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Solasta Solasta: Crown of the Magister Thread - now with Palace of Ice sequel DLC

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Maybe one without verbal components
This is actually one of the great things about Solasta is implementation of verbal, somatic, and material components. Good shit.
Many great things implemented, the verticality, the enemies who can shove and push you , reactions, ton of details like concentration to keep spells that can lead flying casters to the death. Most underrated game ever. It's way above ancient d&d crpgs.
The problem is that the included campaigns are ridiculously easy. Imo.

Are you guys playing The Forsaken Isle on scavenger difficulty?
 

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Not only easy, also terribly designed. There are almost no encounters that take any amount of advantage of any of those features
 
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Maybe one without verbal components
This is actually one of the great things about Solasta is implementation of verbal, somatic, and material components. Good shit.
Many great things implemented, the verticality, the enemies who can shove and push you , reactions, ton of details like concentration to keep spells that can lead flying casters to the death. Most underrated game ever. It's way above ancient d&d crpgs.
The problem is that the included campaigns are ridiculously easy. Imo.

Are you guys playing The Forsaken Isle on scavenger difficulty?
No, i play the mod on authentic. The original campaign are indeed too easy for the same reason i give artyoan no slack , there's too many rests and no ressources management, casters are king. You can set difficulty on cataclysm if you want,or double the number of enemies; if you can cast control spells at will, it will always be trivial. At level 2 already you have stuff like spike growth the Ai can do nothing against that,a druid is a god class there, superb control spell, wildshape make them invincible too. Then later but still early level you get stinking clouds, perfect to control crow and down them one by one. Then it only gets better with higher levels in fact easier than lower ones since you can just surround your group with firewall. Greater invisibility also completely broke the game in solasta , refrain yourself from using it.
I'd prefer things to be on ironman with ressources management like tabletop adventures are.
 

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Not only easy, also terrible designer. There are almost no encounters that take any amount of advantage of any of those features
They are not terrible designers, in the demo you had limited rest, they willingly tone down the difficulty to make it playable for the average steam players and the gamepass. Unfortunatly they do not include a real authentic mode anymore.
 

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Are you guys playing The Forsaken Isle on scavenger difficulty?
I'm playing on authentic, but with deadlier/merciless AI turned on. I enjoy seeing monsters' deadliest moves, but I hate the flat bonuses that come with scavenger mode.

Artyoan what's the deal with that Tessa gal? I gave her what she asked for and she explained her quest, but I don't know where to find the dead guy. I looked around the graveyards, but nothing popped up. Did I miss something?
 

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Are you guys playing The Forsaken Isle on scavenger difficulty?
I'm playing on authentic, but with deadlier/merciless AI turned on. I enjoy seeing monsters' deadliest moves, but I hate the flat bonuses that come with scavenger mode.

Artyoan what's the deal with that Tessa gal? I gave her what she asked for and she explained her quest, but I don't know where to find the dead guy. I looked around the graveyards, but nothing popped up. Did I miss something?
Down in the sewers near where those goblins were is a door that leads to his crypt. On the west side.
 

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Down in the sewers near where those goblins were is a door that leads to his crypt. On the west side.
Right, now that map marker makes sense... thanks! And, just so I know, did I cuck myself out of 1k+ fantasy dollars by buying the soul gem? Should I have waited to find one while exploring?
 

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Down in the sewers near where those goblins were is a door that leads to his crypt. On the west side.
Right, now that map marker makes sense... thanks! And, just so I know, did I cuck myself out of 1k+ fantasy dollars by buying the souls gem? Should I have waited to find one while exploring?
Nope, the soul gem either drops from the Wight/skeleton encounter on the roll activator in the forest or you have to buy it.
 

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Around 458k units solds according vginsight
Is that Steam only, as the game is also on GOG plus Xbox consoles?

Also Microsoft are paying them to have it on Gamepass, so there's probably some income stream there. Not forgetting they also got $270,000 off Kickstarter initially plus whatever they've made in DLC sales.

They probably have their heads above water.
 
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I'd imagine Steam is their primary source of income. The game has some activity at GOG but it's nowhere near Steam's I'd say. I think the Workshop integration is what people care about the most in this case.
 

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Haven't really done much of anything with it, but that Unfinished Business mod is pretty cool. I don't use mods all that often, so it's all new to me.
I never use mods the first playthrough of a game but I might after that. For Solasta I'd tell people to play the two main campaigns without the mod, then use the mod if they want to play custom campaigns or replay. It adds an enormous amount. Can multiclass too but I haven't used that part. Respec is in there somewhere. Speed up the game more when holding the space bar. Shorten the often ridiculous crafting timers. The new feats, subclasses, and spells really refresh the game though. Would be hard to go back to the regular version at this point.
 

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
Elves can be more interisting as amoral cruel fey creatures as legend depict them in a rpg.
For all the hilarity and funny stuff in discworld, Pratchett absolutely nailed the fey in this regard.
Also I agree, Melnibonéan elves would at least put up the semblance of a fight before being genocided.
 

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Not only easy, also terrible designer. There are almost no encounters that take any amount of advantage of any of those features
They are not terrible designers

Just autocorrect on my Danish phone, I wrote "terribly designed." And yes, Solasta's encounters are extremely poorly designed. I can hardly think of any encounters with anything interesting going on at all, certainly not that take advantage of all the systems implemented
 

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I can hardly think of any encounters with anything interesting going on at all, certainly not that take advantage of all the systems implemented
I mean, other than fights on high bridges straight out of pulp stories, with all the shoving into the abyss below that could entail, what other sort of encounter do you think would use the systems to advantage?
 

