Pathfinder Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous Pre-DLC Thread [GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Grauken]

But the game is easy on core. It just forces you to engage with an unnecessary amount of systems for too large a percentage of the fights.

No, it doesn't.

Git gud.

Currently blowing thru Drezen on long buffs.

There you go Riddler, enjoy the riveting discussions when you let blind fanboys run amok.

I don't really get Owlcat, they looked at Deadfire's boat combat and thought, we want something like that, in every game, only more tedious and annoying.

 

[Parabalus]

Desiderius is blowing out of his ass anyways as even with greater enduring spells to put most buffs at 24 hours they will still be canceled the moment you move to another location in the world map.

They will last through travel if it's close enough, it happens.

And through rest, which is an even bigger deal.

 

[Fedora Master]

Fight a big ass spider demon - Get a Ring of Protection +1, 2 Lesser Healing Potions and some vendor junk
DC 30 skill check - 36 xp!

Seriously guys.

 

[Zboj Lamignat]

How do you ship a game featuring Mounted Comabt with the Mounted Combat feats doing nothing?

This is Wiz7 level trolling.

Wait, feats? So it's not only the mounted combat feat being borked, but all the following ones as well? wtf

 

[Shadenuat]

what do witches and oracles do that other casters cant

oracle is cleric sorcerer with a tweest
witches are their own thing with unique effect mechanics you stack and continue through rounds, which can't be easily found elsewhere

Fight a big ass spider demon - Get a Ring of Protection +1, 2 Lesser Healing Potions and some vendor junk
DC 30 skill check - 36 xp!

Seriously guys.

there is a reason desuman constantly tries to force you to invest into passing skill checks.
get all of them goodies, thingies and shinies

 

[dacencora]

Man, taking Slumber for Camellia makes many fights ez pz. Unlimited sleep + greater cleave = dismembered bodies everywhere.

 

[Maculo]

Is it me or did Owlcat write each companion introduction to be the most extreme, distilled version of the character? Lann and Seelah wouldn't shut up, Ember was cringey, and Nenio....I had to skip through the dialogue just to get through it.

A few hours in, Lann and Seelah seem to have moderated some; maybe Nenio and Ember will as well? If not, these characters are giving me a very good reason to join the demons/devils. There are few games where I find the "good guys" so insufferable that I veer into an evil playthrough (Fallout 3).

 

[Haplo]

Anybody tinkered with Sohei ? 2 flurry with fauchard (at 11, +1 flurry with ki pool) sounds super juicy. I am trying to find ways to get a better mount than horse but none of them feels great (probably sacred huntsmaster, cockatrice beast rider or hunter) as to get the best out of these dips one need to delay sohei progression. Or maybe there's a way to scale the horse better down the line in a mythic path ? Also Pounce would be sick on this for charge into triple flurry fauchard goodness, but have to pick kitsune for it and they have such weird stat spread (+they look stupido)

Sohei is a really cool class. And yeah, Kitsune seems best for charge (there's also Mad Dog barb with Greater Animal Totem, but minimum 10 levels is costly). Pummeling Charge does not work with weapons, sadly. Pumelling Bully should. Style Strikes don't.
Too bad Charging is currently non-functional.

As for getting a different mount from other classes, please be careful. Either a bug or feature, but I couldn't pick Sohei with a Smilodon AC. Needed a horse.

 

[Desiderius]

Could you please advise on build(s) for light weapons dual-wielding that somehow implement non-armor defense as well? Sadly, there's no Swashbuckler - at least until Holic92 would get insanely creative again I guess.

Monk1/slayer19 -} trickster
Take tiefling with bite attack, low Cha, max Dex, some Wis. TWF feats through Slayer talents. Take Weapon finesse and feat for +1d6 SA.

Don't need Mahnk splash if not soloing.

- AC +DMG: skip monk. No Wis max Str, some Dex . No Weapon finesse.
P.S. Take Spawn Slayer.

Only take Spawn if you're using CMs.

 

[Nevermore]

Now thats a good companion

She sound like Gollum after being threatened.

 

[Zeriel]

Fight a big ass spider demon - Get a Ring of Protection +1, 2 Lesser Healing Potions and some vendor junk
DC 30 skill check - 36 xp!

Seriously guys.

I miss 2E experience numbers. Now those were monocled days.

 

[Desiderius]

Anybody tinkered with Sohei ? 2 flurry with fauchard (at 11, +1 flurry with ki pool) sounds super juicy. I am trying to find ways to get a better mount than horse but none of them feels great (probably sacred huntsmaster, cockatrice beast rider or hunter) as to get the best out of these dips one need to delay sohei progression. Or maybe there's a way to scale the horse better down the line in a mythic path ? Also Pounce would be sick on this for charge into triple flurry fauchard goodness, but have to pick kitsune for it and they have such weird stat spread (+they look stupido)

Sohei is a really cool class. And yeah, Kitsune seems best for charge (there's also Mad Dog barb with Greater Animal Totem, but minimum 10 levels is costly). Pummeling Charge does not work with weapons, sadly. Pumelling Bully should. Style Strikes on the other hand don't.
Too bad Charging is currently non-functional.

