Earn it where?Least appealing purchase in the entire game. It's basically a $260 LTI token. You literally earn it by completing Squadron 42's campaign in the live game.
Cease the excuses.Least appealing purchase in the entire game.
- 1st day will be all about Squadron 42
No it won't. That's not even a rumour. It's pure speculation from clickbait SC you tubers starved of anything. There will be NOTHING for Squadron 42 at Citizen Con. We will at best get a demo for Pyro and a 4.0 release date. There has been NO indication from CIG of SQ42 at Citizencon whatsoever. We are going to get two days of mostly boring and dry "tech" talk for features that will not even be present 5 years from now. And backers will act like CIG lied and are betraying them based on their own unsubstantiated speculation. It's really fucking tiresome. But will result in entertainment from salty and entitled whales.
I'd love to be wrong by the way. You can rub it in my face if I am.
Chill dude, you'll make people like ADL all fucking wet, mofo will be running down that line of people with his mouth wide open the entire event.Chris Roberts walking in front of the crowd, slapping everyone across the face with his cock. "Thank you and good night!"
Not an excuse just providing context. People are free to spend their money in whatever ridiculous way they choose and that includes paying real money for a ship that you're given for completing the campaign (ends with the player leaving the military and becoming a citizen in the persistent universe).Cease the excuses.Least appealing purchase in the entire game.
You don't get it. Cease the excuses, buy it now.Not an excuse just providing context.
You call it sucking the man's dick, I call it enjoying a video game. Try not being a cynical cunt and you might enjoy one too one of these days.
I know this is the jaded boomer hangout where old thing good new thing bad and for the most part that may be true, but this is one of the good ones and some of you are too stupid to even realize it.
You call it sucking the man's dick, I call it enjoying a video game. Try not being a cynical cunt and you might enjoy one too one of these days.
I know this is the jaded boomer hangout where old thing good new thing bad and for the most part that may be true, but this is one of the good ones and some of you are too stupid to even realize it.
-"It's not sucking a man's dick, it's enjoying video games!"
-"Apologize to Chris Roberts and become a Star Citizen today!"
Damn right, that's not just sucking dick, its downright gobbling it up, you cock muncher.
… but no dude, I do enjoy video games just fine, actual video games, not early extravagant retirement systems for a families that failed both in Hollywood and the video game industry. Plus, this “new thing” is over a decade old already, but that's fine, almost 10% already delivered, Pyro/S42/Server Meshing right around the corner, maybe next year if you pay piggies buy enough Idris!
holy shit, this sounds like hyper-cancer...mmo + browser grand strategy + nfts + prealpha buy shit XD
My money boner is reaching Scrooge McDuck proportions!holy shit, this sounds like hyper-cancer...mmo + browser grand strategy + nfts + prealpha buy shit XD
@Myobi some of CIG ex-empoyes made new game:
mmo + browser grand strategy + nfts + prealpha buy shit XD
Myobi some of CIG ex-empoyes made new game:
mmo + browser grand strategy + nfts + prealpha buy shit XD
Doesn't matter, just throw them money.Is any of the shit presented in this video actually in the game at all?
Myobi some of CIG ex-empoyes made new game:
mmo + browser grand strategy + nfts + prealpha buy shit XD
Myobi some of CIG ex-empoyes made new game:
mmo + browser grand strategy + nfts + prealpha buy shit XD
What kind of horror game is that. NFTs, block chain, web 3.0 and Epic store exclusive.
It even sounds like a typical presentation for potential investors, not something targeted at actual gamers.
Nothing new, check something called "Earth 2", since Kickstarter a lot of people realized that dumb fucks will throw money at anything, potato salads, gamer girl bath water, farts in jars...It even sounds like a typical presentation for potential investors, not something targeted at actual gamers.
You didn't see anything about web3.0 ? You are in for a treat to read that garbage. Literally dudes come up first with money scheme without even designing even concept of a game and think people should crowdfund them based on their new "amazing" game they have money concept for but no design at all.
Hello, me again as you know from https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitize..._bored_and_spent_9_hours_reading_through_124/
It was received generally well and I need something to do in between cargo missions so I went over every Citizen Con since 2016 in preparation for the upcoming citizen con. This will include Every ship announcement, feature announcement, with links to promises kept/broken (Even the sand worm). I noticed people said it was biased one way or another, so I will try to keep both the optimists/pessimists happy this time and provide timestamps to each feature mentioned.
