I think looks will never be good feature of games released by those devs, battle brothers didn't look good on surface either, it's just people tolerate it because it's not 3d or tries to look good.Okay, I'm just gonna say it... this looks generic as fuck and I think it's going to flop hard. And I say that as someone who loves and has played hundreds of hours of Battle Bros.
Not saying they needed to just do BB2 but I don't understand the appeal of this game. It's such a weird departure from what got them their initial success.
If the game ends up being great then I'll be happy to be proven wrong and eat these words. But I just can't get excited about another sort-of X-Com clone.
That's heresy talk.But I just can't get excited about another sort-of X-Com clone.
Getting more 4X vibes than X-com.We've had exactly one X-COM clone ever and it was called Xenonauts and it was pretty good. I'd like another. Not that this looks anything like an X-COM clone. Still looks more like a wargame to me than anything else.
BB already succeeded, they have nearly 19k reviews on steam, that's absolutely massive for a small indie studio with a 2d game.Not everyone is prestigious enough to play games with legless torso blobs.
Switching to 3D will draw in more of the normie audience. I hope they succeed, because BB was great and the devs deserve mainstream acclaim and moneys.
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It looks more like a war game actually but I get what you mean.I am not even talking about the switch to 3D necessarily. I mean the overall pitch and presentation of whatever this game is trying to be. It just looks extremely generic and uninspired.
I realize it's not 100% an X-Com clone which is why I included the qualifier "sort of". But it's military dudes fighting aliens in turn-based combat, which is close enough. And I just don't see anything about this that gets me excited.
BB looked great, especially monsters and equipment, a lot of armor/weapon art is absolutely gorgeous, and character models also look pretty good. Also it had amazing sound design, which worked perfectly with the visuals, I can't think of any other game where combat felt so "meaty", visceral and satisfying, purely in terms of audio/visual feedback, effect of hits, crits, showing damage on combatants, etc.How this game looks or what the theme is is irrelevant - Battle Bros was ugly colorforms in an incredibly generic fantasy setting, a masterpiece with a crappy cover. Either way, the cover doesn't matter here either. The question is whether the magical "pop" of their first game was due to brilliant gameplay design talent ... or a lightning strike. To mix a metaphor.
completely disagree. BB has a distinctive aesthetic that is charming, evocative of the setting, and not at all generic or cheap lookingHow this game looks or what the theme is is irrelevant - Battle Bros was ugly colorforms in an incredibly generic fantasy setting, a masterpiece with a crappy cover. Either way, the cover doesn't matter here either. The question is whether the magical "pop" of their first game was due to brilliant gameplay design talent ... or a lightning strike. To mix a metaphor.
that's cool, of course people's opinions differ. AND we're talking about art, the interpretation and judgment will always be subjective.Shaki agris I stand corrected. Personally I never felt the art was the reason BB was good, it's definitely not what I think of at all when I think of that game. But I guess opinions vary widely.
For me, the proof of this game will still be in how it plays. I'm not disappointed in the looks because I had no expectations in that regard. (It doesn't look especially bad to me, I kind of like the vibe. And looking at that teaser trailer again the sound is pretty cool imo.)
for sure. did you see any gameplay footage that did?Those are two completely different locations. It can't be all menacing all the time, that would be awful.
That trailer was a huge nothingburger, I wouldn't even count that as gameplay. But by all means assume the worst, that's always the smart thing to do.for sure. did you see any gameplay footage that did?Those are two completely different locations. It can't be all menacing all the time, that would be awful.
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What about Phoenix Point?We've had exactly one X-COM clone ever and it was called Xenonauts and it was pretty good. I'd like another. Not that this looks anything like an X-COM clone. Still looks more like a wargame to me than anything else.
I meant UFO: Enemy Unknown/X-COM: UFO Defense (1994).What about Phoenix Point?We've had exactly one X-COM clone ever and it was called Xenonauts and it was pretty good. I'd like another. Not that this looks anything like an X-COM clone. Still looks more like a wargame to me than anything else.