Decline Thiaf Pre-Release Thread

[Ninjerk]

It's not intended to be a direct sequel is it? (I never played it)

 

[Gord]

No, it's only inspired by some aspects of System Shock.

 

[Infinitron]

Ugh. I hate what I have become from this. Bitter and suspicious and negative. And the community as a whole all comes off this way, which damages our credibility and provides justification for the devs to ignore our concerns as rabid ranting. And the awful truth is that it's Eidos that made us this way, with their long silence interpreted as disinterest and disrespect. And when they finally broke that silence it was to confirm our suspicions that we were not being listened to and in fact the game was not being made for us at all.

Eidos is not suddenly going to start listening to our wishes or addressing our concerns. I think if we all try to accept that then we will stop being disappointed and angry and maybe we can break the cycle.

This sounds like something from DX:HR pre-release. It's a shame the Thief fans didn't figure out their beloved franchise was going to get raped just like Deus Ex. System Shock's about due for a good raping isn't it?

There won't be a System Shock sequel anytime soon since Looking Glass' insurance company (or whatever the hell they are) is sitting on the rights and nobody seems to want to buy 'em.

 

[tuluse]

It's not intended to be a direct sequel is it? (I never played it)

It's a spiritual successor according to Ken Levine.

 

[TripJack]

There won't be a System Shock sequel anytime soon since Looking Glass' insurance company (or whatever the hell they are) is sitting on the rights and nobody seems to want to buy 'em.

and for this we should all be thankful

 

[Darth Slaughter]

It's not intended to be a direct sequel is it? (I never played it)

It's a spiritual successor according to Ken Levine.

And thiaf is a genetical sucessor according to Eidos Montreal. Apparently, they don't believe in spirits and supernatural things, hence the lack of zombies and haunts...

 

[Echo Mirage]

Ugh. I hate what I have become from this. Bitter and suspicious and negative. And the community as a whole all comes off this way, which damages our credibility and provides justification for the devs to ignore our concerns as rabid ranting. And the awful truth is that it's Eidos that made us this way, with their long silence interpreted as disinterest and disrespect. And when they finally broke that silence it was to confirm our suspicions that we were not being listened to and in fact the game was not being made for us at all.

Eidos is not suddenly going to start listening to our wishes or addressing our concerns. I think if we all try to accept that then we will stop being disappointed and angry and maybe we can break the cycle.

This sounds like something from DX:HR pre-release. It's a shame the Thief fans didn't figure out their beloved franchise was going to get raped just like Deus Ex. System Shock's about due for a good raping isn't it?

Its a stark contrast to the early days. We were all so positive and must have given them the blueprint and syntax for the ultimate Deus Ex game on those forums. Only for them to not give a damn until it came time for marketing to milk us for $60. The Thief forums are an exact copy of the DX forums in the run up to launch with even the most loyal supporter becoming jaded and dejected. And they only have themselves to blame for it but they are to damn stupid to figure it out.

 

[Ninjerk]

It's a sister board for crying out loud! I don't understand how they could miss it!

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Funnily enough, the expectations for DX:HR were so abysmally low here on the Codex, that some people actually ended up liking it after it was released. Good for what it was, as we like to say around these parts.

 

[Echo Mirage]

Expectations on the DX forums were also low until the steam press demo was leaked. All most everyone downloaded it on the forums and they even set up a thread for feedback. It changed a few minds and lightened the hate posts a little.

It's a sister board for crying out loud! I don't understand how they could miss it!

Because they just don't care. They want to make the game they want to play, but they fail to take into account the 10 million other people that Square Enix expects them to sell the game to.

 

[evdk]

Funnily enough, the expectations for DX:HR were so abysmally low here on the Codex, that some people actually ended up liking it after it was released. Good for what it was, as we like to say around these parts.

The fact that it was better than Invisible War helps.

 

[AstroZombie]

You guys are from TTLG, then? That used to be a cool place. I remember Terry Pratchett posting there a long, long, long, long time ago.

I think they're from the Eidos forums. You can tell by how traumatized they are. Only official forums do that to a person.

And earned my place in Valhalla for it as well.

*video*

There won't be a System Shock sequel anytime soon since Looking Glass' insurance company (or whatever the hell they are) is sitting on the rights and nobody seems to want to buy 'em.

I believe EA also owns part of the SS IP, it's a total clusterfuck.

 

[Stereotypical Villain]

I wish SHODAN and Victoria would team up and destroy Eidos / Square Penis.

 

[Direwolf]

You're all fags. This is the best version of Valhalla by far.

 

[argan]

Wrong.

 

[Melan]

There won't be a System Shock sequel anytime soon since Looking Glass' insurance company (or whatever the hell they are) is sitting on the rights and nobody seems to want to buy 'em.

And God bless them for that.

Also, there is nothing worthwhile in the System Shock franchise that doesn't come from the creative environment at LGS/early Irrational: the plots, locations, even the ''crazy, powerful AI looking for vengeance'' are all worn-out SF clichés. The genius is all in the actual implementation, and that was all in the people who worked there at that time. Give the franchise to another design team, and they will give you Doom 3 or Aliens: Colonial Marines even if they will spend $3 million trying to breed authentic psionic monkeys to ''get the DNA of the franchise right''.

Better dead than popamole.

 

[octavius]

Funnily enough, the expectations for DX:HR were so abysmally low here on the Codex, that some people actually ended up liking it after it was released.

Funny thing, expectations...I ended up liking Unreal 2 and Invisibe War do to my low expectations of them.

 

[AstroZombie]

You're all fags. This is the best version of Valhalla by far.

I was saving the best for last, bro.

Edit: Media tags fucking with my posts.

 

[Carrion]

Valhalla

*sigh*



And the best version is of course Bathory's.

 

[JarlFrank]

 

[skacky]

Just saw that on TTLG: http://www.polygon.com/2013/8/21/46...ating-garrett-stephen-gallagher-gamescom-2013

 

[Darth Roxor]

"[He] kind of inspired himself as basic premise: We took his personality and [figured out] what he can't handle."

Gallagher shared more details of the "new Garrett's story," offering a deep look into the world of Eidos Montreal's Thief. The game will star a Garrett haunted by loss and determined to never kill anyone unless it was necessary. Gallagher said Garrett's story begins with Erin, a young woman who has fled the servitude of a brothel and taken to the streets. Garrett, seeing her skill in pickpocketing, takes her under his wing and is determined to make her a master thief. But Erin is quick to kill and actually seems to enjoy the act, so after several years of pilfering partnership the two part ways.

 

[JarlFrank]

why do they have to ruin everything

 

[Zdzisiu]

I predict this may be a golden LP material.

 

[Infinitron]

It does kind of remind me of the ending of T: DS. Although that was a little girl, not a prostitute.