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The Last Of Us 2 - now with protagonist-murdering trannies

KVVRR

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It's been fucking five years
Why do these people keep bringing up some overblown drama shit about literal nobodies like anybody's going to know what the fuck are they talking about except them and autists like me
 

Drakron

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It's been fucking five years
Why do these people keep bringing up some overblown drama shit about literal nobodies like anybody's going to know what the fuck are they talking about except them and autists like me

Because the GamerGate Bogeyman is a very easy stawman for deflection, in fact read the other tweets he made and it looks like its some kind of template were you just fill the blanks.
 

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https://kotaku.com/the-last-of-us-part-ii-the-kotaku-review-1844006193

It’s a visually beautiful game that feels distinct to play, and the story it tells and how it tells it, at the most basic level, certainly pushes the edges of what games have done before. None of those accomplishments elevated or redeemed it for me. Like the nature consuming Seattle, or the outbreak consuming humanity, its ugliness overshadowed everything else.

In which universe am I in that the Kotaku review is more reasonable and valid than everywhere else. wow. -_-
 

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norolim

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I don't dispute that maybe these guys have had genuine and sincere motivations for what they are doing

Except for the deconstruction of Joel, conspicuously similar to the deconstruction of Luke and Picard.

Not that hard to figure out why are all the woke authors doing this - to symbolically destroy the patriarchal past full of positive straight white male heroes. There's nothing sincere or genuine about that, they're not even upfront about it. It's slimy, stealthy and spiteful.

All the fans that still doesn't see what is being done to their favourite IPs are the biggest fools. Woke left is pissing in their mouths and calling it rain and they still dumbly wonder where is that sour taste in their mouth coming from.
However, I think there is something more than just ideology here, there is the ideology that works as a convenient excuse, however, notice that Cuckman lives on the shadow of Amy Hennig, also Rian Johnson is nothing next George Lucas, notice that these people live on the shadow of much better people and they have a desire to destroy those people legacy because they are aware they are impotent as creators, notice their burning desire to destroy but their impotence at creating, the death of old characters on this game isnt the worst thing about it but how all new characters are incredible shiet.

Cuckman cant contiue the story of the old character because that would require someone on the level of Amy Hennig and her team so his choices was to destroy her legacy to replace with his own, the problem is that his legacy is shiet.

Great story. Shame it's based on a false premise. Cuckman did in fact write Part 1 and was a creative director on that game. Apparently, he isn't completely talentless and is capable of writing a somewhat competent story and characters. The problem is, that's not what he was trying to do in Part 2. When making it, Cuckman was first and foremost preoccupied with conveying ideological messages and ticking off a checklist dictated by that ideology. One of those check marks was deconstructing the most significant representatives of the class enemy white patriarchy. This is not the approach you take, when you're trying to create a compelling story and well developed characters. it's what you do, to produce propaganda. So it's like cvv said: ideology and spite.
 

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We are in the midst of a cultural war, people who doesn't see it and claim this is about incompetent or mad writers or anecdotal doesn't understand the situation.

This is just a battle on it, but an important one. The enemy is so interested in Last of Us 2 because gaming is not totally rotten unlike films or other arenas, and it is a very popular, successful and well regarded franchise.

They want the average gamer to submit on this one to claim a lot of ground and increase their strength in all the industry from now on. They want the executives to perceive is more trouble than is worth to resist SJWs and progressive agenda, and follow the path of least resistance, or even that the gaming community want this content. And the situation will become worse and more frequent, it will NOT STOP here.

That's why is important to push hard on this: meme, review bomb, any tactic to signal the industry we are nastier than those degenerates. If you care about gaming.
 
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commie

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We are all having a good laugh at the memes, what a disaster this is and how the idiots who made this will probably never work again.

But lets not forget, probably a $100 million plus was spent on this. Loads of talent wasted. Same for all the other AAA trash games. And there is only so much investor money floating around funding these projects. This was $100 million that could have been spent to make something amazing.

I really hope this is the trigger for investors to not want any of these virtue signalling assholes use games a political propaganda, and will cause a purge in gaming studio ranks to bring back the actual talent and create more good old fashioned good games.
this game probably already turned a profit and the third game is already being planned

A bunch of people said the same thing about Andromeda when they were crowing about LUL LOOK AT THE SALES INCELS ANDROMEDA 2 COMING SOON.

Sony isn't going to thrown more money on this trash fire. They're going to do some NDA focus groups, find out the depth of the hatred that their previous fan base has for this game, and they'll quietly pull the plug. Probably with some crap about how the 'story is finished'.


Agree. The game will be profitable, just like the last Bioware/EA stinkers were profitable too. The point is that as this level, just being profitable, even making tens of millions or more in pure profit is paradoxically not enough given the entire development cycle and shareholder dividend increase expected.