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Maybe one without verbal components
This is actually one of the great things about Solasta is implementation of verbal, somatic, and material components. Good shit.
Many great things implemented, the verticality, the enemies who can shove and push you , reactions, ton of details like concentration to keep spells that can lead flying casters to the death. Most underrated game ever. It's way above ancient d&d crpgs.

Eldricht blasting spiders to their death (who are immune to standard shoving) is satisfying enough to make it worth buying the warlock DLC alone.
 

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Around 458k units solds according vginsight
Is that Steam only, as the game is also on GOG plus Xbox consoles?

Also Microsoft are paying them to have it on Gamepass, so there's probably some income stream there. Not forgetting they also got $270,000 off Kickstarter initially plus whatever they've made in DLC sales.

They probably have their heads above water.
Its their site estimation extrapolating by number of reviews and players, so its nothing accurate at all. GOG sales are always insignificant, xbox sales i dont know, gamepass deal? no idea either. 270000$ of kickstarter yes but in the end those are just like normal sales. You can have a look at their balance sheet online but its not free and that still wont give you any idea on on how many real sales.
 

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Haven't really done much of anything with it, but that Unfinished Business mod is pretty cool. I don't use mods all that often, so it's all new to me.
Be sure to finish playing before next big update as the mod wont be compatible with the new DLC release immediately.
 

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The thing holding Solasta back for me was that it didn't run smoothly on the machine I use for gaming. I'm thinking about upgrading over the summer for the new Ice Palace expansion, if the party size increase mod works.
 

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The thing holding Solasta back for me was that it didn't run smoothly on the machine I use for gaming. I'm thinking about upgrading over the summer for the new Ice Palace expansion, if the party size increase mod works.
It ran poorly for me in the main campaigns on my laptop. Very smooth in the custom campaigns though. Once I got to the rainy, gloomy castle area it seemed to be choppy for quite a while. Rain effects seem to be particularly taxing.

My understanding is that they overhauled the mod during the Inner Strength update and won't need to do that again. They also seem to get a heads up as to changes from TA devs so the mod is switched over pretty quick for updates. I don't expect lengthy downtime on the mod.
 

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I just picked up this game recently and put over 40 hours into it over 4 days. What a masterpiece! It's on track to be my favorite RPG of the past decade.

My most memorable moment so far is when I thought I was being clever and climbed my party to the top of a tower to rain missile attacks on a remorhaz offspring. The little bastard just burrowed to the top of the tower anyway and sent my entire party flying off to their deaths. :-(
 

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The thing holding Solasta back for me was that it didn't run smoothly on the machine I use for gaming. I'm thinking about upgrading over the summer for the new Ice Palace expansion, if the party size increase mod works.
It ran poorly for me in the main campaigns on my laptop. Very smooth in the custom campaigns though. Once I got to the rainy, gloomy castle area it seemed to be choppy for quite a while. Rain effects seem to be particularly taxing.

My understanding is that they overhauled the mod during the Inner Strength update and won't need to do that again. They also seem to get a heads up as to changes from TA devs so the mod is switched over pretty quick for updates. I don't expect lengthy downtime on the mod.
I think the mod-maker who goes by Silverquick is also getting updates on the development of the mod tools. If that's true then get in there, Arty.
 

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The thing holding Solasta back for me was that it didn't run smoothly on the machine I use for gaming. I'm thinking about upgrading over the summer for the new Ice Palace expansion, if the party size increase mod works.
It ran poorly for me in the main campaigns on my laptop. Very smooth in the custom campaigns though. Once I got to the rainy, gloomy castle area it seemed to be choppy for quite a while. Rain effects seem to be particularly taxing.

My understanding is that they overhauled the mod during the Inner Strength update and won't need to do that again. They also seem to get a heads up as to changes from TA devs so the mod is switched over pretty quick for updates. I don't expect lengthy downtime on the mod.
I think the mod-maker who goes by Silverquick is also getting updates on the development of the mod tools. If that's true then get in there, Arty.
He does beta testing for TA. He was the one who said a new campaign was coming down the line several months ago. I'd probably decline beta testing if asked tbh.
 

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There are two 'ritual stones' in the starting forest area, both with a roll activator. Both have two potential battles each, depending on success/failure of the roll. I don't recall struggling at all with either the hag or minotaur and I'm pretty sure I got both of those. West side can have some dryads if the roll is failed, east side has a wight and some skeletons if failed. I'll probably finish morrows deep six man, publish that, and then do a run through of each with new parties, probably aiming for balanced parties but not using any of the more praised UB subclasses. Then I'll look to enemy parameter changes as I go. The elite minotaur is much harder if spawned at level 2 on the four man.

All of those encounters are meant to be potential level 2 stepping stones to level 3. The orcs in the cave are balanced for 3. The open nature of the zone led to some annoying aspects, but I prefer this over something very linear in the end. Like the spiders near that tree or the orcs/goblins in front of the cave were originally just active, but then could see the player across the rivers, resulting in highly annoying battles where melee can't reach each other.

If you like the beginning of the campaign you'll almost certainly like the rest. It's pretty consistent I think.

I haven't gotten very far in your module, but it's a good time. Not easy, but not overly unfair. It does push you to actually use stuff you can ignore in most adventures (Solasta or otherwise) like dodging, knocking prone, setting up fields, etc. even in the early fights, so that's refreshing.

I also like that you can run into things where you're underlevelled and can possibly win, but it's not something you can take for granted and more likely you're just going to have a rough time unless you level up and find more resources first.

I have had a few combats lock up and hang, but I think that's either a Solasta engine bug or something to do with the Unfinished Business mod. Pretty sure I had it happen in the unmodded OC too, but it's been awhile.
 

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