Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Agesilaus]

I decided to give this game another shot, and I now like it. I went with a flamewarden ranger and have been picking up all the shield bash-related feats.

The prologue sucks, Chapter 1 is a drag, but once you get your own kingdom it starts to be genuinely fun. I killed the troll king and the kobold wizard, so now I'm just hanging out and waiting for chapter 3.

How long is the game? I will probably revisit it again for another playthrough as an evil character, but at the same time I don't know if I want to sink 100+ hours into it on another playthrough.

 

[thesecret1]

How long is the game?

you're in late early game

 

[Pink Eye]

AHHHHHHH! SAVE ME MONK MAN! AHHHHHHHHH!

 

[Pink Eye]

AHHHH!

 

[Pink Eye]

 

[Yosharian]

So I found out if you use Mastery together with Pummeling Bully, you get the auto-trip from PB and two attacks of opportunity AND you get the bonus damage on the trip attempt from Mastery.

...I still don't really want to use Mastery. It's just such a boring weapon. I dunno.

And this means you can trip from reach range btw

 

[Desiderius]

Ah well a bit of googling and I discovered that Pummeling Bully works with weapons! So you get a full attack plus a trip plus two attacks of opportunity. I'm not sure why you get two attacks of opportunity. The one where he stands up, OK. Where the other one is coming from, no idea. Seems like it happens when the trip occurs.

Do you have me on ignore, Yosh?

That's what I just said and with pictures. The two AoOs are from Greater Trip, plus Mastery lets you get the damage in on a landed Trip (no Sneaks). Best is probably Ranger 20 so you can do all that with Aspect of Wolf as well, with Improved Quarry Free Action to get an easy +4 to hit.

Pummeling Bully (and Kinetic Blast!) are not supposed to work with weapons, and certainly not non-Monk weapons. Straight up exploit.

 

[Pink Eye]

Thanks, Lady Jamandi! You're the COOLEST!

 

[Desiderius]

just another fuck you to Fighters, it's a wonder anyone bothers to use that class in this game. What a fucking joke. If they'd coded it properly, Fighters would actually be the best at something. Fucking sad.

Fighters are fine - they added all those free feats from alternative Weapon Training in the last DLC. You end up with best BAB, best Saves, and Best feats for melee. Great class for minimizing rest.

Confirmed, Weapon Training not adding to CMB, and that is mighty annoying since CMB is the strength of the class.

Lvl 4 Fighter:

Lvl 5 with Weapon Training:

Lvl 5 with Weapon Training and Agile Manuevers (stacking with Fury's Fall):

Build:

I mean next lvl you get Greater Trip and go off with the help of A Bard Song and some other buffs, but super annoying that a major strength of the class does nothing.

 

[Pink Eye]

Evidence that Jaethal is best girl in the whole entire game!

 

[Yosharian]

I wonder if Arcane Accuracy boosts the Trip attack roll. Wish I'd thought to test it before I left for work today.

 

[Pink Eye]

 

[Desiderius]

I wonder if Arcane Accuracy boosts the Trip attack roll. Wish I'd thought to test it before I left for work today.

I can test that for you too if you'd take me off ignore. 99% sure it does since True Strike does and they're both insight.

 

[Pink Eye]

Does anyone else think Honest Guy is a reference to Patches from Dark Souls?

 

[Yosharian]

I'm guessing that Power Attack, Combat Expertise, Fighting Defensively, and so on, impact on the 'attack roll' part of the Trip action.

 

[Yosharian]

The Overthrow Heavy Flail states that it Trips on the first successful hit it lands. Here's some ultra cheese: I wonder if we can somehow get the Trip action proccing off something like Great Cleave, so that we can trip every single enemy that's around us. Now that would be amazing.

 

[LannTheStupid]

Thanks, Lady Jamandi! You're the COOLEST!

This is a good pretext to backstab her later. And to execute this ridiculous half-blood who is not Regongar.

 

[Pink Eye]

Thanks, Lady Jamandi! You're the COOLEST!

This is a good pretext to backstab her later. And to execute this ridiculous half-blood who is not Regongar.

What! No! Lady Jamandi is good strong ally! Not backstab ally! No!

 

[Nano]

Do you have me on ignore, Yosh?

Yes, he does. He's really sensitive, you just have to say one wrong thing to get him upset and have you added to his list.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Do you have me on ignore, Yosh?

Yes, he does. He's really sensitive, you just have to say one wrong thing to get him upset and have you added to his list.

Huh, even I'm in his cry bin.
I guess I left a bigger impression on him than vice versa.

 

[Pink Eye]

I remember there was talk that if you had divine at rank 40, you could build teleporters... Well, I have reached that rank, but I can not build any teleporters.

 

[Haplo]

The Overthrow Heavy Flail states that it Trips on the first successful hit it lands. Here's some ultra cheese: I wonder if we can somehow get the Trip action proccing off something like Great Cleave, so that we can trip every single enemy that's around us. Now that would be amazing.

That IS interesting.
Of course, A Kineticist can already do that with Bowling and Blade Whirlwind.... much, much earlier.
He doesn't really excel at CMB, though.

 

[Haplo]

I remember there was talk that if you had divine at rank 40, you could build teleporters... Well, I have reached that rank, but I can not build any teleporters.

Sorry Pinkie, you need Arcane 40...

 

[Haplo]

I wonder if Arcane Accuracy boosts the Trip attack roll. Wish I'd thought to test it before I left for work today.

Normally all buffs not related to weapon work...

 

[Pink Eye]

I remember there was talk that if you had divine at rank 40, you could build teleporters... Well, I have reached that rank, but I can not build any teleporters.

Sorry Pinkie, you need Arcane 40...

Lol I am a fooking idiot...