If this game doesn't bring enormous returns,that have and will be eaten into with paid 10/10 infomercials and will continue to have apologist editorials how the 'user ratings' are just by trolls,'how gamers haven't matured yet to appreciate greatness' etc. then the likelihood that it will be on hiatus or as you say 'story is finished' like ME and dumped then rebooted in some future time if there's nostalgia for it, is certainly high.
 

toro

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Great story. Shame it's based on a false premise. Cuckman did in fact write Part 1 and was a creative director on that game. Apparently, he isn't completely talentless and is capable of writing a somewhat competent story and characters. The problem is, that's not what he was trying to do in Part 2. When making it, Cuckman was first and foremost preoccupied with conveying ideological messages and ticking off a checklist dictated by that ideology. One of those check marks was deconstructing the most significant representatives of the class enemy white patriarchy. This is not the approach you take, when you're trying to create a compelling story and well developed characters. it's what you do, to produce propaganda. So it's like cvv said: ideology and spite.

Google Bruce Straley. He created the characters of Joel and Ellie. Also the ending of Tlou1 was not done by Cuckmann.

Basically he was the creative director but the hard work was done by other people.
 

blrrmmmff

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If you think this won't make up for its development costs, you are sadly mistaken. It will turn profit.

It might, but it will probably disappoint. Remember this is a PS4 exclusive, they are supposed to be universally liked and sell 10s of millions of copies, not get a 3.4 user score on Metacritic and merely sell a few million. These are supposed to be the games people buy a PS4 for.

A lot of people will probably buy it to see how bad it really is. But it will create a lot of controversy and division Sony won't like. Plus market research will probably show that the brand will be damaged. They don't want half the population who don't like this SJW stuff not buy a ps5 out of principle. Especially since those are often the ones who have money.

I hope that investors see titles that do not participate in the culture war, and see that people like them, and they make money. And they will weed out the culture warriors, and bring in more talent that is not interested in political messages.

Edit: to add, when doing market research they might find that people were impressed with graphics, quality of sound design, quality of voice acting etc. And think 'hmm if we had a non culture war theme, with a good story, this would have been a universal success'. Basically the part where all the money went, is not why people hate it.
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
If you think this won't make up for its development costs, you are sadly mistaken. It will turn profit.

It might, but it will probably disappoint. Remember this is a PS4 exclusive, they are supposed to be universally liked and sell 10s of millions of copies, not get a 3.4 user score on Metacritic and merely sell a few million.

Yeah, that's not how the destruction of these big IPs works. It's gonna be like Star Wars - TLJ did make 1.3 billion. That's a huge amount of money and huge profit for Disney.

Problem is it's way less than 2.1 billion for Force Awakens. And it also caused the third film to flop even more, with "mere" 1.1 billion. This is not what's expected from successful trilogies. Series like LotR or Harry Potter were either more or equally successful with each subsequent sequel.

So my humble tip is this: TLoU1 sold 20 million (as did Uncharted 4). The second game will sell maybe 13 million? And if they make a third game it'll have a hard time reaching 10 million. And this is all the most optimistic prediction for ND I could manage.

And just like that Naughty Dog will decline from a studio that was regularly selling 20 million to someone selling half that, if lucky. From the top of the world into the crowded average.
 

norolim

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Great story. Shame it's based on a false premise. Cuckman did in fact write Part 1 and was a creative director on that game. Apparently, he isn't completely talentless and is capable of writing a somewhat competent story and characters. The problem is, that's not what he was trying to do in Part 2. When making it, Cuckman was first and foremost preoccupied with conveying ideological messages and ticking off a checklist dictated by that ideology. One of those check marks was deconstructing the most significant representatives of the class enemy white patriarchy. This is not the approach you take, when you're trying to create a compelling story and well developed characters. it's what you do, to produce propaganda. So it's like cvv said: ideology and spite.

Google Bruce Straley. He created the characters of Joel and Ellie. Also the ending of Tlou1 was not done by Cuckmann.

Basically he was the creative director but the hard work was done by other people.
I'm not imagining he did everything on his own. I'm also not overrating his talent. All I'm saying his creative direction lead to something that the unwashed masses consider quality, at least once before. I have no way to check how much actual writing/work he did on TLoU1.
 

vonAchdorf

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Full disclosure: I never played TLoU 1 (or 2). Even for the first game I found all those deeep/mature/GotGeneration/10/10 ratings to be a turn-off. I only played the Uncharted series.
 

Robber Baron

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Nah, in the long run that won't do shit. Every institution that has a semblance of power in the west leans left, sometimes hard left. Meme-ing, review bombing - these are just minor bumps on the road for an industry which is no longer wholly motivated by profit.

Thankfully the game industry does not exist in vacuum, the world changes so fast every time you can never know when the next bump gonna change everything
 

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