Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

Level 5 Amiri vs. the Stag Lord boss fight w/ CotW

Spoiler

(Barb underrated)

 

[Average Manatee]

Also for whoever was saying that bulletin boards didn't work, here's 3 of them in the same region:

+6 Other Modifiers. Keep in mind that it only applies to problems, not opportunities, though problems are by far the most prevalent advisor events and the most important to succeed in. For the price of 100 BP per settlement for 3 bulletin boards you effectively go from normal difficulty to effortless.

Keep in mind that these will help you in basically every event since even if you would have succeeded without it +6 is enough to upgrade your success to a triumph which generally gives like +2 more stats, and succeeding rather than failing is generally something like a +4 stat swing (e.g. from -2 to +2). Given that a +1 stat point costs around 20 BP built through buildings this means these bulletin boards will earn back their build cost in around 2 problems completed in the region. All of the standard + stat buildings are shit in comparison

(Barb underrated)

Respecced her to bloodrager actually. But close enough.

 

[Nas92]

Spoiler

Jesus Christ, the game doesn't pull punches in the last act. 4 problem events every day? Goddammit I also dicked around too much, I didn't get all of my stats to the max, nor could I do all the region upgrades and I only got one masterpiece item. But I guess it's now a huge rush to the endgame. My kingdom was at serene, and my stats were high, not to mention I turned kingdom management down to easy so maybe I won't get completely merked. That said, I only achieved Level 16 at this point in the game.
Fortunately I found the portal area quickly. Any tips for this part of the game?

It's the worst fucking part of the game, possibly the worst part in CRPG history. Just look at a youtube guide and not waste your time trying to figure it out yourself. It's not worth it.

Also make sure to stock up on mass heal scrolls before entering the area cause they can be used to damage the annoying ghost enemies.

Thanks especially for this piece of advice, I'd have been fucked in the very first area. Jesus Christ, this is insane.

Also, the game said that I'd resurrect with half my hit points, well, the ghosts killed me the first time around and I got the game over screen. So is this a fucking lie or am I misunderstanding something?

 

[Desiderius]

Also for whoever was saying that bulletin boards didn't work, here's 3 of them in the same region:

+6 Other Modifiers. Keep in mind that it only applies to problems, not opportunities, though problems are by far the most prevalent advisor events and the most important to succeed in. For the price of 100 BP per settlement for 3 bulletin boards you effectively go from normal difficulty to effortless.

Keep in mind that these will help you in basically every event since even if you would have succeeded without it +6 is enough to upgrade your success to a triumph which generally gives like +2 more stats, and succeeding rather than failing is generally something like a +4 stat swing (e.g. from -2 to +2). Given that a +1 stat point costs around 20 BP built through buildings this means these bulletin boards will earn back their build cost in around 2 problems completed in the region. All of the standard + stat buildings are shit in comparison

(Barb underrated)

Respecced her to bloodrager actually. But close enough.

See, even a nerfed barb pwns.

 

[Nas92]

Okay, what the fuck is it with the misbegotten troll? I spent a good hour or so killing it and most of it was using coup de grace over and over again. I've encountered one another almost unkillable enemy, in the Verdant Chambers I think, some primordial or another. Is this some kind of bug? Or is it some special effect they have on?

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Okay, what the fuck is it with the misbegotten troll? I spent a good hour or so killing it and most of it was using coup de grace over and over again. I've encountered one another almost unkillable enemy, in the Verdant Chambers I think, some primordial or another. Is this some kind of bug? Or is it some special effect they have on?

Troll can only be killed after taking fire or acid damage like in the lore

 

[Average Manatee]

Coup de Grace should work, the problem is the game doesn't raise the DC at all as it should so you have to do it till enemies roll a nat 1 if they have a high con save. Set it as your autocast ability and it shouldn't take more than 10s on RTwP

 

[Nas92]

Okay, what the fuck is it with the misbegotten troll? I spent a good hour or so killing it and most of it was using coup de grace over and over again. I've encountered one another almost unkillable enemy, in the Verdant Chambers I think, some primordial or another. Is this some kind of bug? Or is it some special effect they have on?

Troll can only be killed after taking fire or acid damage like in the lore

It didn't work. This is Ekun's troll at the end, it seems to be immune to fire and acid.

 

[Desiderius]

Okay, what the fuck is it with the misbegotten troll? I spent a good hour or so killing it and most of it was using coup de grace over and over again. I've encountered one another almost unkillable enemy, in the Verdant Chambers I think, some primordial or another. Is this some kind of bug? Or is it some special effect they have on?

