Solasta Solasta: Crown of the Magister Thread - now with Palace of Ice sequel DLC

[Lacrymas]

5E is a good ruleset.

 

[Tacgnol]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

 

[fantadomat]

5E is a good ruleset.

Only if you are a retard.

 

[Lacrymas]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Keep in mind Solasta is not a good representation of 5E. It not only doesn't have all the classes, but also the actual character building.

 

[Parabalus]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Solasta is very refreshing compared to Pathfinder's autistic bonus stacking.

Better?

No, but a welcome change of pace, and a testament that you can have a decent system with way less variables.

 

[Strange Fellow]

I don't mind the item attunement limits so much, but concentration is annoying. Ooh, I'd like to try out that new spell here! Oh, that cancels my concentration? Never mind then. How about this one? No, okay. Then how about-- No. No. It is not allowed. Only 1 fun spell per battle.

 

[Cryomancer]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Keep in mind Solasta is not a good representation of 5E. It not only doesn't have all the classes, but also the actual character building.

Still the best adaptation. Which is not hard when the other ""adaptations"" are mobile cashgrabs, DOS3 bg3 and Sword Coast LEgends

I don't mind the item attunement limits so much, but concentration is annoying. Ooh, I'd like to try out that new spell here! Oh, that cancels my concentration? Never mind then. How about this one? No, okay. Then how about-- No. No. It is not allowed. Only 1 fun spell per battle.

5E did it to prevent :



I personally prefer 3E casting, but some people hate having 666 buffs, 666 Sirrocos, walls of fire, incendiary clouds and etc on the battlefield. Is just a matter of preference.

 

[fantadomat]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Solasta is very refreshing compared to Pathfinder's autistic bonus stacking.

Better?

No, but a welcome change of pace, and a testament that you can have a decent system with way less variables.

LoL you just finished the best part of the game and think that the rest is the same. Come say that bullshit once you finish the final battle where the boss doesn't spawn lol.

 

[Old Hans]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Keep in mind Solasta is not a good representation of 5E. It not only doesn't have all the classes, but also the actual character building.

from what I recall pathfinder was just a lot of "add +1 to X" for most of my character level ups. I wouldn't really call that great

 

[Tacgnol]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Keep in mind Solasta is not a good representation of 5E. It not only doesn't have all the classes, but also the actual character building.

from what I recall pathfinder was just a lot of "add +1 to X" for most of my character level ups. I wouldn't really call that great

Depends on the class. Take Barbarians for example. A rage power every 2 levels (or can swap a feat choice for another rage power).

Rage powers cover everything from gaining flight, fighting better whilst drunk, to bite attacks and rerolling saves.

Even basic fighter gets weapon and armour advanced training which cover everything from passive bonuses to allowing you to make a free shield bash and bullrush cm on every attack.

Everyone has preferences at the end of the day, but I found Solasta level ups of just getting more HP most of the time to be quite boring.

 

[Desiderius]

Everyone has preferences but only in Pathfinder do some people prefer to only play 10% of the game then mistake their own suckage for anything having to do with this ruleset then feel compelled to advertise said suckage to the world.

I stopped playing Solasta after the dev came by to insult me but I don’t then go on to complain that the game is too short because I only got three hours out of it.

They really should take out the +1 feats since they’re such an idiot trap most of the time.

 

[Parabalus]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Solasta is very refreshing compared to Pathfinder's autistic bonus stacking.

Better?

No, but a welcome change of pace, and a testament that you can have a decent system with way less variables.

LoL you just finished the best part of the game and think that the rest is the same. Come say that bullshit once you finish the final battle where the boss doesn't spawn lol.

If that was the best part prob a good idea to uninstall, thanks.

Doesn't have much to do with the 5E system though.

Everyone has preferences but only in Pathfinder do some people prefer to only play 10% of the game then mistake their own suckage for anything having to do with this ruleset then feel compelled to advertise said suckage to the world.

I stopped playing Solasta after the dev came by to insult me but I don’t then go on to complain that the game is too short because I only got three hours out of it.

