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Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread

Discussion in 'BioWare' started by Sunsetspawn, Feb 21, 2013.

  1. Dzupakazul Arbiter

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    No, why? You don't get to switch Cernd to a Cleric just because Insect Plague gets nerfed by the Fireshield component. Inquisitors still get True Sight, innate immunities, access to the Sword of On-Hit Dispel, and with time, their Dispel Magic still ramps up and is instantly cast. Note that even that component is modular and you can either choose a 1x or 1,5x rating, in the latter case the nerf is much less of a problem.

    Sure, but until SCS was mentioned I kept the discussion purely vanilla.

    Not quite. Let's take Firkraag. Firkraag is level 23. Keldorn's increasing his chances to dispel him significantly past level 12, which is 1,200,000 XP. To dispel Firkraag with the same chances, the Bard needs level 24, which is 3,080,000.

    Dispel is capped at level 30. Weapons like Carsomyr and Staff of the Magi hit as if they were level 30 dispellers, too.

    EDIT: Actually, Dispel doesn't seem to be capped at all. I used the baseline of Carsomyr / SotM thinking it's the max, but really, when it comes to Dispel / Remove Magic, only your caster level matters, nothing else. If you're a level 40 caster, it seems your Dispel / Remove will also be level 40. The level 20 cap on caster level only applies to spell durations and max damage from spells like Skull Trap, but Dispel Magic doesn't run off a caster level cap; it's directly looking at your levels relative to the target's caster levels.
     
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  2. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Because it's the only part of the kit that's actually important and it gives up a lot to get it.
    Probably right, been a while since I've even thought about this stuff. I know a bunch gets capped at 20, and Inquisitor has the highest dispel level possible.

    actually, does dispel get capped at all? If so, then they were right about bards being the second best dispeller.
     
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  3. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Keldorn will eventually fight any Evil character. Those who want to romance Viconia would do well to either keep Keldorn out of the party or slap a helm of opposite alignment on Viconia.
     
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  4. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Inquisitor basically out-dispels everyone because of the doubling effect. So, unless he is half your level, he will be a better dispeller than you. He will definitely be the best dispeller once you are half way to level cap because literally no one else can get caster levels higher than him for dispel.
     
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  5. Dzupakazul Arbiter

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    I recommend not installing the component or using other means to change Keldorn to a Cavalier in that case. I think the 1.5x dispel is still solid, personally.
    It doesn't; see the EDIT.

    He won't. He fights Edwin and Viconia. That's half of the available evil characters in the game; he has no qualms whatsoever with Korgan and Sarevok. Keldorn also won't attack an Evil Player Character solely on the basis of what their character sheet says. This was explicitly in the post you're quoting. In the Enhanced Edition, Keldorn doesn't even want to kill Dorn if you join them after doing Dorn's quests that involve killing righteous people; Keldorn only leaves the party if you accept Dorn's quests, but not afterwards.
    There's no Helmet of Opposite Alignment in BG2. Furthermore, Keldorn's conflict with Viconia isn't triggered by any alignment flag, it's just hardcoded into the game as a vitriolic interaction between these two characters. Changing Viconia's alignment wouldn't do anything.
     
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  6. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Keldorn merely being within 10 miles of Dorn should make him want to kill Dorn.
    pop open cluaconsole and use createitem with HELM02 of course.
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    I don't consider it cheating if I already obtained it in BG1 to begin with.
     
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  7. rusty_shackleford Arcane

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    Just made me realize a big downside to dual/multi classing casters people never discuss is how much easier it makes your buffs to dispel.
    Also, bard buffs should be really hard to dispel.
     
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  8. Nano Prestigious Gentleman Arcane Patron

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    You'd think Keldorn would cast Detect Evil before pledging himself to Charname's service.
     
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  9. Dzupakazul Arbiter

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    Bit less of an issue considering SCS mages mostly also use spells like Breach a lot, and that arcane casters already lean on Spell Immunity: Abjuration for this eventuality.
     
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  10. Cael Dumbfuck! Dumbfuck

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    Dorn gets a free pass because he is cuckdog's homosexual cumstain. He also gets a free pass because cuckdog are crap programmers and most likely forgot to code in a check for Keldorn getting huffy when you kill innocents. In other words, it's all cuckdog being cuckdog.

    As for the rest, it sounds like BG2 dropped the ball. In BG, I believe Ajantis will eventually pick a fight with just about any Evil NPC. I am not sure simply because I never recruited him as I can't stand him.
     
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  11. Gargaune Scholar

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    Yes, that sounds sensible. I'd prefer to let the scene play out, let the dice fall where they may and all that, but if I find their mere presence prevents the trade from going through, I could just savescum and do some prophylactic killing.

    You would, but he didn't. :smug:
     
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  12. Lagole Gon Arcane Patron

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  13. Lonely Vazdru Pimp my Title

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    Them japs sure know how to hold a grudge, don't they ?
     
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  14. Tyranicon A Memory of Eternity Developer

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    I thought this was the beginning to wonderful hentai and I got disappointed.
     
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  15. Bara Erudite

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    This is mean to say but I can't phrase it any other way.

    If you wish to downgrade your baldur's gate 2 experience the guy who ported baldurs gate 1 to never winter nights 2 is doing the same for BG2 now.



    I mean I can respect his commitment and guess this lets you play with more classes/races now but controlling a party in that game just feels so clunky when compared to IE games.
     
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  16. Sardine Dev Poster Literate

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    I wonder if a baldur's gate 1 review would catch traction on youtube if released on the 30th, the same day Baldur's Gate 3 is set to be released?
     
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  17. Diablo1_reborn Busin 0 Wizardry Alternative Neo fanatic Patron

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    What a sight to behold!
     
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  18. Ninjerk Arcane

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    Having it ready wouldn't hurt.
     
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  19. Chippy Arcane

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    Nvidia cards don'y play well with the original BG do they?. There's pages of problems like this one: https://blog.yimingliu.com/2008/04/...h-and-disabling-nvidia-hardware-acceleration/ and various fixes that disable hardware acceleration and all that.

    I bought a budget Geforce GT 1030 as a backup for running all my old games, and now realising it may have been a mistake. I've goy wyverns that are displayed split in half, arrows that fly facing 45 degrees to their target, birds flying backwards...

    I usually turn all 3d effcts off, and then everything on, but I thihnk it's just down to Nvidia.
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  20. bec de corbin Educated

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    You might try using DGvoodoo, if you're having graphics issues.
     
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  21. Funposter Liturgist

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    cute!
     
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  22. Chippy Arcane

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    Many thanks sir! That worked and solved all problems. :salute:
    Can't believe I didn't know that program existed. I might even consider getting rid of my old 98se PC, and my XP one as well now...

    Edit: Ok, maybe not. But that's some amazing software. Using V7 for anyone else interested. Previous version didn't seem to launch. Maybe the settings were off. But V7 just worked.
     
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  23. Mr. Magniloquent Liturgist

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    In retrospect, the music to Throne of Bhaal is much better than I remember. It thought it a little too bombastic when I first played it nearly two decades ago, but listening to some of the OST recently has changed my mind. The sweeping grandeur is appropriate for the events and setting of ToB while simply being quite good on its own operatic merits.
     
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  24. pomenitul Savant

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    I never tire of hearing this piece:

     
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  25. Jedi Master Radek Arcane

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    Interesting thing about Throne of Bhaal is how Bioware was trying to improve its quest design. There are at least 2 quests which can be solved by using a spell in a non combat way. Getting into monastery can be archived by like 3 ways. There is a liche quest with multiple solutions. It's super sad that ToB didn't get to be a full game.
     
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