2016 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDj5v81Nd0&ab_channel=StarCitizen Major Features/announcements
SQ 42 - Going to be its own segment as I was informed a good portion of you give 0 fucks about it, so you can skip these portions. - https://youtu.be/XuDj5v81Nd0?si=U03AK_b92va58RY0&t=3424
- Procedural Planets v2 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdCFTF8j7yI&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Implemented, to an extend. Promises were kept and broken. Initial presentation promised 60 FPS and what was shown was in game. However, the base building/procedural generation is present in current game, just not finished. However, Sandworm, the mission, and the entire presentation was "faked" and no mission is as in depth currently.
- Spectrum - Implemented full feature - Announcement of spectrum and organizations forming. Not much to delve deeper here - https://youtu.be/XuDj5v81Nd0?si=LfgBV4N7qP8bVtg0&t=2119 - Segment about 20minutes . One not implemented promise is spectrum in game, in game overlay, and additional customization for orgs (ingame)
- 2.6 - Star Marine addition, AC update, Crusader map, lobby -All completed
- New Flight Model - Completed/ we have a new new one Master Modes now
- Camera update for 3rd person - Implemented
- Announcements for 3.0-4.0 - Trading, Cargo, Piracy, Merc, Bounty Hunter, Mining, Refining/Processing, Quantum Interdiction, Refueling, rescue- All implemented, but years later than expected (with refueling 6 years later).
- not implemented - Escort, Additional Solar Systems, ship repair (incoming soon apparently), Farming, Exploration and discovery, Science and research
Ships Announced
- 2016-2017 Release date promised, along with spiel about what is going to be in it. We don't know what is finished from the list, but of the list that is intriguing is
- 40 distinct ships, 1255 pages of dialogue, AI with 24hr schedules
- Every mission has several ways to complete it, that will affect how characters interact with you in SC.
- They announce they will develop pathfinding logic - still in progress as of last SQ42 monthly update, animation integration - still in progress based on last SQ42 update, Improved combat logic- in progress, Mission system integration - Done as of 2021, Enhanced Flight AI - Improved significantly based on reports, still worked on
- OCS -Implemented
- All features at greybox or better- Controversial statement as indicated by previous post, you decide
Ships scheduled
- Polaris - In concept still, slated for production next year - 7 years
- Ursa, Dragonfly, Caterpillar, Constellation Aquila, Cutlass Red/Blue, Hull C, Prospector, 85x, Taurus, Phoenix, Terrapin, Harbinger, Sentinel, Reclaimer, Carrack, 890 Jump, Reliant - released, though some years after.
- Not in game - BMM, Orion, Crucible
2017 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eu71Dcpf3c0&ab_channel=StarCitizen - 7 hours, much longer
Major Features/announcements
SQ 42
- Land Claim - Not Implemented, announced with Pioneer
- Realistic Look - https://youtu.be/eu71Dcpf3c0?si=LFvqAsTt3fgC1Mcl&t=3838 - Half Implemented, its in game, but not as good as shown here.
- Ability to walk on slopes without dying - https://youtu.be/eu71Dcpf3c0?si=-2vI-NCnahv9S3uU&t=5184 - Implemented, now you rarely die 20+min segment on slopes.
- Real Mirrors will be implemented and not impact FPS - https://youtu.be/eu71Dcpf3c0?si=EG-debDWg00klJeK&t=9683 - Just need "a little bit of work"
- Lore segment - All in game via galactapedia
- No cutscenes when traveling to planets - Yes, they never broke this promise
- All Systems will be different, not copy paste, from Hurston to Crusader - Fulfilled.
- Showcased the head crab monsters on Lorville "will have a lot of them running around- Not implemented - Faked - https://youtu.be/eu71Dcpf3c0?si=uZBKG1sumNFBlQ14&t=26163
Ships Announced
- Development is "going well" 2018 release date.
Ships scheduled
- Intel Sabre Raven - In game -https://youtu.be/eu71Dcpf3c0?si=Ymdi-pMqd4N1jjfH&t=1843
- Pioneer with land Claim - https://youtu.be/eu71Dcpf3c0?si=EBXhRr93EsIqDo1G&t=18060 - Not implemented - Will come with on the fly resupply, landing platform, manufacturing facility, able to build "a car" and drivable vehicles.
- No Schedule this year as focus on bringing ships to market.
2018 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxjZUKL8ByQ&ab_channel=IntrepidDawnStudios - Full Show 9 hours
Major Features/announcements
- Tried to charge 20$ to watch the stream - Huge backlash on this sub, backed down from the plan
Ships Announced
- More Tech updates
- Finished most core tech, getting it out - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=-cDRwpqJ5qWWCB13&t=1161
- Items will be persistent, can store them in ship, house, hangar - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=YvgYiZ2Fy6-sMGKj&t=1617 - I say half implemented, mainly due to house/hangar not being in game.
