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[Blaine]

I'm sure there will be plenty of white knights to stop you.

There'll be more than plenty. In fact I daresay numerous white knights will evolve into their final form if they happen to have a few women in their squadron. Rarely seen, observe the splendor of the golden knight and his impregnable brayette:

Spoiler

Grunker

 

[Yaar Podshipnik]

I also hope I'll be able to count on the jolly cooperation of Incline Incorporated

 

[Drakron]

Can I ask you a question? Are you gay Blaine?

Serious who gives a fuck, unless you "manly" pectorals are afraid of a not-so-little competition from female mammary glands.

Are you one of those fucktards that complain about female gamers, that question is one that been asked, if there are female avatars or not because if they are then they are and there will be some repercussions for it as there will not those not existing but lets not fucking pretend its such a big issue as ze women are stealing our hobby because some people too fucking ... err ... how can I put ... GAYLORDS! that are felt threaten by women having the *gasp* courage of wanting to play videogames.

What is this shit?

*I* dont give a fuck, if there are female avatars I might use then or not (its not real life, stop projecting) and it ends there but when some people on both side raise a racket over it (and THAT question have merit) I get pissed because it fucking annoys me.

And I read this after watching this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7671-Gamer-Guys

White Knight? a white knight is someone that defends a women by the sole fact if her gender regardless of anything else ... I am not doing that, I am pissed because I sick and tired of the whole Macho Latino that you fucking jocks dragged into *MY* hobby, at least women are mostly pleasant to look at ...

 

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I don't get it. How do you, like, respect women in a game like this? Unless you're going out of your way to actively denigrate them, what can you do other than offering female avatars? What, dialogue choices that conspicuously say "As a woman..."? Rape pirate gangs that go around raping women and you have to put a stop to them? Romances?!

 

[Haba]

There are gamers and then there are "girl gamers".

Guess which of the two demand things that are detrimental to my personal enjoyment of games?

Spoiler

You stupid dumbfuck, it has nothing to do about being male or female, and a lot to do with being a self-entitled waste of gene material

 

[Grunker]

Can I ask you a question? Are you gay Blaine?

Serious who gives a fuck, unless you "manly" pectorals are afraid of a not-so-little competition from female mammary glands.

Are you one of those fucktards that complain about female gamers, that question is one that been asked, if there are female avatars or not because if they are then they are and there will be some repercussions for it as there will not those not existing but lets not fucking pretend its such a big issue as ze women are stealing our hobby because some people too fucking ... err ... how can I put ... GAYLORDS! that are felt threaten by women having the *gasp* courage of wanting to play videogames.

What is this shit?

*I* dont give a fuck, if there are female avatars I might use then or not (its not real life, stop projecting) and it ends there but when some people on both side raise a racket over it (and THAT question have merit) I get pissed because it fucking annoys me.

And I read this after watching this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7671-Gamer-Guys

White Knight? a white knight is someone that defends a women by the sole fact if her gender regardless of anything else ... I am not doing that, I am pissed because I sick and tired of the whole Macho Latino that you fucking jocksdragged into *MY* hobby, at least women are mostly pleasant to look at ...

8/10 would rage again

 

[J_C]

Can I ask you a question? Are you gay Blaine?

Serious who gives a fuck, unless you "manly" pectorals are afraid of a not-so-little competition from female mammary glands.

Are you one of those fucktards that complain about female gamers, that question is one that been asked, if there are female avatars or not because if they are then they are and there will be some repercussions for it as there will not those not existing but lets not fucking pretend its such a big issue as ze women are stealing our hobby because some people too fucking ... err ... how can I put ... GAYLORDS! that are felt threaten by women having the *gasp* courage of wanting to play videogames.

What is this shit?

*I* dont give a fuck, if there are female avatars I might use then or not (its not real life, stop projecting) and it ends there but when some people on both side raise a racket over it (and THAT question have merit) I get pissed because it fucking annoys me.

And I read this after watching this:

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/jimquisition/7671-Gamer-Guys

White Knight? a white knight is someone that defends a women by the sole fact if her gender regardless of anything else ... I am not doing that, I am pissed because I sick and tired of the whole Macho Latino that you fucking jocks dragged into *MY* hobby, at least women are mostly pleasant to look at ...

