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Solasta Solasta: Crown of the Magister Thread - now with Palace of Ice sequel DLC

fantadomat

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I want to ask how is an encounter design. Is it good?
Not really,it its pretty mediocre. By the midway you could see when there is going to be fight. When there is a lot of "towers" in the area,it means that some retards will attack you from there. If there is big area with lava/hole that is split in smaller areas that could hold 2-4 people,then most likely you will be attacked by spiders or elementals. It is very repetitive and boring.
 

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It is strange fantadomat says the opposite of others when talking about parts of the game, hmmm I wonder who is correct?
 

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"There's also the fact that you can only attune to 3 magic items that requires attunement. There are only a handful of items that doesn't which limits how much power you can have. It's nice that you can't get crazy high modifiers like 3e, but it also sucks because of how limiting the the 3 attunements is. If it was something like 5, it would be a bit better."

I just go with proficiency = # of attunements. Good sense of progression that way.

That flying lizard battle wasn't too hard. I didn't even bother resting at the campfire just outside its room. LMAO I did have to restart it once, though. If I had rested I coulda gone full throttle.
 

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
It is strange fantadomat says the opposite of others when talking about parts of the game, hmmm I wonder who is correct?
Since when have you known fantadomat to be right about anything


Anyway, I've barely had a chance to play it yet because our five days of nice weather have come early this year. The main thing of note so far is that the writing is much better than I expected. Pretty much this:
Guess I'm the only one that find the writing good. I mean it's not Dostoyevsky, but it's to the point and I think it's suits the adventure really well. Might have a bit of a Saturday morning cartoon feeling to it, but it adds to the charm for me. It's not like Larian whimsical cringe at all.
Excited to play more.
 

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I want to ask how is an encounter design. Is it good?

Not masterpiece like KoTC but not bad like on Larian games.
They are both masterpieces, both are doing ton of things most crpgs dont . Kotc and ktoc 2 are doing some things solasta dont . The grapple , pushing characters into traps, and i think in overall more widely using spells and abilities, AI might be slightly better , the encounters bigger in scale and variety . Solasta implement a light and darkness system, verticality , reactions . Both AI works good during encounters. Clearly both are on the top.
BG3 lags behind so far, and nothing makes me think they are going to enhance this.
 

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I want to ask how is an encounter design. Is it good?

Not masterpiece like KoTC but not bad like on Larian games.
If it didn't had verticality it would have been ok. In BG3 at least there is some well crafted encounters,here not so much.

Nah, I found BG3 encounters much more boring, repetitive and long. To fight lowly goblins, took 1hour and 13 min. A encounter which would end in a single fireball on BG1...

I will probably repĺay solasta with 2x damage taken and 50% enemy health. That way, the combat will gonna be half as long. But still too slow for my taste. IMO the best turn based D&D game still : Dark Sun : Wake of The Ravager and Knights of the Chalice 2 has potential to dethrone that masterpiece.

 

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It is strange fantadomat says the opposite of others when talking about parts of the game, hmmm I wonder who is correct?
What do you think if he dislikes one of the main game's features? Verticality I mean. Imo it's very fresh, neat and well implemented feature unlike in EA BG3 where all have free advantages because of it, bonus shoves and shit. Here it's the legit tactical aspect with some stand-outs like darkweaver who's getting small (=gen prof.) bonus damage if he's above enemy.
 

fantadomat

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I want to ask how is an encounter design. Is it good?

Not masterpiece like KoTC but not bad like on Larian games.
If it didn't had verticality it would have been ok. In BG3 at least there is some well crafted encounters,here not so much.

Nah, I found BG3 encounters much more boring, repetitive and long. To fight lowly goblins, took 1hour and 13 min. A encounter which would end in a single fireball on BG1...

I will probably repĺay solasta with 2x damage taken and 50% enemy health. That way, the combat will gonna be half as long. But still too slow for my taste. IMO the best turn based D&D game still : Dark Sun : Wake of The Ravager and Knights of the Chalice 2 has potential to dethrone that masterpiece.
Ahhh i agree,i said that there are a few well crafted ones. Not that it has good encounters,it is far too slow and repetitive,i do agree with that. But still there are hand crafted encounters where you have split your party and come at it from different angles and use different tactics. But in the end we are comparing two turds and arguing which one is more aesthetic.

It is strange fantadomat says the opposite of others when talking about parts of the game, hmmm I wonder who is correct?
Hmm well it really depends on the person mate,you should check it out for yourself and come up with your own opinions. I do prefer complex battles with originality with complex levelling and synergy between your party members. I just killed a dragon in two turns by going to it and smacking it on the head ,the combat in solasta is basic at best. Enemy AI is larping as smart but end up running trough my opportunity attacks most of the times.




