Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[Delterius]

i like both kingmaker for kingmaking and deadfire for pirate making

 

[Haplo]

Is it really that good? Seeing nothing but negative here; although, I take it with a grain of salt. These faggots said Age of Cuckadence would be good, which was banal-shit boring. I've still not finished PoE, but it's a long ass fucking game. I also keep restarting. Just wondering if it's worth it to play this instead of spending whatever free time I have during the Christmas break on Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Deadfire is damn solid. Not quite as good as Kingmaker, but still, one of the best crpgs to come out in the last 2 decades.

 

[Haplo]

Are there any big dungeons in this game?

Not without DLC.

I have the dlc but really theres no big dungeons in the base game?

They're usually 1-2 maps each.

Lame ass. How big are the dlc dungeons?

I am trying to figure out if its worth it to keep playing this.

Forgotten Sanctum is a damn big and cool dungeon. Breath of Winter is a little more fragmented, but still great.

SSS is different, its basically an arena. Although it does boast some of the best combat challenges in the game. And the Seeker's Fang rapier is great if you're a melee inclined cipher

 

[Diggfinger]

So, I finally finished Deadfire on Path of teh Damned :D:D:D:D:D

Took me 115 hours, almost exactly the same I played PoE 1 in total.
Deadfire definitely a biggergame though, I maxed out at lvl 20 but didnt do any of the DLCs (only Winter one, still miss last boss).

Installed the lvl cap mod (increases to 33\ although max possible is 27(.
Dunno why that wasnt an option in the game, pointless to cap at 20 wth so much content!

Anyway, amazing game!!!!

Is it really that good? Seeing nothing but negative here; although, I take it with a grain of salt. These faggots said Age of Cuckadence would be good, which was banal-shit boring. I've still not finished PoE, but it's a long ass fucking game. I also keep restarting. Just wondering if it's worth it to play this instead of spending whatever free time I have during the Christmas break on Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Deadfire is awesome for sure, cant go wrong with that one! Ppl here are just talking shit cuz they're bored.

Dunno about Kingmaker though, havent played it.

I'm noticing some microstutters in the game, when I'm in a town. Anyone knows what could cause this? I'm just walking around in the town, and every 8-10 seconds, there is sudden stutter, then it goes back to normal. I'm using an SSD.

I had the same thing! Mostly in Nekataka... seems less of an issue now, patch maybe?

 

[Mexi]

So, I finally finished Deadfire on Path of teh Damned :D:D:D:D:D

Took me 115 hours, almost exactly the same I played PoE 1 in total.
Deadfire definitely a biggergame though, I maxed out at lvl 20 but didnt do any of the DLCs (only Winter one, still miss last boss).

Installed the lvl cap mod (increases to 33\ although max possible is 27(.
Dunno why that wasnt an option in the game, pointless to cap at 20 wth so much content!

Anyway, amazing game!!!!

Is it really that good? Seeing nothing but negative here; although, I take it with a grain of salt. These faggots said Age of Cuckadence would be good, which was banal-shit boring. I've still not finished PoE, but it's a long ass fucking game. I also keep restarting. Just wondering if it's worth it to play this instead of spending whatever free time I have during the Christmas break on Pathfinder: Kingmaker.

Deadfire is awesome for sure, cant go wrong with that one! Ppl here are just talking shit cuz they're bored.

Dunno about Kingmaker though, havent played it.

I'm noticing some microstutters in the game, when I'm in a town. Anyone knows what could cause this? I'm just walking around in the town, and every 8-10 seconds, there is sudden stutter, then it goes back to normal. I'm using an SSD.

I had the same thing! Mostly in Nekataka... seems less of an issue now, patch maybe?

Sounds good then, everyone who replied. I'm probably still going to finish Kingmaker first because that game was ridiculously good. PoE was so-so, but the DLC was absolutely amazing. I honestly think White March is way, way better than Kingmaker. I just wish the main campaign was as good.

Let me ask this. Is Deadfire as good or better than White March?

 

[J_C]

I'm noticing some microstutters in the game, when I'm in a town. Anyone knows what could cause this? I'm just walking around in the town, and every 8-10 seconds, there is sudden stutter, then it goes back to normal. I'm using an SSD.

I had the same thing! Mostly in Nekataka... seems less of an issue now, patch maybe?

I've installed the game through GOG Galaxy, so I assume it is the latest patched version. Not a gamebreaker bug, but can be a bit annoying.

 

[Lawntoilet]

Let me ask this. Is Deadfire as good or better than White March?

I didn't think so, no.