 

[Desiderius]

Okay, what the fuck is it with the misbegotten troll? I spent a good hour or so killing it and most of it was using coup de grace over and over again. I've encountered one another almost unkillable enemy, in the Verdant Chambers I think, some primordial or another. Is this some kind of bug? Or is it some special effect they have on?

Troll can only be killed after taking fire or acid damage like in the lore

It didn't work. This is Ekun's troll at the end, it seems to be immune to fire and acid.

Use the Inspect feature to see what it requires to turn off its regen.

 

[Yosharian]

Okay, what the fuck is it with the misbegotten troll? I spent a good hour or so killing it and most of it was using coup de grace over and over again. I've encountered one another almost unkillable enemy, in the Verdant Chambers I think, some primordial or another. Is this some kind of bug? Or is it some special effect they have on?

Troll can only be killed after taking fire or acid damage like in the lore

It didn't work. This is Ekun's troll at the end, it seems to be immune to fire and acid.

Apparently Negative Energy damage will kill him, try that. Otherwise you should use Coup de Grace, unless you are actually having trouble downing him?

 

[Nas92]

I managed to kill him, but it was a hell of a fight and long because of spending at least half an hour using coup de grace over and over.
Also negative energy as in inflict wound spells and potions?

Another question, at the House at the Edge of Time, rescued companions who are not in your party, where are they? Do they stand around somewhere?

 

[Litmanen]

I managed to kill him, but it was a hell of a fight and long because of spending at least half an hour using coup de grace over and over.
Also negative energy as in inflict wound spells and potions?

Another question, at the House at the Edge of Time, rescued companions who are not in your party, where are they? Do they stand around somewhere?

Yes, you can find them outside, where there is also the merchant baby and Anoriel Eight Eyes.

They are there only in one of the two "realities", so if you don't find them once, go inside, step through one mist (or step thrpught them an unpair number of times) and go out again. They are there.

 

[Desiderius]

I managed to kill him, but it was a hell of a fight and long because of spending at least half an hour using coup de grace over and over.
Also negative energy as in inflict wound spells and potions?

Another question, at the House at the Edge of Time, rescued companions who are not in your party, where are they? Do they stand around somewhere?

If you’re using anything for a half hour you’ve missed something. There’s always an easier way.

Do you know how to use the Inspect button? You’ve already encountered a couple mobs whose regen is turned off with Negative Energy.

Does Hellfire’s non-fire half even count?

 

[Nas92]

If you’re using anything for a half hour you’ve missed something. There’s always an easier way.

Do you know how to use the Inspect button? You’ve already encountered a couple mobs whose regen is turned off with Negative Energy.

Does Hellfire’s non-fire half even count?

Yep, figured that. I know there's an inspect button, does it do the same thing as when you click on the effects in turn based mode? I never really thought to use that button because I thought it didn't do much of anything

Anyhow, quick story related question:

Spoiler

I haven't done nearly enough curse research projects, am I basically locked out of the so-called true ending? Not that I give much of a shit at this point, I'm not sure I'm up for a Nyrissa redemption - romance ending anyway. Also fuck her for killing Linzi, she's seriously grown on me and she was also a support-crowd control beast. Inspire Greatness and Inspire Heroics were really useful and Inspire Competence for those annoying Trickery skillchecks were invaluable.

 

[Litmanen]

If you’re using anything for a half hour you’ve missed something. There’s always an easier way.

Do you know how to use the Inspect button? You’ve already encountered a couple mobs whose regen is turned off with Negative Energy.

Does Hellfire’s non-fire half even count?

Yep, figured that. I know there's an inspect button, does it do the same thing as when you click on the effects in turn based mode? I never really thought to use that button because I thought it didn't do much of anything

Anyhow, quick story related question:

Spoiler

I haven't done nearly enough curse research projects, am I basically locked out of the so-called true ending? Not that I give much of a shit at this point, I'm not sure I'm up for a Nyrissa redemption - romance ending anyway. Also fuck her for killing Linzi, she's seriously grown on me and she was also a support-crowd control beast. Inspire Greatness and Inspire Heroics were really useful and Inspire Competence for those annoying Trickery skillchecks were invaluable.

Spoiler

Yeah, I think you are locked out to the "true ending". You needed to research (four? six? I cannot remember) curses and do other choices from the start of the game (more or less) to have it.