As for getting a different mount from other classes, please be careful. Either a bug or feature, but I couldn't pick Sohei with a Smilodon AC. Needed a horse.

Sohei is Horse only. Rivals Sword Saint for master of Initiative. Vulpine Pounce currently not working with Cav Charge abilities. By does work otherwise.

 

[Robber Baron]

As a matter of fact, I was bitching about Camellia's portrait on 4chan since the day it was leaked

Spoiler

 

[Grauken]

As a matter of fact, I was bitching about Camellia's portrait on 4chan since the day it was leaked

Spoiler

Is that a "Find the 5 differences" thing?

 

[Alphard]

I don't want to enable decline and isometric fun for me lasts only ten hours or so before uninstalling so, need a fast answer:
is this gaem worth fishing in a river or not?

 

[Reinhardt]

Is there a way to get to closed part at the top ot the mountain? Can't find it...

 

[gurugeorge]

It's clear that to what some seems like a weakness - the redundancy and variety of classes and sub-classes - is a strength to others. It's like this: there are only a few Pathfindery neat tricks or schticks that you can do, but you can do them in lots of slightly different ways with different flavourings.

Is that a strength or a weakness? It seems to me that it depends on whether you lean towards immersionfaggery or buildfaggery. If the latter, then the redundancy is going to slightly annoy you (it feels like unnecessary and mind-fogging complexity); if the former, then it's just what the doctor ordered in terms of tailoring your rp or rp-lite character to some theme you've dreamt up.

But in that case, one wonders whether a totally à la carte menu wouldn't be better. I'm reminded of a system like City of Heroes, where to some extent the abilities/powers were generic but you could pick any combination you fancied (within limits), and you could "slot" those powers quite variably (e.g. range or accuracy, etc.), and then give the whole thing any sort of rp coat of paint you fancied and spend an hour in the costume creation.

But then of course if you did that it wouldn't be Pathfinder. There's some value in just being presented with a lore-rich variety of class and sub-class packages (and then of course multi-classing is always an option too, but that tends to work more with buildfaggery where you'r ultra-optimizing).

 

[Robber Baron]

Is that a "Find the 5 differences" thing?

Only if the stock portrait of Camellia does not meet your exquisite tastes

 

[Parabalus]

Will you need several armies later on, in C5?

During Beta just one lvl 20 general was optimal.

 

[Desiderius]

Is it me or did Owlcat write each companion introduction to be the most extreme, distilled version of the character? Lann and Seelah wouldn't shut up, Ember was cringey, and Nenio....I had to skip through the dialogue just to get through it.

A few hours in, Lann and Seelah seem to have moderated some; maybe Nenio and Ember will as well? If not, these characters are giving me a very good reason to join the demons/devils. There are few games where I find the "good guys" so insufferable that I veer into an evil playthrough (Fallout 3).

You're going to have to click thru a lot in either case. Seelah's just a laidback phat black dude and Lann's cool (he's LN in any case). Ember's whatever. Sos doesn't bring up the phagottry himself so as long as you bring Regill along to beat him into shape it works out and Sos's Domain abilities as Swift Actions are sick.

 

[Mortmal]

But the game is easy on core. It just forces you to engage with an unnecessary amount of systems for too large a percentage of the fights.

No, it doesn't.

Git gud.

Currently blowing thru Drezen on long buffs.

There you go Riddler, enjoy the riveting discussions when you let blind fanboys run amok.

I don't really get Owlcat, they looked at Deadfire's boat combat and thought, we want something like that, in every game, only more tedious and annoying.

The whole game is like this, the siege of drezen alllow you to rest at least 3 time in guarded spots when your ressources arent even exhausted against easy fights, you roll over everything, then you have stuff like blackwater . They lock you in till the end , no rest possible, corruption gets too high quickly, high cr foes Hp bloated with ton of immunities and regen only canceled by schock damage or adamantine (you only have one ) . You can only finish it if you know it before hand , stock scrolls , potions and such. Not so easy when the lich path crusade is bugged and force you to spend twice more gold on it to survive.
The crusade mechanics are even more dull for lich , you get llittle stack of useless undeads after each fight and have to micro them and restack .They have no put any thought nor care into it . Then the defense banner gets red for no reason again from time to time , sinking crusade morale.
No doubt the codex will vote this game of the year cause its an easily pleased crowd. Next year maybe...

 

[Tacgnol]

The dwarf slayer is pretty good if you want a pretty grounded companion personality wise. Fits his whole consummate professional shtick.

 

[Ipum]

High Dex. Potions of mage armour, shield of fate, later magical items.
Slayer is a full BAB class with SA, dont need Dex for TWF feats, at will ability for + hit + dmg, autoconfirm critical hits.

Or you know wear armor. There's some great ones. Nakedness is not so stupidly supported this game.

He told its must be unarmoured. Ofc its better with armour.

 

[Reinhardt]

OH, COME ON, BITCH! NOTTO DISU SHITTO AGEN! If only i could abandon you both here...

 

[Desiderius]

He should tell himself something else. If you must stick to memes at least update them.