They really should take out the +1 feats since they’re such an idiot trap most of the time.

PF having so many options just exploring 10% of them is a huge investment.

Usually people find something that works and stick with it.

 

[Goldschmidt]

I am not a fan of turn based in computer games as you can just better play a real boardgame instead. But this game offers a third dimension on the battlefield which does sets its apart from its real flat counterpart.

 

[Thac0]

32 ac

20 from Heavy Plate +2
24 from Shield +2
26 from Inquisitor Ring (+2)
28 from Tunnel Fighter subclass (+2)
29 from generic ring of protection +1
30 from cloak of protection +1
31 from Wardenblade +1
32 from Fighting Style Protection +1

Noice, that is functionally invincible. Even on Cataclysm nothing strikes above +15.
Most of that is Solasta's fault tbh. 5e is balanced for zero magical bonusses to AC and barely any bonusses from subclasses. The best thing a fighter tank can do in 5e is 21. Sure some DMs give out some boosts to AC, but I have never seen an AC above 25 on a player character outside of the completely busted Bladesinger subclass. There is a reason shields +x, rings +x and cloaks +x are listed as game breaking in the sane magic item prices lists for 5e.

my shadow tamer with proper favored enemy setup was the one outdamaging everyone in a long run - clearly nothing can beat paladin smites short burst.

Yeah Ranger is a weird class in this game. The Hunter is middle of the road, will perform adequately in most parties. The Sniper is bad, among the worst subclasses in the game. The Shadow Tamer is busted, among the best classes in the game, since he permanently gets his proficiency bonus to hit and damage against all threatening enemies. That is a permanent magical +2/+4 magic weapon bonus.

 

[lukaszek]

32 ac

20 from Heavy Plate +2
24 from Shield +2
26 from Inquisitor Ring (+2)
28 from Tunnel Fighter subclass (+2)
29 from generic ring of protection +1
30 from cloak of protection +1
31 from Wardenblade +1
32 from Fighting Style Protection +1

Noice, that is functionally invincible. Even on Cataclysm nothing strikes above +15.

actually without cloak and wardenblade. Instead I had motherland paladin aura and that +1 AC armor master feat.

So technical highest would be 34... unless you wear that chainclothshirt I wasnt able to craft and have 22dex(thanks to tome). Then you would have even 2 more, so 36. Would barkskin work too?

there is also limited time shield of faith spell, can temp raise it to 38 but must sustain so its annoying

If you want highest number of 2hf, with that cloth armor and bracers of defense, you would go down to 31

Most of that is Solasta's fault tbh. 5e is balanced for zero magical bonusses to AC and barely any bonusses from subclasses. The best thing a fighter tank can do in 5e is 21. Sure some DMs give out some boosts to AC, but I have never seen an AC above 25 on a player character outside of the completely busted Bladesinger subclass. There is a reason shields +x, rings +x and cloaks +x are listed as game breaking in the sane magic item prices lists for 5e.

i was quite surprised to learn that ac bonuses stack. 1 day obtained 2nd ring and since had free attunement slot open, tested it out

 

[NJClaw]

So technical highest would be 34... unless you wear that chainclothshirt I wasnt able to craft and have 22dex(thanks to tome). Then you would have even 2 more, so 36. Would barkskin work too?

You can also get a +1 from your friendly War Cleric's aura.

Barkskin only sets your AC to 16 and does nothing if it's already better than that.

If you want to count temporary bonuses, there's also Haste for another +2.

 

[Thac0]

22dex(thanks to tome)

Tomes stack infinitely and are able to be farmed of random drops actually, I have seen screenshots of 50 AC characters through that. So you would have to calculate with 20 base as for chainshirt +5 dex.
Barkskin does not work. Haste gives +2 AC aswell tho if you also count Shield of Faith.

But one wants the cloak of blur in the cloak slot anyway, because it is hilariously OP. You can get AC so high that you need crits to hit you, and if the enemy rolls with disadvantage he has only 5% x 5% chance to hit you, 1 in 400.

 

[Shrimp]

How long is the game after you obtain the second gem? I remember it was where the early accession version ended when I played it a long time ago and I just caught up to that point in my current playthrough.