- Closet interaction/Apartment - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=WKkohMbT4ouOxFvr&t=2034 - As far as I remember, I don't recall closets being a thing, but I honestly never opened one.
- AI go about their lives, eating, sweeping, sleeping - Implemented -But y'all know the state of them and showcased the Bartender AI first time - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=bYYrxHC_Mr6Z9CRo&t=2317 - Will be the core thing they need to finish all AI.
- Player loadout - In game - Inventory, stores, etc
- Trains that run on a schedule and multiple stops - Implemented, the whole wait time and stuff
- Law and Order system - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=bPPym6eA8Scsq-yE&t=3326 - Cops check your ID and such - Half implemented imo. They do check, but not as interactive as demo.
- Large Hangar - Implemented- the hangar in the demo is the big one you get when you call your ship. However, personal hangars and AIs in the hangars to fix your ship not in game
- Share Mission/same mission as another player - Implemented, as seen with JT, wake of disaster, etc
- Visceral Flying panel - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=i5tKUsCHVSRTzpF9&t=8491 - Master Modes changes this whole segment and make it worthless. However, they talk about ship design tools that will improve their ship building speed by several factors, says only a few weeks per ship once done.
- Lorville -all stuff mentioned in game about Lorville, minus Fauna.
- Char creation - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxjZUKL8ByQ&ab_channel=IntrepidDawnStudios - Mostly implemented, still being worked on
- Asteriods, volumetric fog, gas, etc- In progress, not all in, but asteroid fields and stuff are.
- Hangar Module - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxjZUKL8ByQ&ab_channel=IntrepidDawnStudios - Implemented, then unimplemented.
- Inventory/persistence - Implemented
- Server Meshing - Not implemented - But Soon tm - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=fwuGqBURgeLsRWSV&t=30355 , will allow thousands of players on Hurston. Server Meshing is the most important feature followed by full persistence - He says "Not gonna give a date", but hopefully soon.
- Road to Release Roadmap announced - Discontinued last year due to backlash, top post on this subreddit about how only 3/18 promises completed each quarter. Y'all remember the controversy. SQ 42 - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=WleL4WcXclIeXskP&t=30841
- Closing down development, almost closed out, no more technical hurdles. - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=beNmAoSKtLa7-VQ6&t=30742 - Going "really well, really happy with it" "Easy to close out"
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxjZUKL8ByQ&ab_channel=IntrepidDawnStudios - Narrative component/char creator, hair is still being worked on 5 years later.
- Kraken - Not implemented - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=V79d5jTSYxw-UTfi&t=1923 - Notes on the Kraken - Strip Mall,
- Valk - https://www.youtube.com/live/OxjZUKL8ByQ?si=H1GvZW-bgDSepG5C&t=5338 - In game
2019 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdN...0atMb1EAyYgggX5DyfUzd4&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Playlist this time.
Major Features/announcements
Ships Announced
- Coffee Machine on ship - https://youtu.be/wdNd2KNjJ78?si=BJoPbqiR5NfP8-ja&t=347 - Implemented.
- Beautiful shadows/ flying around microtech moon - https://youtu.be/wdNd2KNjJ78?si=9oPggtd7R_IYLlms&t=969 - Implemented
- Sexy Cortana/Alexa Microtech AI guide - https://youtu.be/wdNd2KNjJ78?si=-rPifFW6HW0KMV9v&t=1794 - NOT IMPLEMENTED WHERE IS SHE. I demand the microtech cortana. URGGGGHGHG
- Have to have the right suits, clothes, badges, etc in certain environments, NPCS react to clothing, you can't pilot ships in certain outfits - https://youtu.be/wdNd2KNjJ78?si=_WyxKBq1hdZwFjPc&t=1934 - Not implemented.
- Economic Model - Not Implemented - Really hyped it up. - https://youtu.be/_8VFw1F-olQ?si=jcqTSofec5KPI4_h&t=670 almost hour segment. None of it done in game. Build factories, shops, stores, etc. Promises the most complex game economy ever created and will ever be created. "It will be more complex than real life" and impossible to exploit.
- Ship Shutter system - not in game
- Theatres of War - Will be released in "weeks" - Not implemented due to tech implementations and lag. - https://youtu.be/Xr3PATgOEmo?si=rY4bdoZqLcHyZdid&t=927 . Their worst prediction, ever. Unique in the fact that several devs and CR parroted the fact it was done.