Macho Latinos didn't drag "your" hobby to anywhere. It is those fucking feminists who are like a cancer in gaming and overall in the world. You can't make a game or a film without those feminist scum finding something they can complain and moan about. And developers have to comfort them with their game design or else the game is sexist and all the men playing them are pigs.

 

[Drakron]

8/10 would rage again

I actually checked the tread, most people had about the same response I would give as is there are female models (apparently you start the character generation by picking what bathroom door you enter) and any behavior would be something handled by the moderators.

I would say she was bringing up trouble because simpler question is "female avatars or nor", mostly harmless but still fairly inconsequential ... certainly not worthy of "look at this" and typical Macho Macho Man crap that as far I know that comes when the fucking Jocks became "gamers".

 

[Drakron]

It is those fucking feminists who are like a cancer in gaming and overall in the world.

You sound like one of those Allah Ackbar were the fault for things being shit is because of America or other typical bullshit.
Radicals are just that, they have no actual influence unless you let them and this is why I ignore them ...

Also looking at my venture in STO I would say the chances you shits go AWOL about less that 3 months in are very high, this is one reason I am not overall interested on the Codex Squad because my experience in STO is that rain in the Sahara is more dependable that Codexers attention span, anyone that is P2W in this game by paying hundreds for those massive ships better hope the NPC AI can actually hit anything because if you are depending on this lot to actually do anything the only thing your ships will be doing will be bolstering actual Fleet ... well fleets.

 

[J_C]

Radicals are just that, they have no actual influence unless you let them and this is why I ignore them ...

You might have missed the part when devs try to make their games gay-tranny and women friendly.

 

[Grunker]

feminist scum

Never thought I'd miss the day where every Codexer said nigger after every sentence.

Radicals are just that, they have no actual influence unless you let them and this is why I ignore them ...

You might have missed the part when devs try to make their games gay-tranny and women friendly.

Yeah, all my games suck because they have female avatars

Jesus Christ, the blinding retardation of pseudo-academic feminists and their hardcore opposition is one of the most nauseating types of idiocy on the internet, ever.

 

[Blaine]

I... don't understand how the "conversation" even reached this point.

The thread I snapped a screen grab of is funny because it's either a woman or (equally likely) a troll already lobbying for "m-muh rights, ban sexism." White knights are funny because, well, they're white knights. I'm only joking about Grunker being a golden knight. Not all male feminists are white knights, though many are. A real feminist shouldn't like white knights, either, since viewing women as weak maidens who need rescuing and defending generally isn't something they take kindly to... well, not in principle, anyway.

Female avatars were confirmed months ago and are coming. It's not surprising nor should it be considered sexist that the developers have modeled men first (likely just one model; they didn't even have hair for it for the 300 trailer), since 95% of the game's target audience are men. Women gamers who play Star Citizen like normal people and don't leverage their gender for attention and so on are also completely fine,

Spoiler

...as there's a kitchen in the Idris-class Corvette and there will be plenty for them to do.

 

[J_C]

Yeah, all my games suck because they have female avatars

I obviously didn't talk about female avatars, but changes to characters and story just to conform feminists. And was not even talking about Star Citizen but games in general.

 

[Grunker]

gays are ruining vidya games, waaaaah

 

[Grunker]

I'm only joking about Grunker being a golden knight.

I hadn't even seen the spoiler, so until know I didn't even know a laugh had been had on my account. That will be $5, sir.

 

[Dexter]

Yeah, all my games suck because they have female avatars

It has nothing to do with "female avatars" as such, but nowadays it is apparently expected to pander to feminists and for instance if a game designer decides that he doesn't want to do that he is automatically "sexist" and has to explain his reasoning behind that unimaginable decision to "game journalists", see for instance: http://otixero.com/post/55251896489/gavin-moore-why-do-we-want-girls-to-play-girls-and (but if these female characters have the wrong body proportions they are "sexist" too e.g. Dragon's Crown, so gotta be careful)

I personally never gave a fuck what I played as, as long as a game was good. I never had a problem playing a female in games like NOLF, BG&E, Tomb Raider, Oni etc.
I've also played among other things as a cockroach, a giant boulder and whatever the fuck that thing is and haven't had a problem with it either or have ever asked myself if they were male or female:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IdYOybF1WRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdgDiX2ORgI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIxef7gelnI

