Starfield Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[JamesDixon]

jesus christ this game is fucking huge, I haven't even scratched the surface it seems

Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle?

That's an awfully shallow puddle.

 

[Gargaune]

Ahaha the random encounters in this game rock. Just met two freighter captains having a Mac vs PC argument about two ship companies. The player can come in and aggro them both by fanatically advocating for a third company they both hate.

"BG3 is the best!"
"No, Starfield's the best!"
"'Sup, guys, excited for Phantom Liberty?"

 

[Vic]

jesus christ this game is fucking huge, I haven't even scratched the surface it seems

Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle?

that's cyberpunk

starfield is huge in terms of all the content and mechanics they put in there, and almost none of it is explained

 

[Grauken]

Shills in thread: "IT is actually better written game than rest of their games"

Reality: In one of missions you board Crimson Fleet HQ and meet their accountant which tells you directly on first meeting that he has a bomb on his chest and if he dies Crimson Fleet is fucked and then proceeds to explain for next 10 minutes how important he is to live.

I haven't seen anyone compliment the writing yet, though maybe I have overlooked that. Mostly Vic and some others talking about the stuff they can do

 

[Mark.L.Joy]

Guyz im playin starfield, it looks pretty good

Spoiler

but without spess combat

The standards haven gotten so low that oblivion looks like a flavourful fantasy RPG, I used to not even be able to look at it.

I'm getting scared.

 

[Vic]

Shills in thread: "IT is actually better written game than rest of their games"

Reality: In one of missions you board Crimson Fleet HQ and meet their accountant which tells you directly on first meeting that he has a bomb on his chest and if he dies Crimson Fleet is fucked and then proceeds to explain for next 10 minutes how important he is to live.

didn't you say you uninstalled the game?

 

[Reinhardt]

Ahaha the random encounters in this game rock. Just met two freighter captains having a Mac vs PC argument about two ship companies. The player can come in and aggro them both by fanatically advocating for a third company they both hate.

"BG3 is the best!"
"No, Starfield's the best!"
"'Sup, guys, excited for Phantom Liberty?"

"no, we only play rpg games"

 

[Decado]

Some people are playing this in the office right now. It just looks so fucking boring.

 

[Zombra]

I haven't seen anyone compliment the writing yet, though maybe I have overlooked that. Mostly Vic and some others talking about the stuff they can do

It's like every Bethesda game for the last several iterations, with some excellent writing in there for sure and some ... less so. When you have 85000 quests and 450 writers it can't all be gold but so far there hasn't been much that's truly bad. I definitely hate the first mission on a planet called Paradiso (the dialogue writing is fine but the C&C options are unfinished). For the most part I've been pleasantly surprised and truly wowed once or twice.

 

[Gargaune]

Some people are playing this in the office right now. It just looks so fucking boring.

"No, boss, we ain't slacking off, this is just the new Excel update."

 

[Vic]

Shills in thread: "IT is actually better written game than rest of their games"

Reality: In one of missions you board Crimson Fleet HQ and meet their accountant which tells you directly on first meeting that he has a bomb on his chest and if he dies Crimson Fleet is fucked and then proceeds to explain for next 10 minutes how important he is to live.

I haven't seen anyone compliment the writing yet, though maybe I have overlooked that. Mostly Vic and some others talking about the stuff they can do

there are some truly hilarious quests, I just haven't done that many. focusing on other stuff right now.

but it's definitely better written than all previous Bethesda Fallouts and Elder Scrolls from what I've seen so far. Main quest obviously blows all other main quests out of the water, but that is not hard to do.

 

[Perkel]

Shills in thread: "IT is actually better written game than rest of their games"

Reality: In one of missions you board Crimson Fleet HQ and meet their accountant which tells you directly on first meeting that he has a bomb on his chest and if he dies Crimson Fleet is fucked and then proceeds to explain for next 10 minutes how important he is to live.

didn't you say you uninstalled the game?

