Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice (new From Software game)

[Baron Dupek]

What about King's Field or other first person RPGs, they have a chance to break monopoly of Bethesda in that matter by coming back to their roots, if they bother.

 

[Dedicated_Dark]

Don't like the fact that they are still sticking to the checkpoint system of the prior games. Like they themselves are making their prior games less unique.

 

[Hassar]

I'm glad this isn't Souls with a samurai skin, although there are similarities, which is the case for many FromSoft games. You're this ninja dude and that's that. And I hope the next Miyazaki game is even less like Souls. I think there is something wrong with the brains of people who can't grasp or get over what this game isn't, or they are man-babies who feel they are entitled to have a game director service them with the same shit over and over. They're probably assmad they won't be able to grind to win or run around with blue skin in a waistcloth and funny hat.

Miyazaki made a game very recently that wasn't like Souls at all: Deracine. It was great. Definitely the best narrative work to come out from them. Reviewers weren't kind to it though because it's very understated and weird

I watched a few “Deracine” let’s plays on YT. Maybe the reviews were unkind because of the limited interactions the player could have and the few major decisions at the end? It looked more like a visual novel rendered in 3-d which fit the story-based approach but was not a particularly great story in a market where visual novels are a viable niche with great examples of story in multiple titles.

 

[Dickie_Anderson]

I'm glad this isn't Souls with a samurai skin, although there are similarities, which is the case for many FromSoft games. You're this ninja dude and that's that. And I hope the next Miyazaki game is even less like Souls. I think there is something wrong with the brains of people who can't grasp or get over what this game isn't, or they are man-babies who feel they are entitled to have a game director service them with the same shit over and over. They're probably assmad they won't be able to grind to win or run around with blue skin in a waistcloth and funny hat.

Miyazaki made a game very recently that wasn't like Souls at all: Deracine. It was great. Definitely the best narrative work to come out from them. Reviewers weren't kind to it though because it's very understated and weird

I watched a few “Deracine” let’s plays on YT. Maybe the reviews were unkind because of the limited interactions the player could have and the few major decisions at the end? It looked more like a visual novel rendered in 3-d which fit the story-based approach but was not a particularly great story in a market where visual novels are a viable niche with great examples of story in multiple titles.

The "few major decisions" complaint is definitely valid. Most reviewers I've read didn't touch on that, though. Most just didn't seem to like what it was going for, or misunderstood it (one in particular complained that it was creepy, as if it were unintentional). The story is tied so beautifully to the strange disconnected feeling you have, looking and poking around a 3D environment frozen in time, that I don't think it would necessarily translate well to the visual novel format. I admit I'm not overly familiar with that genre, though.

 

[sullynathan]

 

[Silva]

Noticed something good and something bad in this last clip:

The good: character movements have a kind of bodily inertia to them that gives me Dark Souls 1 vibes.

The bad: GFX seem an improved Dark Souls 3 engine with that same ugly, grayish, pallete.

 

[glass blackbird]

When they first announced it I thought it was Tenchu and was excited. But it ain't

 

[Great Deceiver]

What about King's Field or other first person RPGs, they have a chance to break monopoly of Bethesda in that matter by coming back to their roots, if they bother.

The audience for modern Bethesda RPGs wouldn't last 10 minutes in a proper King's Field game, so I tend to disagree.

 

[Siveon]

I’m butthurt it’s not Armored Core

Daemon x Machina. I just played the demo, it's more or less Armored Core 6.

 

[sullynathan]

 

[Child of Malkav]

Not watching.
Hard as hell but.....no more spoilers.

 

[Matador]

I don' t understand these boss showcase videos. What good they do to promote the game? they are only spoilering game peaks.

One of the best aspects of these games are discovering for the first time the nasty bosses with anxiety and dread.

Not clicking that shit.

 

[sullynathan]

I don' t understand these boss showcase videos. What good they do to promote the game? they are only spoilering game peaks.

One of the best aspects of these games are discovering for the first time the nasty bosses with anxiety and dread.

Not clicking that shit.

It's only a 30 sec cutscene, how much can it really spoil?

 

[aweigh]

They completely dumbed it down:

- no stamina bar
- you can resurrect immediately where you died with no penalty
- no corpse recovery
- no armor system
- no attributes
- no classes
- stealth is easier than ever
- can insta-kill from behind or from above

 

[Wunderbar]

Dumbed down comparing to what?
It's not a souls game, it's just a medium budget action-adventure with stealth elements.

 

[aweigh]

Ah, well, when you put it that way... it seems even more bland and uninteresting than before.

 

[karoliner]

Their goal was to make an action game like DMC or Bayonetta not a RPG. For that they already have Dark Souls and Bloodborne.

 

[MuscleSpark]

- no stamina bar
- you can resurrect immediately where you died with no penalty

The poise bar functionally works like a stamina bar, it's just reversed in that it builds up rather than drains.
Also From did say there was going to be a penalty, they just haven't mentioned what it would be.

 

[aweigh]

Their goal was to make an action game like DMC or Bayonetta not a RPG. For that they already have Dark Souls and Bloodborne.

Ah, my bad. I just assumed they were gonna continue to make real games.

 

[glass blackbird]

oh no, not a stealth game, whatever shall we do

 

[polo]

'Dumbed down' didn't even play it.
I mean, its not a souls game, they've said it would not be an rpg many times.
I mean you could complain about duming down even when the first video came out, watching how you could hook at everything in different ways.

The fighting seems like a lot of fun to me so i dont care.

 

[InD_ImaginE]

D4rK S0uLz iS th3 0nLy r34L Gam3Z.



With how every game trying to copy the series one way or another (even fucking Darksiders 3 try to integrate Soulslike combat), it is one of the most derivative modern ARPG.

At least Form Software are making something with fresher experience. Fucks Soulsborne, gimme Armored Core next after this.

 

[aweigh]

I'm not a Dark Souls fan nor do I like the games. I just love riling you people up lol, it's so fucking easy.

Needless to say DS games weren't RPGs either so GTFOH with that bullshit. Only RPGs that From's ever done were the King's Field games, which are objectively better than DS/Bloodborne popamole.

 

[cvv]

It's only a 30 sec cutscene, how much can it really spoil?

30 secs.

 

[Zep Zepo]

I'll try it (Gamefly), but with no SunBros to help me out, I'll probably quit and return it early. I'm not much of a "boss fighter", sadly.

Zep--