Incline The Valkyria Chronicles Thread

[SCO]

You can play VC3 in the pc right now you numbskull.

 

[spekkio]

But... But... That's illegal!

 

[Abu Antar]

But... But... That's illegal!

There are very simple and legal ways. I've played several PSP games on PPSSPP.

 

[Cholo]

I really want to enjoy this game but it has a faggoty anime to turn based tactics game ratio of like 6:1

 

[belated]

-50% on steam now. Didn't it have a similar discount just a few weeks ago or something?

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

-50% on steam now. Didn't it have a similar discount just a few weeks ago or something?

Not that much.

 

[Abu Antar]

It was 50% off a week or two ago.

 

[Morgoth]

http://steamcommunity.com/app/294860/discussions/0/617328415060035402/

Patch Update 20/02/2015
- Adjustment to save system, to prevent an issue where the game would attempt to save to a new directory.

- Fixed an issue where the firing rates of several weapons/enemies would increase at higher frame rates.

 

[WhiskeyWolf]

Damn, they fixed the high frame-rate bug.

 

[Cyberarmy]

Too late :/ Many waifus poor soldiers eaten by tank guns already.

 

[abnaxus]

So they fixed the only thing that made the game even remotely challenging.

 

[Athelas]

I finally finished this thing, including the Edy missions and the Selvaria DLC which attempts to humanize everyone's favorite villainous waifu.

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Conclusion: it fails, but playing as an absurdly big-titted Shock Trooper/Scout hybrid is well worth it.

The combat is excellent, but I think this is more due to the care that went into designing the missions - every battle is a unique setpiece and this ensures combat never becomes stale. But the mechanics aren't that good - apart from the truly excellent attack of opportunity system. The ease with which you can regenerate ammo and bring back fallen allies can trivialize most encounters. Perhaps that's why ranking is done based on turns - because it's a bit too easy to exploit those mechanics if you take your time. Still, that's not a very good solution. One of the final missions explicitly states that the objective is to slow down an incoming battle ship - and you paradoxically get a lower ranking for slowing it down as much as possible, which is absurd. I think I'd like the game better if it had limited resources and some kind of penalty for being knocked out. I also wish the Potentials (which are basically just perks/traits) were passive bonuses instead of triggering randomly when you need them the least - and not triggering when you could really need them.

The A.I. is not entirely up too snuff either, unfortunately. You never see the enemy move from cover to cover strategically to cross a great distance while remaining safe, or blow up your tank's obvious blue sphincter with their infantry (my shock troopers could do this quite easily to the enemy tanks). Splitting up player and enemy turns in discrete phases probably exacerbates the issue.

The story deserves special mention for being absolute pants on head retarded. What pushes it beyond being simply a bad anime/jRPG story are the terrible WW2 analogues (Darcsens being Jews, the dangers of atomic warfare - complete with mushroom cloud imagery). The shoehorning in of the 'saved by the power of love' message is also fairly terrible. That being said, the art style is great (and doesn't look like typical anime at all). I played with Japanese voices, so I was spared the bad English dub and the full impact of the bad dialogue.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

I think that is a fair assessment all around, although I'll disagree in that I think the mechanics themselves are pretty damn good.

 

[abnaxus]

Dub is alright, Rosie's song is better in English plus Isara is Laura Bailey.

 

[Lerk]

The story deserves special mention for being absolute pants on head retarded. What pushes it beyond being simply a bad anime/jRPG story are the terrible WW2 analogues (Darcsens being Jews, the dangers of atomic warfare - complete with mushroom cloud imagery). The shoehorning in of the 'saved by the power of love' message is also fairly terrible. That being said, the art style is great (and doesn't look like typical anime at all).

It's not a bad story at all given the medium - and particularly given the genre. What were you expecting from a cartoon anime videogame, exactly?

I played with Japanese voices, so I was spared the bad English dub and the full impact of the bad dialogue.

English VA is fine, how do you know it's bad if you haven't used it? I don't get the whole monocled thing regarding Japanese VA - unless you can understand Japanese, it just seems like tryhard weeaboo BS. Although I'll admit I have no idea how faithful the translation is.