Linzi, even if I hate bards and always found them useless, was absolutely OP. I think that was the idea they had to take her out of the final part of the game. Because she really changed every single combat.

 

[Haplo]

I prefer to consider it secret/hidden ending.

I refuse calling mingling with a trecherous plant a "true ending".

 

[Litmanen]

I prefer to consider it secret/hidden ending.

I refuse calling mingling with a trecherous plant a "true ending".

I did just one playthrough (as I always do) and fad the "secret/hidden" ending but, for my part, it was the normal/wanted ending.

It's true she is a treacherous plant, but still worth a couple of bangings.

 

[Desiderius]

Inspect button lets you know what weak save is (and every other enemy stat).

How did you get this far without it lol?

 

[Nas92]

Inspect button lets you know what weak save is (and every other enemy stat).

How did you get this far without it lol?

I play on normal scrub difficulty, not on unfair. Don't need to be full-on autist to complete this game on normal, especially if you use turn-based mode which I consider to be another easy mode basically. There are a few instances, like the goblin shaman fight or any other caster fight, where turn-based mode is a hindrance, but aside from that, it makes life so much more convenient. Like I'd never use Sirocco in RTwP because I couldn't micro manage my party not to get rekt by it themselves, but in turn-based mode that is pretty easy.

But anyway back on topic. I've managed this far, but I think I'll start using inspect then. Or maybe I'll complete the game without it and start using it in Wrath of the Righteous.

 

[Nas92]

I prefer to consider it secret/hidden ending.

I refuse calling mingling with a trecherous plant a "true ending".

I did just one playthrough (as I always do) and fad the "secret/hidden" ending but, for my part, it was the normal/wanted ending.

It's true she is a treacherous plant, but still worth a couple of bangings.

Evindra is best girl. Or basically anyone other than Nyrissa tbh

 

[Litmanen]

Inspect button lets you know what weak save is (and every other enemy stat).

How did you get this far without it lol?

I play on normal scrub difficulty, not on unfair. Don't need to be full-on autist to complete this game on normal, especially if you use turn-based mode which I consider to be another easy mode basically. There are a few instances, like the goblin shaman fight or any other caster fight, where turn-based mode is a hindrance, but aside from that, it makes life so much more convenient. Like I'd never use Sirocco in RTwP because I couldn't micro manage my party not to get rekt by it themselves, but in turn-based mode that is pretty easy.

But anyway back on topic. I've managed this far, but I think I'll start using inspect then. Or maybe I'll complete the game without it and start using it in Wrath of the Righteous.

To be honest, anyway, that trolls can't be killed be normal weapons is clearly stated several times during a lot of dialogues and hints. Maybe you paid them not enough attention

 

[Nas92]

Inspect button lets you know what weak save is (and every other enemy stat).

How did you get this far without it lol?

I play on normal scrub difficulty, not on unfair. Don't need to be full-on autist to complete this game on normal, especially if you use turn-based mode which I consider to be another easy mode basically. There are a few instances, like the goblin shaman fight or any other caster fight, where turn-based mode is a hindrance, but aside from that, it makes life so much more convenient. Like I'd never use Sirocco in RTwP because I couldn't micro manage my party not to get rekt by it themselves, but in turn-based mode that is pretty easy.

But anyway back on topic. I've managed this far, but I think I'll start using inspect then. Or maybe I'll complete the game without it and start using it in Wrath of the Righteous.

To be honest, anyway, that trolls can't be killed be normal weapons is clearly stated several times during a lot of dialogues and hints. Maybe you paid them not enough attention

I know full well trolls can't be killed by normal weapons, but they need fire or acid when they're down otherwise I would have had a hard time during troll trouble. But this troll wasn't responding to acid or fire. It seemed to be completely unkillable, I've been acid splashing and acid arrowing and fireballing him, but the only way I could kill it was using coup de grace over and over. There was one another enemy that needed it, some treant in the Abandoned Keep during Betrayer's Flight. I don't know whether this is a bug or a feature, I guess inspect could have told me that.

 

[Nas92]

Okay, I've just leveled up and I'm fairly certain this is the last level up I'm going to have. I get one Level 9 spell for my sorcerer and I can't decide between Weird and Mass Icy Prison. Which will be more useful?

 

[Yosharian]

Okay, I've just leveled up and I'm fairly certain this is the last level up I'm going to have. I get one Level 9 spell for my sorcerer and I can't decide between Weird and Mass Icy Prison. Which will be more useful?

Oh dear, who's going to tell him