Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker Builds and Strats Thread

[VentilatorOfDoom]

Interesting. Currently it works with Valerie with her tower shield and sword. Probably shouldn't though. But if/when they fix it, I'll probably just have her go unarmed with shield. Her damage output is negligible anyway.

Well, the description says you need one hand free so I assumed it wouldn't work. Didn't test it. I definitely forgot +5 armor enhancement bonus from magic vestment.

 

[sebas]

I've just restarted as a Thassilonian Greed Wizard and I think I'm in love. Speccing him into Conjuration and Evokation for Sirocco. Feels the most powerful Arcane Caster archetype. Or at least the one I like most, not too fond of having a pet kitty be more important than my main char.

 

[Sheepherder]

How do weapons with speed property work? If I dual wield 2 speed daggers will I get two extra attacks? Does they stack with haste?

 

[Lawntoilet]

How do weapons with speed property work? If I dual wield 2 speed daggers will I get two extra attacks? Does they stack with haste?

Not sure if they stack with each other, but they don't stack with Haste.

 

[vazha]

Posted in the main thread, but Ekun's dog got knocked by the

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lich under Lonely Barrow

and I can't get him to respawn. Resting doesn't work and the body is gone when I go back to the barrow.
If I respec him, he doesn't get a new dog.
Anyone know how to fix this, or, failing that, how should I build him?

you do remember that he s not supposed to get animal companion until lvl 4 right? Other than that, no clue

 

[Yosharian]

The battle with the

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bloom flower fucked me over, as in I had to reduce difficulty to get past it. Cleared the first part where the party is split with no problem, but the fucking hydra and, more specifically, the fucking spiders that spawn out of nowhere proved too much.

In that regard, I can only conclude that I fucked up my party. The line up was like this:
1. Inquisitor

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2. Paladin

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3. Harrim

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4. Vivisectionist

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5. Octavia

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6. Fey Sylvan Sorcerer

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I believe that what fucked me over was, first and foremost, a lack of summons and effective crow control. On the other hand, I am very dissatisfied with the performance of the melee guys. They hit hard, especially the paladin who has triple digit crits, but that is if they actually manage to hit something, even if I buff them to the eyes.

Inquisitor has to stay since that's the mc, and I'd rather not drop the pally because he generally rocks. Everything else can go and I'm considering replacing both Octavia and the sorc with 2 wizards (or 2 sorcs or 1 sorc and 1 wizard, haven't decided yet), Harrim with a better cleric and the viv with, dunno yet, a better dex sneak melee dude, Nok Nok or Eku.

Come on, let me have it, how bad did I fuck up and what can I salvage?

Just grab a bard.

 

[Shadenuat]

Come on, let me have it, how bad did I fuck up and what can I salvage?

A lot of Feats look questionable (and Harrim is outright terrible) but it's still stronger than any party I ever run, since I don't use mercs. You're playing Unfair?

a lack of summons

You have cleric and 2 arcane casters, how much more do you need, exactly?

The second fight against Flower you should have just brought Harrim there loaded with Summon Undead and spammed them in every corner before monsters drop. Octavia should have picked up Summon Monster V or Summon Elemental by now. And then there's Sorc.

 

[razvedchiki]

Guise str or dex aldori def stacks the biggest ac?

 

[Luckmann]

Guise str or dex aldori def stacks the biggest ac?

Please form complete sentences.

 

[Shadenuat]

Care to elaborate, please?

Yosharian has cleric of Groetus in his sig, Harrim is basically that. He should have 2 Spell Focus Necromancy (or Evocation) & 2 Spell Penetration already.

 

[Andnjord]

Come on, let me have it, how bad did I fuck up and what can I salvage?

As the friendly demon said, grab spell focuses. Not just Necro on Harrim (so he can spam those juicy Boneshaker/Boneshatter) but also on your arcane casters, all those metamagics are kinda wasted on your sorceress if she can't break the targets victim's saves.

What's with the Paladin's Throw Anything?

Light armor on Octavia? That's a waste of a Spell Focus.