I did. Guess what i clocked some hours and played it before doing so.
Probably will reinstall it at some point when people will dejunk it enough though.

And before you go "wah wah he is betsheda hater" I was one of few dudes who defended F4 here. IT wasn't good rpg but it was pretty good sandbox looter shooter.

Something which Starfield isn't. So not only it is not great RPG but also it is not great sandbox XYZ either.

 

[Heroic Liberator]

Who's that blonde chick in her late 30s everyone is posting on screens?
Main character's mom?

first companion after the tutorial robot, my choice is Andreja tho

Best girl.

 

[Vic]

starfield chads busy playing the game while the haters cope and seethe in this thread

 

[jaydee2k]

Shills in thread: "IT is actually better written game than rest of their games"

Reality: In one of missions you board Crimson Fleet HQ and meet their accountant which tells you directly on first meeting that he has a bomb on his chest and if he dies Crimson Fleet is fucked and then proceeds to explain for next 10 minutes how important he is to live.

didn't you say you uninstalled the game?

You must be a paid spam bot from north korean gulag. Fingers crossed that Todd keeps paying for your service that you don't get shot.

 

[Zariusz]

Who's that blonde chick in her late 30s everyone is posting on screens?
Main character's mom?

first companion after the tutorial robot, my choice is Andreja tho

She has that space Lydia 2.0 look.

 

[Vic]

And before you go "wah wah he is betsheda hater" I was one of few dudes who defended F4 here. IT wasn't good rpg but it was pretty good sandbox looter shooter.

Something which Starfield isn't. So not only it is not great RPG but also it is not great sandbox XYZ either.

that's because Starfield doesn't explain all the mechanics, it has a LOT going on but they just put it all in the game, gave you your starship and said ok, you're on your own

that's why everybody is saying you need to play the game more until it clicks

I suggest doing the main quest until you finish "Into the Unknown" at least

 

[Naraya]

starfield chads busy playing the game while the haters cope and seethe in this thread

I'm busy hatin'!

 

[AwesomeButton]

Guyz im playin starfield, it looks pretty good

Spoiler

but without spess combat
...

If this was released today, people would still hail it: "It's got Bethesda charm", just as long as it's a:

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The king is butt-naked.

Shills in thread: "IT is actually better written game than rest of their games"

Reality: In one of missions you board Crimson Fleet HQ and meet their accountant which tells you directly on first meeting that he has a bomb on his chest and if he dies Crimson Fleet is fucked and then proceeds to explain for next 10 minutes how important he is to live.

I haven't seen anyone compliment the writing yet, though maybe I have overlooked that. Mostly Vic and some others talking about the stuff they can do

The writing is excellent in a situation where you have an IRL enemy and you want to sap his will to live. Let him play the Akila main quest.

IDK. I'll force myself to play Into the Unknown, but I really expect something substantial after that. (Inb4, it won't come to pass )

 

[Perkel]

And before you go "wah wah he is betsheda hater" I was one of few dudes who defended F4 here. IT wasn't good rpg but it was pretty good sandbox looter shooter.

Something which Starfield isn't. So not only it is not great RPG but also it is not great sandbox XYZ either.

that's because Starfield doesn't explain all the mechanics, it has a LOT going on but they just put it all in the game, gave you your starship and said ok, you're on your own

that's why everybody is saying you need to play the game more until it clicks

I suggest doing the main quest until you finish "Into the Unknown" at least

I finished into unknown before uninstalling it i had several of those faggy "powers" by then.
The problem with game being sandbox looter/shooter precisely comes from a fact that its features do not jive well together.
I never expected Bethesda game to be good RPG so i never went with that notion into game to begin with. I was there just to see if this is another Fallout 4 situation where it was terrible rpg but pretty good sandbox looter/shooter.

