Pathfinder Pathfinder: Kingmaker - Enhanced Plus Edition - now with turn-based combat

[Desiderius]

This is the Investigator. Alchemist Spells. Best skill money there is (this Archetype gets INT to Trickery/Perception/UMD so can focus exclusively on STR/INT. Studied Combat gives +1/+1 every other level. You can spike Sneaks/2 per level once on a Studied mob but then you lose all bonuses. Had intended to fight Wild Shaped via spells but CotW two-weapon fighting is too good. One Feat and your offhand gets iteratives just like main hand.

Enough AC and extra AB from Mutagen and Studied Combat to act as an assassin without necessarily needing flanking.

Investigator talents give you Sicken no save hitting a Studied target, free d6 (later d8, 2d8 at 20) added to skill checks (later attacks and saves), various other roguish things.

 

[M. AQVILA]

Is the beneath the stolen lands dlc worth it?

 

[Desiderius]

I hate it but it's good for testing stuff because you level up fast. Other people enjoy it on its own terms. Good combat and itemization if that's your thing.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

I hate it

Hate is a strong word. What makes you say that?

 

[Desiderius]

I don't know why more people, especially the caster MCs, don't put Octavia in melee. She's set up perfectly to be a Rogue murderlator, and in CotW that Point Blank isn't even a waste since it's a prereq for the very useful Coordinated Shot to help your ranged toons make up for the Soft Cover penalty.

Spoiler

 

[Desiderius]

I hate it

Hate is a strong word. What makes you say that?

Half-assed, just like the whole DLC. Still worth it but really noticeably shittier than areas like Old Sycamore and the like.

 

[Efe]

arent items completely random? how is it good itemization.
it is enjoyable as a dungeon crawl but nothing amazing.
Still, what are the alternatives to it?

 

[Fronder]

Can someone explain to me what "Other: +6" could mean?

 

[Desiderius]

Random among all the items from the whole game and DLCs so you see stuff you’ve never seen before and some of it is available at the vendor which lets you design companion builds around what’s available.

You can check their inventory and reload easily before adding companions.

In game all items are set and there are several game changing ones.

 

[Xamenos]

I liked the dungeon it added in the main campaign, it had fun boss fights and the final one was the best in the game imho. Never bothered with the roguelike mode.

 

[Desiderius]

Boggard areas are so unfinished they’re an insult to the original designers.

 

[Xamenos]

Boggard areas are so unfinished they’re an insult to the original designers.

I don't even remember what you're talking about.

 

[Desiderius]

Case in point. You damn sure remember Old Sycamore and Lake Silvermere.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

Case in point. You damn sure remember Old Sycamore and Lake Silvermere.

The only Boggaard area I can think of is the Tranquil River Bend. Well, memorable is a strong word but that dungeon leaves an impression because you get there at Chapter 1 but the dungeon is full of (for a level 4 party) strong mobs that can one-shot you I think? But besides that, it really isn't anything special especially if you get there later in the game.

 

[Ataraxia]

Case in point. You damn sure remember Old Sycamore and Lake Silvermere.

The only Boggaard area I can think of is the Tranquil River Bend. Well, memorable is a strong word but that dungeon leaves an impression because you get there at Chapter 1 but the dungeon is full of (for a level 4 party) strong mobs that can one-shot you I think? But besides that, it really isn't anything special especially if you get there later in the game.

Boggard Hunting Grounds (it's near Thorn Ford) is also added in the enhanced edition of the game... I think.

 

[Desiderius]

There are no Perception checks on the entire map (no skill checks of any kind!!), no significant drops, no named mobs, no quests! My God, didn’t you miss any of that?

The one significant item you can get by zoning in, looting, and zoning out. Total joke.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

There are no Perception checks on the entire map (no skill checks of any kind!!), no significant drops, no named mobs, no quests! My God, didn’t you miss any of that?

The one significant item you can get by zoning in, looting, and zoning out. Total joke.

Tbf... that applies to a lot of areas in Kingmaker right?

Like yeah Sycamore, Witch Hut, Silverstep Lake are memorable because of the quest and encounter there. But on the other hand there are a lot of those "zoom in zoom out" without much of anything in the whole game.

 

[Desiderius]

No, there are one fight areas. Even those usually have a Perception check and a couple hidden items and a story behind them.

That area has ten(!) fights and nothing else.

 

[Desiderius]

Come back LannTheStupid



Let bygones be bygones.

 

[LannTheStupid]

i also made pancakes today but nobody gave me any money

Same shit here, eh...

Desiderius no comment. This belongs to a different thread; if you start it and let me know I could join and discuss.

 

[Desiderius]

No, I was hoping you'd return to this one. I don't care about that one.

 

[The_Mask]

This belongs to a different thread [...].

They made "Lann pancakes", which would, in theory, should be posted in the WotR thread. So you're technically right. But in my defense I was posting in this one, and my knee jerk reflex caught the better of me. You can check. It's 3mins between posts.

 

[Xamenos]

Get a room, you three.

 

[Fronder]

Can someone explain to me what "Other: +6" could mean?

I've meant this, sorry.

 

[Yosharian]

Post your build and equipped items