The game is a decline when compared to any decent RPG,like bg games,nwn games,kingmaker,underrail,shadowrun,arcanum,torment,iwd or fallout. Why have the codex declined that much? People are begining to slurp any garbage that is shitted out because muh D&D. Fucking brand sheep should be banned from here,it is disgusting how consumer based the forum have become. Haven't seen any critical thinking in here,only hype and bitching. What the fuck happened ?! Cunts like Strange Fellow bitch about me but don't put up an actual argument,just mih fanta this fanta that,ignoring my points. I doubt that people that praise the game have even played it at this point,disgusting empty shills!
 

fantadomat

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A neat gimmick but hardly something to design a game around.
Yeah,it is not done even well,it have really slow animations and makes the party do it one at a time. Non combat travelling is tripled because of it,in the combat it becomes old fast,your enemy's archers and casters are put on a tower or elevated,and that is it.
 

fantadomat

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Ever had a dragon sneak up on you?
:hmmm:
Ahh yes,you speak with them in normal story.
Spoilers for the story...maybe.
Ahhh after all,all the masters you hunt around are fucking dragons. Most likely the whole empire was ruled by dragons lol,even the spirit in the crown is a dragon.
 

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Why have the codex declined that much? People are begining to slurp any garbage that is shitted out because muh D&D.

Yep. The game is a decline compared to bg, nwn, kingmaker, underrail, shadowrun, arcanum, torment, iwd or fallout and I would add KoTC, ST:Kotor(...). However, is a incline compared to D3, DA:I and all 5E D&D games like Sword Coast LEgends and even BG3.

Is not that the codex declined that much. Is that Solasta is the unique 5E decent adaptation. The game still inferior to 3E adaptations(kotor 1/2, nwn1/2, kotc1/2, pfkm, pfwotr, etc) and 2E adaptations(all gold box, dark sun games, bg1/2, etc). But only because a game isn't a masterpiece, doesn't means that it is bad. It will be a gateway for modern 5E fans to get into 3E and 2E games. We don't live in 90s; now almost all TT adaptations are trash.

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A question; Anyone here disagrees that : PF:WoTR > KoTC2 > Solasta > BG3???

i'm a story fag, is this as bad as people say plot wise?

The plot is pretty basic but interesting IMO.
 

fantadomat

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Why have the codex declined that much? People are begining to slurp any garbage that is shitted out because muh D&D.

Yep. The game is a decline compared to bg, nwn, kingmaker, underrail, shadowrun, arcanum, torment, iwd or fallout and I would add KoTC, ST:Kotor(...). However, is a incline compared to D3, DA:I and all other 5E D&D games like Sword Coast LEgends and even BG3.

Is not that the codex declined that much. Is that Solasta is the unique 5E decent adaptation. The game still inferior to 3E adaptations(kotor 1/2, nwn1/2, kotc1/2, pfkm, pfwotr, etc) and 2E adaptations(all gold box, dark sun games, bg1/2, etc). But only because a game isn't a masterpiece, doesn't means that it is bad. It will be a gateway for modern 5E fans to get into 3E and 2E games.

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A question; Anyone here disagrees that : PF:WoTR > KoTC2 > Solasta > BG3???

i'm a story fag, is this as bad as people say plot wise?

The plot is pretty basic but interesting IMO.
It is bad,it shows lack of standards. A pile of shit is pile of shit,people are defending this garbage and even recommending it. They are either retards that will bring down the level of the codex,or intellectually disingenuous,which is even worst.

A question; Anyone here disagrees that : PF:WoTR > KoTC2 > Solasta > BG3???
This not valid,as much i hate bg3,the game is not out thus it can't be said what level of competence is in it. Tho at least bg3 have some skills checks and dialogue.
 

Mortmal

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Why have the codex declined that much? People are begining to slurp any garbage that is shitted out because muh D&D.

Yep. The game is a decline compared to bg, nwn, kingmaker, underrail, shadowrun, arcanum, torment, iwd or fallout and I would add KoTC, ST:Kotor(...). However, is a incline compared to D3, DA:I and all 5E D&D games like Sword Coast LEgends and even BG3.

Is not that the codex declined that much. Is that Solasta is the unique 5E decent adaptation. The game still inferior to 3E adaptations(kotor 1/2, nwn1/2, kotc1/2, pfkm, pfwotr, etc) and 2E adaptations(all gold box, dark sun games, bg1/2, etc). But only because a game isn't a masterpiece, doesn't means that it is bad. It will be a gateway for modern 5E fans to get into 3E and 2E games. We don't live in 90s; now almost all TT adaptations are trash.

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A question; Anyone here disagrees that : PF:WoTR > KoTC2 > Solasta > BG3???

i'm a story fag, is this as bad as people say plot wise?

The plot is pretty basic but interesting IMO.
Oh yes i disagree with it i place solasta >bg3 > kotc 2 . I have not played woTR , the simple fact its not turn based does not allow to compare them. I have no reason to think its more tactical than kingmaker.
Kotc2 require lot of balancing and hardly anyone will really enjoy it. BG3 is fun at least.
 

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