KickStarter Solasta Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Nortar]

The only reason you're here is because you got butt hurt at people thinking your coveted bg3 was out shined by some indie game.

You do realize Solasta and BG3 are essentially the same game with different content, right?

Same game because they are both somewhat based on 5E?
"Somewhat" as one uses SRD and another was homeruled by Sven like turtle by god.
Well, in this case they are the "same game" as that upcoming Dark Alliance arcade co-op shit too.

 

[Lacrymas]

They are entirely based on 5E, the differences are minuscule (mostly subclasses and some spells). Swen's homebrew shit is going to be promptly modded out if he refuses to take it out before release.

 

[Thac0]

They are entirely based on 5E, the differences are minuscule (mostly subclasses and some spells). Swen's homebrew shit is going to be promptly modded out if he refuses to take it out before release.

I have not played terribly much Solasta since I am still unsure if I want to refund it and wait for a much deeper sale or keep, hope it gets better when it is finished, and does not drop in price from the 28€ I paid.

But the gameplay feeling between both games is very different. Solasta keeps your power tight with fewer magical items, fewer classes, no multiclassing, and no weird changes like super OP familar summons. BG3 lets you break the game wide open.
Solasta has quite a few computer generated random encounters, and even the fixed encounters feel random generated. In BG3 all encounters are way too easy and feel hand crafted.

The games are two very different takes on the 5e formula. And sadly Solasta is not very good at its take in its current state. But I am patient and the devs do not seem completely incompetent despite some baffling design decisions.

 

[Cryomancer]

The only reason you're here is because you got butt hurt at people thinking your coveted bg3 was out shined by some indie game.

You do realize Solasta and BG3 are essentially the same game with different content, right?

What? Solasta has no HP bloat, a better UI, more vertifcality and is a much better game.

 

[Nortar]

They are entirely based on 5E, the differences are minuscule (mostly subclasses and some spells).

Maybe for someone who does not really know how long it takes to cast a spell it's all the same, yeah.

Like this "not a DnD newbie" from Solasta discord:

 

[Lacrymas]

I'm sorry you are all biased and can't handle what I'm saying.

HP "bloat" and AC - the DM is ultimately the one who determines how much HP a mob has. The values in BG3 aren't even above the suggested range in the Monster Manual.

 

[Darth Canoli]

Maybe for someone who does not really know how long it takes to cast a spell it's all the same, yeah.

Like this "not a DnD newbie" from Solasta discord:

Did you have to hide the codexer's name?
Who is it by the way?
I'm suspecting Jasede or Darth Roxor ...

 

[Darth Roxor]

Darth Roxor absorbs the above user's butthurt to regain 4d6 HP.

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

Isn't that quite a lot of butt to absorb?

 

[Darth Canoli]

Darth Roxor absorbs the above user's butthurt to regain 4d6 HP.

You can't, lel, your mage doesn't even have that much max HP...

 

[V_K]

Isn't that quite a lot of butt to absorb?

He's the Wielder of the Huegpenis, he can't have less butt.

 

[Dodo1610]

Why does the Codex suddenly defend a game that: has bad full voice acting, lots of bad cutscenes, cringy writing, very limited build options, is completly linear with barely any CC.
Solasta isn't bad it lacks a clear game direction. It's a forgettable RPG and it fails as a dungeon crawler by disrupting the flow of combat gameplay with annoying cutscenes and dialogue.
As it stands WOTR is going to be the better dungeon crawler and BG 3 is going to be a much better roleplaying game.

 

[Lacrymas]

I expect a furious inquisition against Thac0 and Dodo1610 for they have dared to insult the sacred artifact that is Solasta. Just as I have.

 

[V_K]

Nah, too early. We're very liberal here - everyone gets a pass the first 50 times.

 

[Thac0]

Why does the Codex suddenly defend a game that: has bad full voice acting, lots of bad cutscenes, cringy writing, very limited build options, is completly linear with barely any CC.
Solasta isn't bad it lacks a clear game direction. It's a forgettable RPG and it fails as a dungeon crawler by disrupting the flow of combat gameplay with annoying cutscenes and dialogue.
As it stands WOTR is going to be the better dungeon crawler and BG 3 is going to be a much better roleplaying game.

It is not that unusual. Whenever a shitstorm happens against a certain game company sometimes a developer manages to get that wind under its wings and champion itself as the anti product, even if they are technically not in the same league.
Literally the only reason people know that Greedfall exists is that Bioware had a shitstorm (with Andromeda or so? I do not follow news about that shovelware studio), and Spiders' jank was championed as the anti Bioware game.
People are pissed at BG3 because it is colourfull, modern and Larian, so they championed Solasta which looks much more like the usual slavjank.

The rational thing to do is keep a level head and not fall for any hype. I have not played enough Solasta to really have a strong opinion on it, but judging from what I have played that game could need a lot less mindless hype and some more criticism. It is much more flawed than BG3 in its current state. Then again it also operates on less of a budget and will probably be in Early Access for longer.

 

[Dorateen]

It's an anti-biodrone role-playing game. That's what Solasta has going for it.

 

[Lacrymas]

Nah, too early. We're very liberal here - everyone gets a pass the first 50 times.

Nah, it's fine, go all out. I want to see it.

 

[Cryomancer]

lots of bad cutscenes, cringy writing, very limited build options, is completly linear with barely any CC.

Because the game proposes to have fun combat, verticality and nails it. I honestly don't think that is good as PFKM. But how many RPG's allow me to cast fly and reach a specific part of the map? We need to judge a game according to his proposal. If solasta was named "neverwinter nights 3" and proposed to be a sequel, I would criticize it. But Solasta never promised a MoTB style campaign.

People are pissed at BG3 because it is colourfull, modern and Larian, so they championed Solasta which looks much more like the usual slavjank.

The game is French, not made in any Slavic country. And honestly, the best RPG's coming out are "slavjank". The unique decent TTRPG adaptation of the last decade come from Russia.

It is much more flawed than BG3 in its current state.

Try it. But both on steam are with "very positive" reviews.

The difference is that the "homebrew" stuff from solasta like the cleric and wizard subclass are great. The homebrew stuff from bg3, awful.

 

[Grunker]

Nah, too early. We're very liberal here - everyone gets a pass the first 50 times.

Nah, it's fine, go all out. I want to see it.

come on man, that was funny

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Myzzrym What is your CEO's stand on barbarians?

 

[Bara]

Well for now their stance on Barbarians is that they're non-existent.

Least until subsequent maybe future I hope so dlc/expansion/sequel.

 

[fantadomat]

Myzzrym What is your CEO's stand on barbarians?

Not good as elfs

 

[ERYFKRAD]

Myzzrym What is your CEO's stand on barbarians?

Not good as elfs

His stand on elves can be whatever as long as he kills them all.

 

[V_K]

In Solasta's world, elves were natives and humans were immigrants, so of course they genocided all the barbarians.

 

[vortex]

My elf mage snaps fingers and turns mad barbarians into stone before they unsheathe swords.