Baldur's Gate The Baldur's Gate Series Thread

[rusty_shackleford]

No, why?

Because it's the only part of the kit that's actually important and it gives up a lot to get it.

Dispel is capped at level 30.

Probably right, been a while since I've even thought about this stuff. I know a bunch gets capped at 20, and Inquisitor has the highest dispel level possible.

actually, does dispel get capped at all? If so, then they were right about bards being the second best dispeller.

 

[Cael]

Keldorn is a Paladin. There are rules against Paladins and Evil characters in a party.

Solution: Don't play Evil.

There is nothing remotely as explicit in the Baldur's Gate games. Not only does no one in your party care about what your main character's alignment is because it's mostly window dressing, Keldorn himself has a tolerable relationship with Korgan and has no issue fighting alongside Sarevok, Mazzy has vitriol towards evil but doesn't outright break a party - with vanilla evil companions, at least - and Aerie can only potentially be ran off the party by Korgan, or attacked by Chaotic Neutral Anomen.

Keldorn will eventually fight any Evil character. Those who want to romance Viconia would do well to either keep Keldorn out of the party or slap a helm of opposite alignment on Viconia.

 

[Cael]

No, why?

Because it's the only part of the kit that's actually important and it gives up a lot to get it.

Dispel is capped at level 30.

Probably right, been a while since I've even thought about this stuff. I know a bunch gets capped at 20, and Inquisitor has the highest dispel level possible.

actually, does dispel get capped at all? If so, then they were right about bards being the second best dispeller.

Inquisitor basically out-dispels everyone because of the doubling effect. So, unless he is half your level, he will be a better dispeller than you. He will definitely be the best dispeller once you are half way to level cap because literally no one else can get caster levels higher than him for dispel.

 

[Dzupakazul]

No, why?

Because it's the only part of the kit that's actually important.

I recommend not installing the component or using other means to change Keldorn to a Cavalier in that case. I think the 1.5x dispel is still solid, personally.

actually, does dispel get capped at all?

It doesn't; see the EDIT.

Keldorn will eventually fight any Evil character.

He won't. He fights Edwin and Viconia. That's half of the available evil characters in the game; he has no qualms whatsoever with Korgan and Sarevok. Keldorn also won't attack an Evil Player Character solely on the basis of what their character sheet says. This was explicitly in the post you're quoting. In the Enhanced Edition, Keldorn doesn't even want to kill Dorn if you join them after doing Dorn's quests that involve killing righteous people; Keldorn only leaves the party if you accept Dorn's quests, but not afterwards.

Those who want to romance Viconia would do well to either keep Keldorn out of the party or slap a helm of opposite alignment on Viconia.

There's no Helmet of Opposite Alignment in BG2. Furthermore, Keldorn's conflict with Viconia isn't triggered by any alignment flag, it's just hardcoded into the game as a vitriolic interaction between these two characters. Changing Viconia's alignment wouldn't do anything.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Keldorn doesn't even want to kill Dorn

Keldorn merely being within 10 miles of Dorn should make him want to kill Dorn.

Helmet of Opposite Alignment

pop open cluaconsole and use createitem with HELM02 of course.

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I don't consider it cheating if I already obtained it in BG1 to begin with.

 

[rusty_shackleford]

EDIT: Actually, Dispel doesn't seem to be capped at all. I used the baseline of Carsomyr / SotM thinking it's the max, but really, when it comes to Dispel / Remove Magic, only your caster level matters, nothing else. If you're a level 40 caster, it seems your Dispel / Remove will also be level 40. The level 20 cap on caster level only applies to spell durations and max damage from spells like Skull Trap, but Dispel Magic doesn't run off a caster level cap; it's directly looking at your levels relative to the target's caster levels.

Just made me realize a big downside to dual/multi classing casters people never discuss is how much easier it makes your buffs to dispel.
Also, bard buffs should be really hard to dispel.

 

[Nano]

You'd think Keldorn would cast Detect Evil before pledging himself to Charname's service.

 

[Dzupakazul]

Just made me realize a big downside to dual/multi classing casters people never discuss is how much easier it makes your buffs to dispel.
Also, bard buffs should be really hard to dispel.

Bit less of an issue considering SCS mages mostly also use spells like Breach a lot, and that arcane casters already lean on Spell Immunity: Abjuration for this eventuality.

 

[Cael]

No, why?

Because it's the only part of the kit that's actually important.

I recommend not installing the component or using other means to change Keldorn to a Cavalier in that case. I think the 1.5x dispel is still solid, personally.

actually, does dispel get capped at all?

It doesn't; see the EDIT.

Keldorn will eventually fight any Evil character.

