Eternity Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire + DLC Thread - now with turn-based combat!

[the mole]

I enjoy selling weapons worth 260,000 gold pieces to the local fur vendor on an iceberg in the middle of the ocean

 

[Goldschmidt]

Review of Mortismal Gaming:

 

[gurugeorge]

Review of Mortismal Gaming:

Oh wow, I had no idea that the game has a complex AI configuration thing. I played it tb so I guess it wasn't activated for that? Or I was just dumb and didn't notice. At any rate, a good reason to play this again for me, as I love that sort of stuff.

 

[Alienman]

I missed it too somehow and I played it when TB was not a thing yet.

 

[Seusin]

The plot had too much about woke pirates and noble savages and muh fantasy politics. The bits strictly about the gods were the least bad.

Should've done a lot of pruning or did much better at making the le fantasy politics relate with the godly parts.

 

[the mole]

The plot had too much about woke pirates and noble savages and muh fantasy politics. The bits strictly about the gods were the least bad.

Should've done a lot of pruning or did much better at making the le fantasy politics relate with the godly parts.

opinions

it's obvious to see why the valians want slaves and that's bad engwith 2.0

it's obvious to see why the huana is a broken tribalistic religiously fanatic society that won't even plant seeds and that's bad

it's obvious to see that the rauatai are jingoistic imperialists and why that's bad

it's obvious to see that the principi can be hypocritical honor among thieves and why that's not really stable, and bad for the deadfire

the game doesn't favor one faction over the others

I think it comes down to personal opinion but I personally prefer less government intervention so the principi lined up with my views

 

[Desiderius]

The plot had too much about woke pirates and noble savages and muh fantasy politics. The bits strictly about the gods were the least bad.

Should've done a lot of pruning or did much better at making the le fantasy politics relate with the godly parts.

opinions

it's obvious to see why the valians want slaves and that's bad engwith 2.0

it's obvious to see why the huana is a broken tribalistic religiously fanatic society that won't even plant seeds and that's bad

it's obvious to see that the rauatai are jingoistic imperialists and why that's bad

it's obvious to see that the principi can be hypocritical honor among thieves and why that's not really stable, and bad for the deadfire

the game doesn't favor one faction over the others

I think it comes down to personal opinion but I personally prefer less government intervention so the principi lined up with my views

Uh, obvious is bad tho.

 

[the mole]

The plot had too much about woke pirates and noble savages and muh fantasy politics. The bits strictly about the gods were the least bad.

Should've done a lot of pruning or did much better at making the le fantasy politics relate with the godly parts.

opinions

it's obvious to see why the valians want slaves and that's bad engwith 2.0

it's obvious to see why the huana is a broken tribalistic religiously fanatic society that won't even plant seeds and that's bad

it's obvious to see that the rauatai are jingoistic imperialists and why that's bad

it's obvious to see that the principi can be hypocritical honor among thieves and why that's not really stable, and bad for the deadfire

the game doesn't favor one faction over the others

I think it comes down to personal opinion but I personally prefer less government intervention so the principi lined up with my views

Uh, obvious is bad tho.

what

that wasn't a coherent sentence

 

[Desiderius]

Trivial games are bad games.

 

[the mole]

Trivial games are bad games.

opinion

what part is trivial

I think it's far more trivial to just have good and bad like every other idiotic game has

like oh demons vs angels, retard tier shit, divinity, pathfinder

it's the opposite of trivial actions have consequences good and bad, you aren't fighting the ultimate evil though so people that are dumb have a hard time understanding it

 

[Seusin]

The plot had too much about woke pirates and noble savages and muh fantasy politics. The bits strictly about the gods were the least bad.

Should've done a lot of pruning or did much better at making the le fantasy politics relate with the godly parts.

it's obvious to see that the principi can be hypocritical honor among thieves and why that's not really stable, and bad for the deadfire

the game doesn't favor one faction over the others

I think it comes down to personal opinion but I personally prefer less government intervention so the principi lined up with my views

Do you unironically blame Democrats/Unions/The Government for the current situation with Black America?

Also lol at the piratey faction having anti-slavery shit. Sounds like the devs read too much Tumblr and reddit and Ubisoft history.

 

[the mole]

The plot had too much about woke pirates and noble savages and muh fantasy politics. The bits strictly about the gods were the least bad.

