Son of Max said:
Apparently, relatively obscure WW2 German battle rifles (of which fewer than half a million were made) are bountiful in the post-apocalyptic American southwest, while...
1903: 1.3 million +
Garand: aproximately 6.25 million
M14: 2.5 million
M1A and other semi-only M14 clones: unknown, but they've been building them since '74 and I've seen A LOT of them.
Somehow, despite their massive production numbers and the fact that most of the existing weapons are in the U.S. in MASSIVE quantities, nowhere to be found.
We haven't released a full weapons list yet, but the Garand, Springfield 1903 and M14 are definitely on it. Actually the Garand is currently in the game already although you might not recognize it immediately. We have quite a few mass produced and highly recognizable US weapons in the game.
Son of Max said:
Not even variants there of, like...
M21
M25 (if they're going with 'what looks cool', put this thing into the game...it'd actually be realistic AND meet the 'looks cool' requirement for the game, especially fitted with a JAE custom stock; 'looks cool', but also a gorgeous fit, one of the best investments I ever made.)
M39 EMR (also meets the 'looks cool' requirement)
Mk 14 EBR ('looks cool')
M1A Scout ('looks cool')
The M21 is a prime candidate and will likely be the variant of the M14 we implement. The others may be a little too far on the tactical side but that doesn't rule anything out. I'm always looking at new possibilities.
Son of Max said:
And yet...the FNC (barred from import in 1989, never saw much in sales in the U.S.) made it into the game as well.
*sigh*
We have a weapon modeled after the HK G3 currently in game, is that what you are referring to?
Son of Max said:
After seeing what they've put into the game, to a certain extent, I'd rather they just kept the weapons from the original and been done with it. (The Auto Glick is nice though, and the OA-16 is a nice touch, I'll give them that.)
You should expect to see many more Wasteland 1 weapons returning in Wasteland 2. We love them as much as you and want to see them in game.
Son of Max said:
Felixg91 said:
and let me guess RPG-7's instead of AT-4's SMAW's, LAWS and Carl Gustav's....another weapon that wouldnt be around. Probably no grenade launchers either.
Nope, they got LAWs, but no AT-4's, SMAW's or CG's.
No grenade launchers so far that I've come across, but I haven't come across even HALF the weapons on the weapon list (have I missed an entire fucking area of the Beta or something?) so, I dunno.
AT-4's and SMAW's are made and functioning, they just weren't a part of the demo. The CG is an excellent suggestion and I will get in on a list. I have just the place for it.
Son of Max said:
Felixg91 said:
thats too bad that someone who knew a lot about weapons( both historically and operationally), wasnt consulted on the choices.
Meh.
I'd have consulted for free. Seriously, it would have been a pleasure. Loved Wasteland, wanted to see a broader selection of weapons in the sequel, could have given them a pretty decent group of weapons to put into the game that would offer both variety AND plausible rationale for why 'Gun X' and not 'Gun Y'.
The M14 (and it's variants) are some of my favorite weapons to fire. (Big reason I own one and a tricked out variant as well.)
Own a M1903A4. It's a nice gun, and it would be THE most logical and realistic sniper rifle to find in the wastes, along with looking like a post-apoc weapon as is.
Not a fan of the Garand, but it's availability should have been considered; you literally CANNOT walk into a gun store ANYWHERE in the U.S. and not find at least a few on the racks. (And at gun
shows? Fuggetaboutit. I think the only thing I've seen more of at gun shows are Chinese made SK's...and not by much.)
Hopefully that clarifies things a little.
We are working very hard to make sure the range of weapons we have is both inclusive and interesting. That being said, no one wants to leave out an expected or iconic weapon. If you see something missing you would absolutely expect to be on the list please continue to post about it. The Carl Gustav RR was a perfect example and I thank you for it. Please keep the feedback coming, it's a big help!