The ones that seemingly have a problem and constantly need to bring this up constantly are them, because they apparently haven't heard of the concept of something not appealing and/or pandering exactly to your tastes. And make no mistake this doesn't as much have to do with women/girls playing games either, there are and have been a lot of those since the inception of gaming and most of them judge a game by its inherent qualities or via social context and don't have a problem with most aesthetic design choices either. The people that are being referred to are a vocal sub-group that call themselves “feminists” (male and female) and apparently have a problem with any game that doesn’t feature a female character nowadays (like for instance a game about puppets):

or The Witcher 2/3 for not being “like Dragon Age” and allowing you to make Geralt female and if a game does have said feature it better be designed to their “specifications”.

It has gotten to the point that you can only joke about the latest idiocy or argument that comes out of the bowels of Kotaku or RPS in wondering bewilderment at what apparently "offends" these people nowadays and thus creates a HUEG problem.

 

[Drakron]

Women gamers who play Star Citizen like normal people and don't leverage their gender for attention and so on are also completely fine

That is the problem.

They are women, at no point this should be a problem but gender becomes nothing but a excuse for both sides.

Sure they shouldnt have more rights that male games, using their gender to get benefits is wrong but this also goes to people that use gender as a excuse to attack other people based only on their gender.

Gender isnt the issue, its its usage as a excuse to either get preferable treatment or to attack other players, the whole "feminism is running gaming" is a load of bullshit, what happens is people using gender as a excuse to push their own agenda, this is people that dont like violence in games (as a example) to use it to pass the idea games that are violent dont appeal to women and that is somewhat a problem but its very easy to see its a bullshit argument yet there will be people that will immediate attack those people just because they used the gender excuse because they WANT to attack women, they have no interest on violent games at all but want to attack "feminists" or rather they want to be sexists and get a get free out of jail card and drag every gamer along with it.

 

[J_C]

gays are ruining vidya games, waaaaah

You really don't understand what I'm saying or you are just plain stupid?

If the former:

Yeah, all my games suck because they have female avatars

It has nothing to do with "female avatars" as such, but nowadays it is apparently expected to pander to feminists and for instance if a game designer decides that he doesn't want to do that he is automatically "sexist" and has to explain his reasoning behind that unimaginable decision to "game journalists", see for instance: http://otixero.com/post/55251896489/gavin-moore-why-do-we-want-girls-to-play-girls-and (but if these female characters have the wrong body proportions they are "sexist" too e.g. Dragon's Crown, so gotta be careful)

The ones that seemingly have a problem and constantly need to bring this up constantly are them, because they apparently haven't heard of the concept of something not appealing and/or pandering exactly to your tastes. And make no mistake this doesn't as much have to do with women/girls playing games either, there are and have been a lot of those since the inception of gaming and most of them judge a game by its inherent qualities or via social context and don't have a problem with most aesthetic design choices either. The people that are being referred to are a vocal sub-group that call themselves “feminists” (male and female) and apparently have a problem with any game that doesn’t feature a female character nowadays (like for instance a game about puppets):

or The Witcher 2/3 for not being “like Dragon Age” and allowing you to make Geralt female and if a game does have said feature it better be designed to their “specifications”.

It has gotten to the point that you can only joke about the latest idiocy or argument that comes out of the bowels of Kotaku or RPS in wondering bewilderment at what apparently "offends" these people nowadays and thus creates a HUEG problem.

 

[Grunker]

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"feminist scum are ruining vidya games" is a surefire way to state you are in the "retarded opposition" group. Anyone with a sensible non-WCDS/non-pseudo-academia-feminist approach wouldn't use retarded exaggeration like that about people they disagree with.

Point at all the video games that are being ruined by the few retards making more extremist claims than the sensible "maybe we can make better characters than Lara Croft"-crowd or GTFO. The only games really infested with this that I can think of are BioWare games, and that's less Queer lobby and more the disgusting peculiar customer base BioWare has.