- Ship purchases -Implemented
- Ship Rentals - Implemented
- OCS/QoL - Implemented
- Server Meshing update, working on server side, almost done - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=j4eufpirxcIpel5E&t=698
- Full Universe Persistence - We have PES recently - 4 years later
- Outposts on microtech where you need an ID card to access, Mission briefing, etc - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=XedRAxIYCmN8NaUl&t=982 - Very cool segment - Might be faked as not in game yet.
- Cutter tech, can cut vents, doors, etc - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=F4zQrP2wemzRWeTM&t=1363 -100% fake, as they are still working on it.
- Stealth Gameplay + Missions, able to silent takedowns, change uniforms Hitman 47 like - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=bdP8iHBeQAdhLzqY&t=1755 - 100% faked, as we now know.
- Environmental Suits - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=aSk1CmrN1a0ZeemM&t=1992 - Visor frost up implemented, but all suits are the same currently, mentioned how environment matters suit to suit.
- Tarp pulling/Cloth physics - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=KHbdMDi8Jltbz5mh&t=2179 -100% faked, as we now know. Covering up vehicles protect them from environment - not a thing currently.
- Jump Points to Pyro - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=o7wtIc6pog0s1uZq&t=3298 - Now in PTU, but it shows it working here. So obviously faked.
- New Babbage - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=seh...YgggX5DyfUzd4&index=10&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Implemented, but not all promises. Mostly corporate ID, Trash AI (yes, picking up trash AI) SQ 42
- Carrack - https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?si=v5AmLeULOSdQYOf0&t=3752 - In Game
- Pisces - In game
- Railen teased - https://youtu.be/A1m2ETYj5DQ?si=ufU01lsIKso91c5A&t=2377
- Crime system/prison - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Z...yYgggX5DyfUzd4&index=4&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Implemented.
- Armor - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zd4...yYgggX5DyfUzd4&index=5&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Not Implemented, they mentioned sub components, armor matter, radar, life support, etc.
- Ship sounds rework - Done
2020
Major Features/announcements
- CitCon skipped, Covid, instead series of Pyro videos and invidual videos
- Promises to use time to finish prior promises
SQ 42
- Creature features - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dqb8DQpNHiM&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Not implemented, but the designs are cool, especially the Yeti of Microtech.
Ships Announced
- Single location of SQ42 shown, last time real footage shown.
- Perseus - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF8V2NH3g1Y&ab_channel=StarCitizen -Not released
2021 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vmf...2KG9U_7u7owS_zdagfcJEm&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Playlist, shortest citizencon since 2016. It returns with much hype and fanfare, biggest fundraising year ever, devs hyped about how much money they are getting. Largest new citizen sign ups, It was the most hype period of SC history. I cannot stress how much money they made and how much hype this year was.
Major Features/announcements
SQ 42
- PYRO - https://youtu.be/kZWT4aNY6lU?si=idSeFlvf0G4eibCz&t=139 - Much hype, relevant for now, talks about clinics, drugs, crime, etc. - Pyro Sizzle reel - https://youtu.be/kZWT4aNY6lU?si=kQ20dODwF-Uy59ja&t=2173
- Pyro will be out EoY or early 2022 at the latest
- Vulkan showcase - Still in progress
- Gen 12 Rendering - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQk...7owS_zdagfcJEm&index=5&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Still being worked on, noticable news is an artic rabbit on Microtech and water/rivers.
- Dynamic weather - Implemented.
- Server Meshing - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSz...7owS_zdagfcJEm&index=6&ab_channel=StarCitizen - Hard to do they found out, but they are making good progress, any day now. Mentions replication layer - 3.21 now and humorously, their database vendor - Remember the news on the shitshow last month, kinda funny in hindsight.
- Hiring NPCs - https://youtu.be/LxXy8HF1t70?si=BexIe2xy7hwzPNDB&t=1498 - They never said a date, so not too harsh on them here.
- Dynamic events- Nine Tails hunt you, npc pirates, etc. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxX...7owS_zdagfcJEm&index=8&ab_channel=StarCitizen - If you sell too much in one place, it would drive npc traders away, and how AI reacts to players. You can force all AI to sit in a zone, etc. -Not implemented, though they said it was gonna be in game soon, during that time frame I realized there was NO WAY they'd implemented this fast. This is like next gen tech. I'm sorry I'm putting my opinion here, but I feel the devs are TOO optimistic, like holy shit, all of this tech is cool as fuck, but this time table for this AI system is too optimistic. This feels like its 10x more complex than server meshing.
