mixed socializing than there is now, and it isn't a question of hate as much as it is of 'otherness'. Giving imaginary black gangs a starring role in a hypothetical historically faithful remake of Mafia or including some 'Rosie the Riveter' cutouts is simply irresistible. Both to the suits who control the money and want to minimize risk and the younger people actually making the game who likely simply don't know any better and potentially have an agenda on top of it.

Yeah I mean if they make him best buddies with a down on his luck black guy and they fight the rest of the mafia together then it'll be stupid. If they change the car mechanic guy to a black dude and they pal around a little, it'll be fine.

 

[Carrion]

By the way, it takes a special kind of asshole to take someone else's game, remake it from scratch, change the mechanics and the story, and call it "Definitive Edition".

 

[Child of Malkav]

Why haven't they shown yet gameplay of Mafia 1? I mean, I guess I know the answer but still, wanted to be sure it won't be what I think it will, which would be Mafia 2 gameplay and mechanics but with the story, city and characters from the first one. It won't be that. Right? Right?

Spoiler

Shit

 

[Sentinel]

Because it was announced today. How is that a question?

 

[DeepOcean]

Of the 3 games, only the first one is worth anything and they will probably ruin it with popamole cover shooting, what is the point?

 

[Agame]

I hate remixed history to push woke idealism, but it's not like black people didn't exist in that time in New York. It's also not like every Italian dude in New York hated them. If they add some minority characters (which I think is a safe bet) my annoyance will completely depend on how well they do it.

There was vastly less mixed socializing than there is now, and it isn't a question of hate as much as it is of 'otherness'. Giving imaginary black gangs a starring role in a hypothetical historically faithful remake of Mafia or including some 'Rosie the Riveter' cutouts is simply irresistible. Both to the suits who control the money and want to minimize risk and the younger people actually making the game who likely simply don't know any better and potentially have an agenda on top of it.

Something I would love to see if deep changes are to be made would be more involvement with Chinatown, but a realistic depiction of it is, again, simply not possible either because it's considered 'problematic' or because younger people genuinely don't understand it. L.A. Noire was begging for a Chinatown chapter.

Deadwood is a great example of how you can handle that kind of historical situation:



Thank god they made this show before all this 'current year' bullshit really started...

 

[Child of Malkav]

Because it was announced today. How is that a question?

Because they've already shown gameplay of M2. All three games were announced at the same time.

Edit: well, apparently M2 and M3 are out so that leaves only M1. Reading the Reddit sub, the 2 games have a bunch of issues, all technical in nature. Yeah, it doesn't bode well.

 

[Deadass]

wtf

 

[J_C]

wtf

It's a glitch in the Matrix.

 

[Child of Malkav]

How did they get it right in 2000 and still struggling with it today, 20 years later?
PS: referring to DX 1.

 

[Sentinel]

Because it was announced today. How is that a question?

Because they've already shown gameplay of M2. All three games were announced at the same time.

Edit: well, apparently M2 and M3 are out so that leaves only M1. Reading the Reddit sub, the 2 games have a bunch of issues, all technical in nature. Yeah, it doesn't bode well.

M2 and 3 were to be released within the next week of the announcement and both were just touch ups, not reworks from the ground up. Showing gameplay wasn't a very hard thing to do considering it was all built 10 years ago.

 

[DalekFlay]

Edit: well, apparently M2 and M3 are out so that leaves only M1. Reading the Reddit sub, the 2 games have a bunch of issues, all technical in nature. Yeah, it doesn't bode well.

From what I've read Mafia 3 is literally the same exact game, just bundled with its DLC like a "game of the year edition." So any technical issues would be years old. Mafia 2 is a real remaster, for better or worse.

 

[TheChickenKing]

I saw a number of people on the Steam forums and reddit complaining that Mafia 3 actually looks worse than the original, with blurrier textures and the like. Apparently there was a significant patch that came out for owners of the original (an extra 7 GBs or something thereabouts) so they did something, but as with the rest of these releases, it's apparently not great.

 

[Shackleton]

Mafia 3 was a really terrible game the first time around, never mind a terrible Mafia game. It sold like shit and was heavily discounted soon after release. I can't believe they'd spend any significant effort or cash on it again. I don't think I've ever played a game that bored me so much or was so repetitive, and I've played Assassins Creed 1.

 

[karoliner]

Anyone played Mafia 2 remaster and can compare to the original?