Right now, the whole debate is muddled by the loud shouts of some feminist trolls/idiots that don't understand the academia they think they're talking about versus a large group of entitled male gamers who eat the bait like it's candy.

 

[tuluse]

I'm pretty sure not a single game I've ever played has been worse because of the inclusion of women or gays.

Even Bioware games aren't worse because of these. They're writing is bad regardless of gender/sex/sexual-orientation. Yes there is a correlation between being more inclusive and the writing getting even worse, but I don't see any causation.

 

[Lyric Suite]

Gaming as a hobby used to be dominated by bitter lonely nerds who hated life and needed an outlet to escape from the daily stress of their existence. Then suddenly, a bunch of l1brul hipster faggots took over and all of a sudden gaming is now about pushing social issues, braking moral taboos and being the next "Citizen Kane". It is because of those l1brul hipster faggots that feminists are starting to pollute this hobby in droves, because now gaming is "important" enough to warrant their attention. Feminists didn't give a shit about gaming before because it was just an activity that loser males engaged in, so there was no room for them to show to others how "courageous" and "wonderful" they are, attention whoring being what feminism is actually all about.

 

[Blaine]

I'm very clever, and I've got it all figured out. See how retarded these extremists are? They're retarded, unlike me. Retarded... sorry, I just wanted to say "retarded" again.

Your post is essentially a vitriol sandwich with a moderate position (about half a slice of tomato) hidden somewhere in the middle.

Don't pat yourself on the back too much, or you'll strain your clavical ligaments.

Also, thanks so much for fueling the fire in this thread after lecturing me on the evils of bringing up feminism outside of GD. Hadn't touched it for weeks. Nothing I posted before today should have been inflammatory to anyone with two brain cells to rub together, unless they were on the prowl for a reason to start a fight, so don't blame me.

 

[Grunker]

l1brul hipster FEMINISM DECLINE FAGGOTS

don't blame me.

Do you see me replying to you anywhere else than here:

I'm only joking about Grunker being a golden knight.

I hadn't even seen the spoiler, so until know I didn't even know a laugh had been had on my account. That will be $5, sir.

sweet prince? No reason to waste your monthly butthurt quota on me when I talking to J_C.

Your post is essentially a vitriol sandwich with a moderate position (about half a slice of tomato) hidden somewhere in the middle.

Oh get off your high horse

A couple of pages after posting some derp jokes on feminism you lecture me on the manners of good debate because of my reply to someone who called his opposition "scum." I don't give two fucks who you are and what opinion you have; if you call your ideological opposition "scum" and file them all under one banner, I reserve the right to as 'liberål' a use of the word "retardation" as I deem necessary.

Your bias is seeping through the wet spot in your trousers, mate.

Feminist is the new nigger, and if you find but a single thread out of GD where I'm the one bringing up the discussion, point me right at it, dear sir, for my account has surely been stolen by some unseemly newfag in that case!

 

[Data4]

This feels like a circular argument, but I'll bite. First, let's just dispense with the strawman that is the simple inclusion of women in games. That's not a problem, and never has. Games that allow you to make your own character have had male or female as a choice for as long as I can remember. The problem is that one group that is on the constant hunt for anything that might, in any way, shape, or form, imply something that hardcore feminists decide is offensive.

The biggest problem I have with that is "offensive" is so retardedly subjective, it forces people to walk on eggshells hoping and praying that there's no little personality nuance about them that might set someone off. Senses of humor are stifled. Can't tell off-color jokes. Can't roleplay a personality type because that personality type is WACIST/SEXIST!...

In a multiplayer setting, it turns everything bland. So you're left with either going along to get along, or you counter troll with shit like "get back in the kitchen!" jokes in the hopes that you can break the will of the ninnies and hopefully prevent their sort of nonsense from turning the game into a politically correct shitfest.

 

[Blaine]

Do you see me replying to you anywhere else than here:

All right, just wanted to be sure (no sarcasm).

Your bias is seeping through the wet spot in your trousers, mate.

What bias? My reply has nothing to do which side you're on in this debate. It's your arrogant, know-it-all attitude that I'm criticizing, and it comes through clear as a bell. Answer me this: Do you think you're an expert on these issues?

Sinking to your opponents' foolish tactics is not a wise course of action, in my view.