Ships Announced *400i
- None
Ships scheduled
- Tavari ship teased - No idea which it was
- BMM - https://youtu.be/gC7onjXyex0?si=t_w2jkIYvPjmWmjk&t=3801 - Worked on, RIP.
- Teased vehicles - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC7...7owS_zdagfcJEm&index=3&ab_channel=StarCitizen - I recognized all but C
2022 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-XotXbBXs4&ab_channel=StarCitizen long one again
Major Features/announcements
- First one where CR appears a lot in (been absent from speaking roles in depth last few)
SQ 42
- Water/Swimming almost done - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=aLfdD8rL78q0s_Dr&t=1293
- Hangars, Executive wings, etc- https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=w_DWym6zg_I60y9t&t=4723 -Not implemented, but recent persistent hangar vid.
- Lorville rework - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=LRYojDTrEciPZNF_&t=7390 - Done
- Pressurized rooms, turn off gravity in ships, vent ship rooms, fire, etc - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=XjH8Wcjoe94nX5Ck&t=8412 - Really cool tech demo, not in game currently but they said 4.x after pyro.
- Mantling Jump, etc - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=61gU94J8Eke7CG5v&t=12785 -Implemented this patch
- Armor thing mentioned years ago actually done, just not put on live yet - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=6bBv_Tou67bH6KdN&t=13223 -Not being able to use ships in certain armor, temp, life support, etc.
- EVA 2.0 - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=YcEMWBlcmUev8d52&t=13335 - Not implemented, but will after 4.0.
- Trolleys - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=3iVh3FQe85hvejGe&t=14007 -Not implemented, 4.x
- Quantum Boost - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=8JkbF-mWFZ81IvMm&t=15175 - Can QT whereever
- New UI, throughout the video you see it - already in SQ42 apparently, but not on live until 4.x
- Minimap/scan minimap for FPS - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=lW7LsVRB2J2NAIIC&t=15662 - Not in game, but in SQ42, will come out in 4.x apparently
- Better AI soon - they say this every year, but more emphasis on soon - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=FZ9u5KFaKDTyZf-k&t=16803 - NOTE - They have showcased stealth 3 times, over the past 7 years. Still not in game, take it with heavy dose of salt.
- Stat system (leveling up RPG like), can have more STR carry more, Agility ADS faster, etc - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=rj_pY8qVFplV9tOB&t=17410
- New UI showcase - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=G3sYnhmmpeQ-h_Xf&t=18046
Ships Announced
- More info on SQ42 for the first time in a while, og SQ42, did not fit CR vision in his mind, will not release until it match perfectly with his vision. - https://youtu.be/z-XotXbBXs4?si=wxlqZOr2liyE4x-F&t=18540
Closing thoughts/fun stats
- 2016 had the most broken/unreleased/lied promises.
- Ship from announced to release has gotten better over the years, but hilariously, 2016 had the most not shipped ships still to this day.
- There is a noticeable reduction in "lies" or "fake" demos after 2019, there are still some, but to a lesser degree.
- The years with the most "lies"/"fake demos" that are still not in the game and team admitted to not working on them were 2016 and 2019. With 2019 actually being worst due to the gamut of promises/showcases.
- If ONLY Chris Roberts announces or say something about a feature or timeline, only 17% of them are in game now. Based upon 100~ statements. If Chris Roberts + a dev says similar things, it goes up to the mid 70%.
- Every Chris Robert Timeline from 2016/2017, was 5-6 years off. Chris Roberts 2021 was 2 years off, with many features now released or soon to be released from 2021. So 2-3 years. He's gotten better.
- If multiple devs say something and Chris roberts doesn't mention it, it has a 94% of being in the game currently within 2 years.
- This means we want news, NOT mentioned by CR at all. Kinda funny.
- Lore Team is the most consistent, with a near 100% completion on their lore timelines (when they release languages, flesh out lore, etc), they only missed 1 deadline.
- Ship team had 3 reworks of ships, flight models, or damage since 2016.
- UI has gotten a rework once ever 2.5 years.
Hilarious.
- If ONLY Chris Roberts announces or say something about a feature or timeline, only 17% of them are in game now. Based upon 100~ statements. If Chris Roberts + a dev says similar things, it goes up to the mid 70%.
- Every Chris Robert Timeline from 2016/2017, was 5-6 years off. Chris Roberts 2021 was 2 years off, with many features now released or soon to be released from 2021. So 2-3 years. He's gotten better.
- If multiple devs say something and Chris roberts doesn't mention it, it has a 94% of being in the game currently within 2 years.
- This means we want news, NOT mentioned by CR at all. Kinda funny.