Should've done a lot of pruning or did much better at making the le fantasy politics relate with the godly parts.

it's obvious to see that the principi can be hypocritical honor among thieves and why that's not really stable, and bad for the deadfire

the game doesn't favor one faction over the others

I think it comes down to personal opinion but I personally prefer less government intervention so the principi lined up with my views

Do you unironically blame Democrats/Unions/The Government for the current situation with Black America?

why would I, what gave you that impression

obviously if you try to integrate a race of people that have up to 30 points lower average iq than the founders and majority stock of the civilization there will be issues

 

[the mole]

that megaboss with her sigils has whooped my ass like 20 times in a row, I've got resistance to might and dex on my chanter phrases and everyone has captains feast food bonus so I'm only vulnerable to constitution afflictions

cipher ranger main
paladin chanter palle
fighter rogue eder
priest xoti
barbarian orlan dude

I'm going to try to beat nerieisclerlas first

first potd playthrough was pretty smooth I think I'm ready for nereisi clerals but we'll see, I just have go through 1 more realm

 

[Delterius]

woke pirates

portrayed in the two shades of 'maniac psycopath who is also a slave trader' and 'maniac psycopath who draws the line at slavery'

noble savages

so noble their serfs are confined to slumhouses and executions are common

That said the Huana and the VTC are the two factions which are portrayed in a halfway redeemable fashion.

 

[the mole]

The plot had too much about woke pirates and noble savages and muh fantasy politics. The bits strictly about the gods were the least bad.

Should've done a lot of pruning or did much better at making the le fantasy politics relate with the godly parts.

it's obvious to see that the principi can be hypocritical honor among thieves and why that's not really stable, and bad for the deadfire

the game doesn't favor one faction over the others

I think it comes down to personal opinion but I personally prefer less government intervention so the principi lined up with my views

Do you unironically blame Democrats/Unions/The Government for the current situation with Black America?

Also lol at the piratey faction having anti-slavery shit. Sounds like the devs read too much Tumblr and reddit and Ubisoft history.

also to call the principi just pirates is disingenuous it's more an offshoot of the valian republics with its own laws and so on

no one is stopping you from picking a faction that supports slavery

 

[Desiderius]

Trivial games are bad games.

opinion

what part is trivial

I think it's far more trivial to just have good and bad like every other idiotic game has

like oh demons vs angels, retard tier shit, divinity, pathfinder

it's the opposite of trivial actions have consequences good and bad, you aren't fighting the ultimate evil though so people that are dumb have a hard time understanding it

Bad alone is worse than good and bad, yes. Your clown world catechism has rotted your brain.

 

[Haplo]

that megaboss with her sigils has whooped my ass like 20 times in a row, I've got resistance to might and dex on my chanter phrases and everyone has captains feast food bonus so I'm only vulnerable to constitution afflictions

cipher ranger main
paladin chanter palle
fighter rogue eder
priest xoti
barbarian orlan dude

I'm going to try to beat nerieisclerlas first

first potd playthrough was pretty smooth I think I'm ready for nereisi clerals but we'll see, I just have go through 1 more realm

Megabosses are A LOT stronger then any regular bosses (like Nersicylas).
You might want to invest in Spell Reflection potions for that fight. And well, you can retreat to the area entrance, the sigils can't reach you there.

 

[the mole]

Trivial games are bad games.

opinion

what part is trivial

I think it's far more trivial to just have good and bad like every other idiotic game has

like oh demons vs angels, retard tier shit, divinity, pathfinder

it's the opposite of trivial actions have consequences good and bad, you aren't fighting the ultimate evil though so people that are dumb have a hard time understanding it

Bad alone is worse than good and bad, yes. Your clown world catechism has rotted your brain.

good vs evil, angels vs demons

retard tier

nuance is actually good

but most people can't understand that, your actions have consequences

 

[the mole]

that megaboss with her sigils has whooped my ass like 20 times in a row, I've got resistance to might and dex on my chanter phrases and everyone has captains feast food bonus so I'm only vulnerable to constitution afflictions

cipher ranger main
paladin chanter palle
fighter rogue eder
priest xoti
barbarian orlan dude

I'm going to try to beat nerieisclerlas first

first potd playthrough was pretty smooth I think I'm ready for nereisi clerals but we'll see, I just have go through 1 more realm

Megabosses are A LOT stronger then any regular bosses (like Nersicylas).
You might want to invest in Spell Reflection potions for that fight. And well, you can retreat to the area entrance, the sigils can't reach you there.

yea I'm a brainlet spell reflection would probably make it easy, I tried to raise my armor rating vs shock with that chanter buff but didn't really do much

the electricity is what gets me

 