Also, explain "saved by the power of love" to me:

If you're referring to

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Selvaria's sacrifice for Maximillian that wipes out most of Gallia's standing army, that's quite effectively counterpointed by the fact that Maximillian coldly orders her to her death, and furthermore gives not one shit when she actually follows through. She may love him, but he sees her as a weapon and nothing more. Additionally, her sacrifice is in vain anyway.

However, if you're talking about

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flying into the sunset on Isara's plane...

then yeah, maybe...but if you've played that far through the game, you'll have swallowed much worse by then (Hans the winged pig and the beachball RnR scene immediately spring to mind)

If anything, it's more a case of saved by the power of

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betrayal; Faldio puts a bullet into Alicia to awaken her Valkyrur blood, which is what allows her to put a hole in the side of the Marmota, which is what allows Squad Seven to stop Maximillian for good.

VCs story isn't amazing by any means, but "pants on head retarded"? No. Play VC2 to see how bad it could have been.

 

[Athelas]

English VA is fine, how do you know it's bad if you haven't used it?

I tried it out and hated it. And not being able to make out the radio chatter in combat actually added to the atmosphere, I thought.

It's not a bad story at all given the medium - and particularly given the genre.

What's supposed to be good about the story? It has all the worst hallmarks of the genre, from 'magical girl with hidden, world-ending powers' to the entire cast consisting of teenagers (the only 30-year olds are Largo and Varrot and they're considered veterans of wars). Add to this the straight-faced, checklist approach of the story ('here's the concentration camp', 'here's the heroic sacrifice', etc.) and the complete lack of self-awareness and you get something that somehow manages to be both over the top and very bland. As usual with story-heavy games, I end up wishing the budget was used on other parts of the game.

Also, explain "saved by the power of love" to me:

The moral of the story is pretty much that it's okay to save your waifu at the cost of an entire nation, as evidenced by the scene where Welkin stops Alicia from blowing up the Marmota with the power of love, and the even more absurd scene of Faldio arriving just in time to die a redemptive death for his 'crimes'.

VCs story isn't amazing by any means, but "pants on head retarded"? No. Play VC2 to see how bad it could have been.

More importantly, it was a sequel on inferior hardware (the PSP), meaning smaller/simplified maps, worse controls and the loss of the unique art style.

 

[Morgoth]

http://segabits.com/blog/2015/03/05/valkyria-chronicles-sold-over-200000-copies-on-steam/

Excellent. Now we want Persona 5 on Steam too, Sega.

And Alien Isolation sold ~330k units on Steam.

 

[Broseph]

I had heard it was doing well. As a Segaphile I only want more PC ports of their games. Keep it up goddammit!

 

[Morality Games]

200,000 is definitely good enough to justify porting 2 and 3 as well.

 

[Azalin]

200k for a game released in 2008 are great

 

[deuxhero]

200,000 in a few months?

How many did the PS3 version sell in the years it has been out?

 

[Lerk]

200,000 is definitely good enough to justify porting 2 and 3 as well.

2 & 3 would need far more than porting. The PC audience would not accept anything less than the sequels using the original game's Canvas engine, at a bare minimum - that PSP engine won't fly. Neither would the segmented, re-cycled maps. VC3 would require localization as well. Also, the quality of the anime in both sequels is not on par with the original game, and there were enough people raging that VC1s movies were in "shitty" 720p already.

I wouldn't hold your breath for 2 & 3 anytime soon, unless Sega actually do straight 1:1 ports (unlikely, I think)

Luckily, emulation is a thing! VC3 has been fan translated too.

 

[deuxhero]

Vanquish seems frequently asked for and plausible.

I wonder if Tri-Ace's recent damnation would interfere with a Resonance of Fate port.

 

[Multi-headed Cow]

The story in this is killing me. I'm dying bros. I'm dying. Everyone who tried to tell me it wasn't too anime should be shot.

Combat seems reasonably fun thus far though. Bit more puzzle than tacticool since everything appears to be extremely fixed and scripted, but yeah. Trying to make a friendly team doesn't seem to particularly matter either. Might matter more if you're doing hard skirmishes or whatever but thus far the few times I've put people together the bonuses seem pretty negligible.

 

[tuluse]

The story in this is killing me. I'm dying bros. I'm dying. Everyone who tried to tell me it wasn't too anime should be shot.

Everyone praising any aspect of the writing is ridiculous. Just skip the anime scenes and play the game.