 

[Lacrymas]

People have been complaining about microstutters since forever, especially on NVidia cards. pomenitul can tell you all about that.

 

[Flying Dutchman]

Kingmaker is a far better game then either POE1/2.

Is Kingmaker still buggy as shit? I was avoiding it because it sounded like a mess at launch.

 

[Sergiu64]

I didn't have microstutters - but the area loading is too slow. Especially considering going to every house causes you to reload city when you come out.

 

[Efe]

disabling auto saves and/orreducing amount of manual and auto saves helps a lot

 

[pomenitul]

People have been complaining about microstutters since forever, especially on NVidia cards. pomenitul can tell you all about that.

It's been more than two years now, and I have yet to come across a proper fix. Disabling the smart camera makes it a mite less noticeable, but on my rig the microstutter only rears its ugly head every 45s or so, which is bearable in the context of a game that requires no small amount of pausing. At 10s or less I'd have given up on it altogether.

 

[Yosharian]

Kingmaker is a far better game then either POE1/2.

Is Kingmaker still buggy as shit? I was avoiding it because it sounded like a mess at launch.

Kingmaker might still have the occasional bug but at least it runs at more than 45 FPS on a 3080

 

[Haplo]

Let me ask this. Is Deadfire as good or better than White March?

Well, the answer is unfortunately no.

Still, some game aspects keep high quality. Itemization is among the best in computer games. Encounter design is significantly better then vanilla PoE (WM is still better though).

 

[Lacrymas]

People have been complaining about microstutters since forever, especially on NVidia cards. pomenitul can tell you all about that.

It's been more than two years now, and I have yet to come across a proper fix. Disabling the smart camera makes it a mite less noticeable, but on my rig the microstutter only rears its ugly head every 45s or so, which is bearable in the context of a game that requires no small amount of pausing. At 10s or less I'd have given up on it altogether.

I'd be surprised if there's a fix at all. It's probably Unity being a piece of shit that needed optimizations before they had started working on the game, but Obs don't have good programmers, so ASCII shrug face.

 

[Efe]

dont blame the tool.not all unity games have bad performance

 

[Delterius]

all unity rpgs kinda suck in terms of performance tho

 

[Lacrymas]

dont blame the tool.not all unity games have bad performance

I'm not saying Unity can't be optimized for good performance, quite the contrary, but it needs optimizations that most devs aren't willing to do. Deadfire's performance got worse and worse as the DLCs came out, so yeah.

 

[BarbequeMasta]

i like both kingmaker for kingmaking and deadfire for pirate making

No, Deadfire stands for dead-ing the franchise in a dumpster fire.

 

[adddeed]

Let me ask this. Is Deadfire as good or better than White March?

Imagine Deadfire: Director's Cut, fixed performance and removed loading screens.

The loading screens of PoE1/2 and Tyranny almost made me quit playing.
They''re now installed on a SSD drive and it improves loading dramatically.
Ill never understand why these games have such bad loading between areas and the only explanation is either programmers suck or unity engine sucks.

 

[Lacrymas]

Kind of both. Unity needs custom optimization for each game individually and that needs either willingness or good programmers.

 

[thesheeep]

Kind of both. Unity needs custom optimization for each game individually and that needs either willingness or good programmers.

Most programmers simply don't know better.

At least game programmers.
To be a game programmer, you don't even need to know stuff like memory optimizations, cache missing, memory pools, loading order, threading optimization, clean coding, etc..
You just need to be able to plug in some Unity marketplace module to do something for you, cobble the rest together and your game will end up working. And you'll still know better than those hiring you, so it's not like they could tell you did a bad job.
In other words, most game programmers nowadays are what coders back in the day would have called "scripters" with maybe some additional knowledge.

Most don't even learn C++ or comparable languages anymore (which would force them to learn some of those techniques). Not because they'd necessarily be too dumb or lazy for that - no, simply because there is no immediate need for that knowledge.
Add to that the notoriously short deadlines on games and you very likely might end up not having time to do optimizations even if you really wanted to - try explaining to a suit why it is a good idea if the game literally works without doing it.

Those who would know better are then usually hired not to program games, but to program the tools that games are programmed in.
You can bet your ass the best coders in the games industry work for Unity, Epic, etc. and they are not working on games themselves.

I keep saying this, but it's true:
I'm really damn lucky I learned game development & programming before Unity was a thing. Might never have learned C/C++ otherwise.

 

[Desiderius]

I was wrong.

Current version of Deadfire is great. Stalker/Unbroken MC doing work.

 

[Haplo]

Glad you've seen the light, Desiderius.

 

[Yosharian]

Just wait til you meet Eothas!