[Desiderius]

Trivial games are bad games.

opinion

what part is trivial

I think it's far more trivial to just have good and bad like every other idiotic game has

like oh demons vs angels, retard tier shit, divinity, pathfinder

it's the opposite of trivial actions have consequences good and bad, you aren't fighting the ultimate evil though so people that are dumb have a hard time understanding it

Bad alone is worse than good and bad, yes. Your clown world catechism has rotted your brain.

good vs evil, angels vs demons

retard tier

nuance is actually good

but most people can't understand that, your actions have consequences

Obvious is the opposite of nuance dumbass. How can an entire generation be so mind-numbingly ignorant yet arrogant at the same time? It’s really an accomplishment to be so unrelentingly off-putting.

 

[the mole]

Trivial games are bad games.

opinion

what part is trivial

I think it's far more trivial to just have good and bad like every other idiotic game has

like oh demons vs angels, retard tier shit, divinity, pathfinder

it's the opposite of trivial actions have consequences good and bad, you aren't fighting the ultimate evil though so people that are dumb have a hard time understanding it

Bad alone is worse than good and bad, yes. Your clown world catechism has rotted your brain.

good vs evil, angels vs demons

retard tier

nuance is actually good

but most people can't understand that, your actions have consequences

Obvious is the opposite of nuance dumbass. How can an entire generation be so mind-numbingly ignorant yet arrogant at the same time? It’s really an accomplishment to be so unrelentingly off-putting.

it obviously wasn't obvious to the retard in this thread earlier who said some factions are basically the good factions

when all factions have some negatives

most people are too stupid to understand nuance and automatically discard something without actually playing the game and finding out about it

he thought the huana were the good faction when I personally believe they are the worst

you're way past your prime

I don't know why you even post in this thread if you are incapable of appreciating this game

go back to whatever bullshit good vs evil shit you like

 

[Desiderius]

You said it was obvious yourself for fuck sake. And of course you’re right - by “good” they meant the retarded wokel version that turned all of y’all evil or “nuanced” braindead nihilists.

I was responding to your own characterization, then finding yourself at risk of having an original thought for the first time in your life you reached for your hurt durr nuance security blanket in a context where it makes no sense.

Soyer is too big of a pussy to risk nuance - that’s why his Twitter follows are 100% progtard and his games fail to hold player interest despite the beautiful setting and reasonably interesting gameplay.

 

[gurugeorge]

Should factions in games be "balanced" (have good and bad sides) or should some factions be unambiguously good and some unambiuevil?

Trivial games are bad games.

opinion

what part is trivial

I think it's far more trivial to just have good and bad like every other idiotic game has

like oh demons vs angels, retard tier shit, divinity, pathfinder

it's the opposite of trivial actions have consequences good and bad, you aren't fighting the ultimate evil though so people that are dumb have a hard time understanding it

Bad alone is worse than good and bad, yes. Your clown world catechism has rotted your brain.

good vs evil, angels vs demons

retard tier

nuance is actually good

but most people can't understand that, your actions have consequences

The idea that everything has to be "nuanced" has itself become as much of a cliche as the old "good vs. evil" at this point.

It's also fake, in that everything is nuanced, sure, but the nuance hardly ever amounts to making something that's good evil, or evil good. It just gives a bit of mitigation, makes more of a rounded composition in the aesthetic sense.

Everything in the world works on a Golden Ratio principle: it's about 5/8 what it is, and about 3/8 "nuanced"

 

[Desiderius]

The important thing is being unpredictable (i. e. non-obvious), which Soyer brand progtardism never is.

People who value nuance as something more than a mere shibboleth that just means “leaving out the good” value it on the basis of the novelty, originality, and yes progressive improvement inherent in it when done right and in good faith.

 

[Butter]

Should factions in games be "balanced" (have good and bad sides) or should some factions be unambiguously good and some unambiuevil?
The idea that everything has to be "nuanced" has itself become as much of a cliche as the old "good vs. evil" at this point.

It's also fake, in that everything is nuanced, sure, but the nuance hardly ever amounts to making something that's good evil, or evil good. It just gives a bit of mitigation, makes more of a rounded composition in the aesthetic sense.

Everything in the world works on a Golden Ratio principle: it's about 5/8 what it is, and about 3/8 "nuanced"

Factions in and of themselves are played out as an RPG trope. "Who do you want to side with?" is usually no more interesting a question than "What colour ending do you want?", as most factions don't differ from each other in any significant gameplay way.