Main reason to play lootershooter games is to get tricked out in best gear creating builds etc.
The problem is that you have 100 version of spacesuits that all look the same. Which means there is nothing to trick out.
Exploration ? All planets are randomly generates slopes that make NMS look beautiful in comparison
Space ship part of game ? It is essentially useless piece of game as you can just grav out of any combat and you can't in fact fly anywhere as everything is just glorified loading screen.
Outpost building ? For what ? to make gear that looks the same ? To make better food that is still worse than shitty medpen and so on.

Like i said in my "review" it has many features but none of them work together. IT is essentially another NMS but with main story and some quest rather than just everything being randomly generated.

It is pretty typical modern "Let give features but don't tie them because someone might not like base building or exploration or XYZ". A crapshoot of features so that one of them might catch someone.

 

[Vic]

Vic, you're making my day. Your posting in here is hilarious. Love your enthusiasm, man. Never let others shit on what you enjoy.

they're just retarded, Jenkem wasn't even trolling, Todd truly created a masterpiece but he chose to just leave it all in the open for players to discover and not handhold them through all the stuff that is in the game. The steam forums are a fucking mess. Reddit was a fucking mess at launch, but now it turned around positively as people are starting to "get it".

 

[AwesomeButton]

The problem with game being sandbox looter/shooter precisely comes from a fact that its features do not jive well together.

Exactly same impression here. They've piled up all the systems they've developed since Oblivion (which in turn inherited from Morrowind ofc), but no one went through the trouble to make sure these systems will actually work in concert. The game somewhat resembles a huge modder undertaking in the way it lacks direction. The thematically incoherent main hubs - cyberpunk city, cowboy city, futuristic utopia, etc, just rub salt on the wound. They are like cherry-picked from different games (which they are in terms of where the inspiration comes from).

The whole game is a magpie nest of shiny things plucked from other places, and piled together, because each of them looked cool separately.

 

[Perkel]

I think Starfield is best summarized as No Man's Sky made by AAA developer with all its problems still there but bolted on top of that story + sidemissions with unique content.

Better version of NMS. If you hated NMS like me then naturally you will hate it too. If you liked NMS then you will probably like Starfield. It is definitely not a game for RPG fan or Space Sim fan.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I think Starfield is best summarized as No Man's Sky made by AAA developer with all it's problems not fixed but bolted on top of that story + sidemissions with unique content.

Better version of NMS. If you hated NMS like me then naturally you will hate it too.

No! I was thinking about exactly this just minutes ago - "This game has no right calling itself a AAA game!" Even for Fallout 4, I could concede, but Starfield? Triple-A? No way. $70, do you imagine?

 

[Vic]

Main reason to play lootershooter games is to get tricked out in best gear creating builds etc.

Have you looked into the combat talent tree? You can do builds like in previous fallouts, focus on explosives, lasers, ballistics, sniper, melee. there are certain affixes which suit well for certain playstyles like an instigating sniper rifle, which does double damage to targets at full health

The problem is that you have 100 version of spacesuits that all look the same. Which means there is nothing to trick out.

they may look the same but there are different affixes for them... have you heard of the mantis suit?

Exploration ? All planets are randomly generates slopes that make NMS look beautiful in comparison

You do not explore on foot but on your spaceship, don't waste your time walking around, just look at what points of interest you can see from space and then explore those. You also get random events as you enter orbit. There is a lot to discover, if you don't waste time walking across empty planets.

Space ship part of game ? It is essentially useless piece of game as you can just grav out of any combat and you can't in fact fly anywhere as everything is just glorified loading screen.

As said above, you need your space ship for exploration. you can't fly between planets, that is true, but space exploration is not that bad actually with random events and locations you can find in orbit like space bases or wreckages. You can talk with other spaceships and they share with you gossip or trade. You will also need your spaceship for cargo hauling missions and space combat missions that require you to kill another space ship. I haven't done much space ship stuff tbh yet but I'm starting to like it now.

Outpost building ? For what ? to make gear that looks the same ? To make better food that is still worse than shitty medpen and so on.

There is a reason for outpost building which will become apparent if you do more exploration of the game.