That's why my heart will always be with him...
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Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat
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No! Don't fall to the dark side! Proper tactical play is better than min maxxed builds.
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The joke that Owlcat played on him, and the main reason I love the game, is that he's not even maxxing the right things. There are multiple optima and he isn't near any of them.
Yosharian
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If you're not going to dip Paladin then I don't see the point of going Scaled Fist
Just go standard Monk and dump Cha
I didn't make that build. It's an InEffect one. I'd take Traditional monk and no vivi dip.
My idea for a Eldrich scion was Fighter 1 "Aldori swordlord"/Scaled fist 1/Eldrich Scion 18. But I don't know if these magus builds are good or bad? I made it to level 30 of the dungeon with one but it feels like my Sylvan sorc and Cleric are better.
I'm really not understanding the hype for them.
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He feels like he has to Vivi dip because otherwise he'd be doing no damage at all (he uses no buffs/group effects). To him that sneak die looks massive.
Aldori Scion is a nice well-balanced, lore-friendly build with some staying power, but it does rely on a good team around it which InEffect doesn't have since he just plays simultaneous solo builds.
If I remember correctly if you have a weapon like Beacon that blinds your enemy or have an ability/spell that makes your enemy flat footed, blind or immobilized (so you can flank) you can still sneak attack while alone.
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With one of the five other solo builds he runs simultaneously. He doesn't play solo, he just only understands solo builds.
Which is unfortunate for a munchkin since in P:K it's the group stuff that's OP.
Yosharian
Arcane
There are a bunch of ways but one way is Shatter Defenses + successful Intimidate
fantadomat
Arcane
I am amazed at his international popularity,even nerdy codexers like you know the divinity that is AZIS!
here is him casting a Miracle spell!
He is talanted and successful, and didn't even need to emigrate to GermanyI am amazed at his international popularity,even nerdy codexers like you know the divinity that is AZIS!
here is him casting a Miracle spell!
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Someone should make a AD&D 2nd edition backstab mod. Nok-nok is just slicing everyone up from the toes upwards. Even on giants, he rarely has to get to the knees or balls before they're paste.
There is true flanking and closer to table-top, but with how fast the flow of combat sometimes its kinda hard to use properly (both are designed for TB mod). It also removes ranged sneak attacks except on flat-footed target so you will probably only able to do so in the first round of combat. A very big nerf to normal Octavia build. Ekkun you can dip Slayer instead of Vivi.
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Ineffect's builds are memes that would be laughed out of any proper Pathfinder optimization forum. They became influential because they kinda work, they look prestigious to the unknowing with all their splashes, and no one else put so much effort into such comprehensive build autism specific to the game. I hate that people still recommend them.
Pink Eye may have become a monk meme, but his monk builds prove he's 10x as knowledgeable about the system as InEffect.
Pink Eye may have become a monk meme, but his monk builds prove he's 10x as knowledgeable about the system as InEffect.
Envy is sin, you know.
Except for that time when he forgot to, well, add a monk level to his monk build. Not even disgusting monk lovers want to play monks
Don't want a long ass debate like when I complained about the map resting mechanic, but I found something else I dislike. There seems to be an expectation that you will go back into zones that you already cleared completely ages ago, and I'm not a fan of that. Especially since there are so many of them. I would have never found Jubilost or Ekun if I hadn't half-remembered from seeing what the companion classes were before playing that I was supposed to have them before Troll Trouble, because I already cleared those areas before they were triggered to show up. Now I just spent god knows how long wandering the woods trying to find Linzi's printing press, before finally giving up and googling and discovering it randomly appeared in the Witch's Hut zone, which I cleared completely forever ago. I'm sure the defenders of any criticism will tell me I rushed to those zones, or it's "realistic" for them to change randomly, but I think it's shit from a gameplay perspective.
That aside, still loving the game. I find the kingdom stuff utterly boring though, so kind of wish I set it to auto. Though who knows how good the AI is at auto-managing it. Also the wisps on the island required me to rest over and over so I could recast lightning protection. Again though... minor gripes overall, great game, etc. etc.
That aside, still loving the game. I find the kingdom stuff utterly boring though, so kind of wish I set it to auto. Though who knows how good the AI is at auto-managing it. Also the wisps on the island required me to rest over and over so I could recast lightning protection. Again though... minor gripes overall, great game, etc. etc.
Villagkouras
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To those who have tested it: What are your thoughts on the turn based mod?
It's fine. I played around with it in the DLC dungeon. The game is already Turn Based by nature, and is balanced as so. The only issue is the encounter design. There are lots of trash encounters because of RTWP. But you can always toggle between the two modes.
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Someone should make a AD&D 2nd edition backstab mod. Nok-nok is just slicing everyone up from the toes upwards. Even on giants, he rarely has to get to the knees or balls before they're paste.
There is true flanking and closer to table-top, but with how fast the flow of combat sometimes its kinda hard to use properly (both are designed for TB mod). It also removes ranged sneak attacks except on flat-footed target so you will probably only able to do so in the first round of combat. A very big nerf to normal Octavia build. Ekkun you can dip Slayer instead of Vivi.
Ranged Vivi dip is close to the stupidest thing you could possibly do. Slayer isn't much better. Get that Improved Quarry Sweetness or just 8 levels of Huntmaster for Guarded Hearth/Inspired Command and giving Okbo Outflank and Shake it Off.
Flat-footed is easy with Shatter Defenses.
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Oh, please, you're just pretending to be retarded at this point. But if you really do require clarification, "they kinda work" as in "they are better than picking things at random", which is at least better than many, many other retards I've seen. I will never forget that moron on Steam yelling about how his 18STR, 7CHA sorcerer should work like "in every other RPG ever". And "they are memes" as in they are hilariously far from being the optimal builds they are presented as, and in fact worse in most cases than just 20 levels in whatever class. Seriously, what he did to Nok-Nok was criminal, and this is far from the only companion he built wrong. And it all stems from what Desiderius said, his inability to see the party as a unit that shores up each other's weaknesses, leading him to compromise each class's specialty in order to marginally cover whatever utility would be ordinarily provided by someone else. And also, I'd say, in his all-so-common among nerds desire to appear smarter than the rest, the only visionary good enough to see the splashes and hidden synergies that all the others missed.
Yosharian
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Be specific, what did he do to Nok-Nok and how would you build him instead? Just curiousOh, please, you're just pretending to be retarded at this point. But if you really do require clarification, "they kinda work" as in "they are better than picking things at random", which is at least better than many, many other retards I've seen. I will never forget that moron on Steam yelling about how his 18STR, 7CHA sorcerer should work like "in every other RPG ever". And "they are memes" as in they are hilariously far from being the optimal builds they are presented as, and in fact worse in most cases than just 20 levels in whatever class. Seriously, what he did to Nok-Nok was criminal, and this is far from the only companion he built wrong. And it all stems from what Desiderius said, his inability to see the party as a unit that shores up each other's weaknesses, leading him to compromise each class's specialty in order to marginally cover whatever utility would be ordinarily provided by someone else. And also, I'd say, in his all-so-common among nerds desire to appear smarter than the rest, the only visionary good enough to see the splashes and hidden synergies that all the others missed.
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