I don't see anyone who can go toe to toe with the enemies, no high AC man

 

[Luckmann]

1. Inquisitor

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2. Paladin

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Seriously though, what's up with the Throw Anything? That's a straight-up wasted feat for both those.

 

[Shadenuat]

It's free, although I wouldn't dip any of those into Vivi. These classes have their own abilities to reach and own ways of dealing extra damage (like Greater Bane). Like, hurrah for Inquisitor possibly never reaching level 6 spells during playthrough - depending on xp gained. Could have taken one of those pet/summon Inquisitors without any dips and contributed to party in a lot more strategic way.

Eh, munchkins.

 

[Yosharian]

Care to elaborate, please?

Yosharian has cleric of Groetus in his sig, Harrim is basically that. He should have 2 Spell Focus Necromancy (or Evocation) & 2 Spell Penetration already.

Bear in mind that the feat progression is completely adaptable. When I made those builds it was with two assumptions, 1) the game's effective level cap was 20, not 16 as it appears to actually be, and 2) spell resistance enemies would start cropping up around level 11+, whereas it appears that they may come sooner than that.

I really need to do another pass on all of those builds.

 

[Serus]

Care to elaborate, please?

Yosharian has cleric of Groetus in his sig, Harrim is basically that. He should have 2 Spell Focus Necromancy (or Evocation) & 2 Spell Penetration already.

I assume you give Harrim a longspear and try to keep him behind the tank and out of trouble? He really can't into archery and on the front, without any defensive feats he's dead meat.

 

[Andnjord]

2) spell resistance enemies would start cropping up around level 11+, whereas it appears that they may come sooner than that.

Meh, there's nothing terribly threatening that has Spell Resistance that can't be dealt with an axe to the face before that point. I think only the Bald Hilltop encounters do? Even then that's like two/three fights before that level 11.

Also, I've just made a monk for my lvl12 party of 4 (now 5) and holy crap. It feels like I just summoned Urgzzob into my campaign :D

 

[Shadenuat]

A lot of things have SR, even starting Act 2. For example, 3 lizards in Witch Hut area actually have a pretty high SR. You might not notice it depending on how you deal with encounters (i.e. Might or Magic). Starting Act 3, magical beasts usually have it. And a few things around corners of the world (like Devourer guarding some magic stuff).

And of course there's Concealment, so if you shoot Rays, you need to deal with that too.

 

[Andnjord]

A lot of things have SR, even starting Act 2. For example, 3 lizards in Witch Hut area actually have a pretty high SR. You might not notice it depending on how you deal with encounters (i.e. Might or Magic). Starting Act 3, magical beasts usually have it. And a few things around corners of the world (like Devourer guarding some magic stuff).

Ah, my mistake. Guess I tend to rely on lot on the proverbial axe to the face.

 

[Yosharian]

Updated builds, added a bonus build based on that old Abyssal summoner idea

 

[axedice]

Trickster build is really great but abyssal summoner seems a bit like a late bloomer. First few levels with sorc/monk can be a drag? Maybe a standard monster tactician with animal domain could be more effective with teamwork trip feat?

By endgame, those 7-8/good DR summons would be way more tankier but they'll always be 1 spell level lower as well.

 

[Gregz]

OK, thanks guys.


I was never able to make anything decent in any D&D ruleset, since I'm not familiar with it outside of the IE games and NWN2 so I'm trying to make something up as I go along which usually leads to shit. Updated my .txt for 2nd playthrough.

edit: or maybe I should restart, this depressed me...

Just use the respec mod.

 

[razvedchiki]

My brudas help me find de way of the aldori defender,for max ac de way of de dexterity or strenght is da best?

 

[ArchAngel]

So is anyone thinking about a full caster party run?
No animal companions allowed :D

 

[VentilatorOfDoom]

My brudas help me find de way of the aldori defender,for max ac de way of de dexterity or strenght is da best?

If DEX adds to AC but STR doesn't - what could possibly lead to "max AC"?

 

[Shadenuat]

Halfling aldori defender duelist scaled fist paladin or some shit. I also managed to reach +35 Trip without buffs on it and tripped giant bears. DEX based.

The actual damage output is miserable though, so doesn't really contribute to the party. (from my biased caster oriented play)