He won't. He fights Edwin and Viconia. That's half of the available evil characters in the game; he has no qualms whatsoever with Korgan and Sarevok. Keldorn also won't attack an Evil Player Character solely on the basis of what their character sheet says. This was explicitly in the post you're quoting. In the Enhanced Edition, Keldorn doesn't even want to kill Dorn if you join them after doing Dorn's quests that involve killing righteous people; Keldorn only leaves the party if you accept Dorn's quests, but not afterwards.

Those who want to romance Viconia would do well to either keep Keldorn out of the party or slap a helm of opposite alignment on Viconia.

There's no Helmet of Opposite Alignment in BG2. Furthermore, Keldorn's conflict with Viconia isn't triggered by any alignment flag, it's just hardcoded into the game as a vitriolic interaction between these two characters. Changing Viconia's alignment wouldn't do anything.

Dorn gets a free pass because he is cuckdog's homosexual cumstain. He also gets a free pass because cuckdog are crap programmers and most likely forgot to code in a check for Keldorn getting huffy when you kill innocents. In other words, it's all cuckdog being cuckdog.

As for the rest, it sounds like BG2 dropped the ball. In BG, I believe Ajantis will eventually pick a fight with just about any Evil NPC. I am not sure simply because I never recruited him as I can't stand him.

 

[Gargaune]

The easiest way to try and have your cake and eat it too would be to kill off possible offended NPCs (Mazzy is likely one) and resurrect them after the deed is done.

Yes, that sounds sensible. I'd prefer to let the scene play out, let the dice fall where they may and all that, but if I find their mere presence prevents the trade from going through, I could just savescum and do some prophylactic killing.

You'd think Keldorn would cast Detect Evil before pledging himself to Charname's service.

You would, but he didn't.

 

[Lagole Gon]

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[Lonely Vazdru]

Them japs sure know how to hold a grudge, don't they ?

 

[Tyranicon]

Them japs sure know how to hold a grudge, don't they ?

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I thought this was the beginning to wonderful hentai and I got disappointed.

 

[Bara]

This is mean to say but I can't phrase it any other way.

If you wish to downgrade your baldur's gate 2 experience the guy who ported baldurs gate 1 to never winter nights 2 is doing the same for BG2 now.



I mean I can respect his commitment and guess this lets you play with more classes/races now but controlling a party in that game just feels so clunky when compared to IE games.

 

[Sardine Dev Poster]

I wonder if a baldur's gate 1 review would catch traction on youtube if released on the 30th, the same day Baldur's Gate 3 is set to be released?

 

[d1r]

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What a sight to behold!

 

[Ninjerk]

I wonder if a baldur's gate 1 review would catch traction on youtube if released on the 30th, the same day Baldur's Gate 3 is set to be released?

Having it ready wouldn't hurt.

 

[Chippy]

Nvidia cards don'y play well with the original BG do they?. There's pages of problems like this one: https://blog.yimingliu.com/2008/04/...h-and-disabling-nvidia-hardware-acceleration/ and various fixes that disable hardware acceleration and all that.

I bought a budget Geforce GT 1030 as a backup for running all my old games, and now realising it may have been a mistake. I've goy wyverns that are displayed split in half, arrows that fly facing 45 degrees to their target, birds flying backwards...

I usually turn all 3d effcts off, and then everything on, but I thihnk it's just down to Nvidia.

 

[bec de corbin]

You might try using DGvoodoo, if you're having graphics issues.

 

[Funposter]

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cute!

 

[Chippy]

You might try using DGvoodoo, if you're having graphics issues.

Many thanks sir! That worked and solved all problems.
Can't believe I didn't know that program existed. I might even consider getting rid of my old 98se PC, and my XP one as well now...

Edit: Ok, maybe not. But that's some amazing software. Using V7 for anyone else interested. Previous version didn't seem to launch. Maybe the settings were off. But V7 just worked.

 

[Mr. Magniloquent]

In retrospect, the music to Throne of Bhaal is much better than I remember. It thought it a little too bombastic when I first played it nearly two decades ago, but listening to some of the OST recently has changed my mind. The sweeping grandeur is appropriate for the events and setting of ToB while simply being quite good on its own operatic merits.

 

[pomenitul]

I never tire of hearing this piece:

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Interesting thing about Throne of Bhaal is how Bioware was trying to improve its quest design. There are at least 2 quests which can be solved by using a spell in a non combat way. Getting into monastery can be archived by like 3 ways. There is a liche quest with multiple solutions. It's super sad that ToB didn't get to be a full game.

 

[ga♥]

What are those 2 quests that can be solved without combat?
Three ways to enter the monastery, you make it sound like its non-linear when its extremely linear.
ToB is reallly meh. I mean, I am happy it exists, but even the writing is pretty cringe (even the romances).

t. just fresh from a bg1+tosc+bg2+tob run.