Game's still pretty rough around the edges in spite of it being officially released; in my most recent battle I had disadvantage instead of advantage when attacking prone enemies, Bane increased enemy rolls instead of decreasing them. I also got a tome that I'm apparently supposed to be able to read to gain attribute points, but the only option the item has is to drop it on the floor. I googled it and apparently it's a known bug that has been affecting other people as well.

 

[lukaszek]

You can also get a +1 from your friendly War Cleric's aura.

completly forgot about this one! At first I rolled one then started over with paladin instead since I didnt need to heal up so often and could get same ac bonus...

 

[Thonius]

5E is a good ruleset.

The whole time I was playing Solasta, all I could really think was "this would be way more fun with Pathfinder rules".

Keep in mind Solasta is not a good representation of 5E. It not only doesn't have all the classes, but also the actual character building.

from what I recall pathfinder was just a lot of "add +1 to X" for most of my character level ups. I wouldn't really call that great

Gazilion of feats to support any type of build. Wanna do claw attacks? You can do it. Wanna be Commba manevour dude, you got it etc etc.

 

[V_K]

How long is the game after you obtain the second gem? I remember it was where the early accession version ended when I played it a long time ago and I just caught up to that point in my current playthrough.

There are two more gems and the endgame. Plus side quests.

 

[rojay]

Man, that's awesome you guys figured out a way to break the game and end up with AC over 30. I finished it with three characters at 22 or so and one at 20 and there were some challenging encounters but I finished it and had a good time doing so. Not a perfect game but looking forward to what else comes out of it.

But thank you guys for doing the hard work of playing the game that way so that we all know how high you can get your AC and make every encounter trivial. Your sacrifice is not in vain.

 

[Grampy_Bone]

Pathfinder gives you 15 different ways to take a level of monk + crane wing + shatter defenses.

Solasta lets you miss miss miss miss miss miss miss oh whoops he was one tile outside of the light radius cast light miss miss miss miss miss miss...

*sigh* NWN2 is such a low bar to clear and yet, here we are...

 

[Lhynn]

Man, that's awesome you guys figured out a way to break the game and end up with AC over 30. I finished it with three characters at 22 or so and one at 20 and there were some challenging encounters but I finished it and had a good time doing so. Not a perfect game but looking forward to what else comes out of it.

But thank you guys for doing the hard work of playing the game that way so that we all know how high you can get your AC and make every encounter trivial. Your sacrifice is not in vain.

Dont think having high AC trivializes every encounter. That fighter bonus wont be of much help against several enemies, as a large number of fights are in open spaces. Using a shield also keeps you from using a two hander, or two weapons, so thats a d6, a d4+str or a d8+str/dex less of damage. This is a massive loss of damage.

Then theres the saving throws, fighters suck at reflexes, so a variety of cantrips will pelt them.
Finally, like half the encounters in the game will be in the wilds, and if you dont have a ranger you will get surprised more often than not, this means you will get surrounded and wont have the chance to "Tank for your party."

Though i guess mountaineer does get pretty great if he can trip enemies for your melee dps and summons.

 

[lukaszek]

Then theres the saving throws, fighters suck at reflexes, so a variety of cantrips will pelt them.

mages seem to be quite rare... and even if there are any -> thanks to opportunity attacks being so meh its easy to take them down quickly. Or just snipe them down. Or just soak some dmg, my dworf had 120+hp after all.
Dex saves were actually high thanks to paladin aura. If I felt like its needed id take dex feat that gives prof with dex saves... but I couldnt care.

Though i guess mountaineer does get pretty great if he can trip enemies for your melee dps and summons.

Very rarely you do so, it got opposite effect on ranged party members and enemies got low ac anyway. Swap places or pushes I did execute quite often. Pushing off platforms is like 90% of what this game got to offer.


oh and regarding game being trivial once you hit lvl5, I just realized that its also about dungeons exploration. Cool hidden areas that you need to cleverly jump to seem to be gone. Even if they existed they get trivial when your party members climb on the walls and fly