Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous - Game of the Year Edition

[ga♥]

I am 100% sure she remained immune to crits even without ice body, one year ago... but I assume they keep nerfing the game.
Can you try to enable "Additional enemy behaviors: On" in the difficulty and see if you can still crit?
Also do sneaks work now?

EDIT: Also don't use bane of spirit.

 

[Average Manatee]

This is straight unfair so additional enemy behaviors is on.

One thing I do notice is that her character sheet still says she's immune to critical hits. If that's what you were going by then maybe its bugged and not properly delisting immunities once she loses them?

Not sure on sneaks, don't have a character with them atm.

 

[Delterius]

I'm positive I've critted Areelu as well, and I played a ray crit character.

 

[Desiderius]

Echolocation was recently fixed to no longer make the character blind? Not sure if that was vanilla patchnotes or TTT.

 

[ga♥]

Bane of spirit makes you sneak/crit even ghosts, maybe that's how you crit Areelu.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

I'm 100% sure that outflank procs on her since I've done it constantly. I'm fairly certain that crit immunity would prevent outflank from triggering (fortification does, and she does have 75% fortification, so that will hurt your crit rate a lot). If it does prevent the crit damage but not the crit itself then it doesn't really matter, you want the outflank procs more than the crit damage anyway. When I get a crit that causes 5 pages of AoOs that do 2k damage I don't bother scrolling up to see what the initial hit did.

EDIT:

Yeah I crit her just fine?

Did you just do this now? I tried just now and I can't get crits, despite having the same BAB as you.

 

[Average Manatee]

Did you just do this now? I tried just now and I can't get crits, despite having the same BAB as you.

According to above post it's bane of spirits ring. Although anything ghost-touched should also work I think? Yes I did this just now.

Honestly bane of spirits is so stupidly OP, how has that not been nerfed. Why yes I would like my whole party to pierce every kind of resistance with every kind of damage they could deal as a free action, yes that's actually quite a nice ability to have, thank you owlcat.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

Did you just do this now? I tried just now and I can't get crits, despite having the same BAB as you.

According to above post it's bane of spirits ring. Although anything ghost-touched should also work I think? Yes I did this just now.

Honestly bane of spirits is so stupidly OP, how has that not been nerfed. Why yes I would like my whole party to pierce every kind of resistance with every kind of damage they could deal as a free action, yes that's actually quite a nice ability to have, thank you owlcat.

Well, I don't have it, so fuck me. Finnean is ghost touched, right? If so, merely being ghost touched doesn't seem to work, as I was using him, and no crits.

 

[Haplo]

Did you just do this now? I tried just now and I can't get crits, despite having the same BAB as you.

According to above post it's bane of spirits ring. Although anything ghost-touched should also work I think? Yes I did this just now.

Honestly bane of spirits is so stupidly OP, how has that not been nerfed. Why yes I would like my whole party to pierce every kind of resistance with every kind of damage they could deal as a free action, yes that's actually quite a nice ability to have, thank you owlcat.

Well, I don't have it, so fuck me. Finnean is ghost touched, right? If so, merely being ghost touched doesn't seem to work, as I was using him, and no crits.

Act 6 Finnean should no longer have Ghost Touch.

 

[Haplo]

Echolocation was recently fixed to no longer make the character blind? Not sure if that was vanilla patchnotes or TTT.

Vanilla patchnotes.

 

[Desiderius]

I remember there being a workaround people were talking about where you blind yourself then use Blindfight/Echolocation to get around Areelu's inherent 50% miss chance. I think Yosharian identified it. Maybe that's what it relates to. In any event TTT must have fixed it because Echo never blinded my toons.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Beat scorcher of souls. I don't like it. I actually think its harder and more unfair than Playful Darkness, because the game outright lies to you what Fire Shield does and forces you to use ranged attacks on it because if you melee it you pretty much die. Playful Darkness is a lot more straightforward in comparison.
Oh and then there's the AoE attack spam but fire protection + resist mitigates most of it so its fine.

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

Did you just do this now? I tried just now and I can't get crits, despite having the same BAB as you.

According to above post it's bane of spirits ring. Although anything ghost-touched should also work I think? Yes I did this just now.

Honestly bane of spirits is so stupidly OP, how has that not been nerfed. Why yes I would like my whole party to pierce every kind of resistance with every kind of damage they could deal as a free action, yes that's actually quite a nice ability to have, thank you owlcat.

Well, I don't have it, so fuck me. Finnean is ghost touched, right? If so, merely being ghost touched doesn't seem to work, as I was using him, and no crits.

Act 6 Finnean should no longer have Ghost Touch.

Isn't that a downgrade? Does he get something in return?

 

[Desiderius]

if you melee it you pretty much die

She doesn't look dead.

 

[Desiderius]

But yeah ranged is good idea:

 

[CthuluIsSpy]

How did Seelah not take damage from that? It dealt 86, no?

 

[Desiderius]

Temporary HP are your friend, or at least your tank's.

 

[Average Manatee]

What's Scorcher of Souls? I don't recall that enemy.

 

[Desiderius]

Somewhat hidden optional boss after beating Baph. Have to Dimension Door to get to it.

 

[Correct_Carlo]

Did you just do this now? I tried just now and I can't get crits, despite having the same BAB as you.

According to above post it's bane of spirits ring. Although anything ghost-touched should also work I think? Yes I did this just now.

Honestly bane of spirits is so stupidly OP, how has that not been nerfed. Why yes I would like my whole party to pierce every kind of resistance with every kind of damage they could deal as a free action, yes that's actually quite a nice ability to have, thank you owlcat.

Well, I don't have it, so fuck me. Finnean is ghost touched, right? If so, merely being ghost touched doesn't seem to work, as I was using him, and no crits.

Act 6 Finnean should no longer have Ghost Touch.

Isn't that a downgrade? Does he get something in return?

I think it gets something called animal (beast?) bane.

 

[Haplo]

Did you just do this now? I tried just now and I can't get crits, despite having the same BAB as you.

According to above post it's bane of spirits ring. Although anything ghost-touched should also work I think? Yes I did this just now.

Honestly bane of spirits is so stupidly OP, how has that not been nerfed. Why yes I would like my whole party to pierce every kind of resistance with every kind of damage they could deal as a free action, yes that's actually quite a nice ability to have, thank you owlcat.

Well, I don't have it, so fuck me. Finnean is ghost touched, right? If so, merely being ghost touched doesn't seem to work, as I was using him, and no crits.

Act 6 Finnean should no longer have Ghost Touch.

Isn't that a downgrade? Does he get something in return?

Well yes, Brilliant Energy. Which is pretty fantastic - except against Undead and Constructs. And other uncorporeal enemies, I guess.

 

[Yosharian]

Brilliant Energy can be pretty powerful but it's a bit annoying to have permanently on your weapon sometimes

 

[Desiderius]

Brilliant Energy can be pretty powerful but it's a bit annoying to have permanently on your weapon sometimes

That's why you have a back-up in the other slot.

It is *way* better in Wrath than it was in P:K, especially on the hardest fights.



-16 here is Brilliant Energy



-9 here



-13

Getting Brilliant Energy here from Divine Weapon Bond instead of Mount.

 

[IHaveHugeNick]

With Trickster you can cheese by repeating add/remove Finnean from inventory until you roll some nice extra modifiers.

 

[MartinK]

Is this game enjoyable for somebody who doesn’t think highly (to put it mildly) of Pathfinder and D20 system variants in general? Is there fun ot be had in figuring out how to make the most broken builds possible at least, the one thing D20 is good at?