Torment Torment: Tides of Numenera Beta Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Prime Junta]

There is much goodness to mine in this fine example of the reviewer's art.

rpg codex > a giant ball of richness

 

[Junmarko]

FO2, VtM:B or MotB. Hm... come think of it, I've never touched any of those. :lol

FO2 and VTM:B = You're really missing out
MotB = ...wait for a rainy day.

 

[2house2fly]

I've never played MOTB because I wouldn't feel right playing it without playing NWN2 first, and NWN2 runs like shit on my computer for some reason

Edit: I guess MOTB would run like shit too

 

[Prime Junta]

Yes it would.

While the NWN2 OC isn't quite as bad as it's sometimes made out to be, you shouldn't let not wanting to play it stop you play MotB. There's next to no continuity. Main reason to play it is to build up charname; going straight to level 18 is a bit of a handful, and while MotB isn't super-hard you do need to have a reasonably competent character to be able to beat some of the harder fights.

 

[Lurker King]

MotB = ...wait for a rainy day.

That is just wrong on so many levels. I don't even.

I've never played MOTB because I wouldn't feel right playing it without playing NWN2 first, and NWN2 runs like shit on my computer for some reason

That's your OCD speaking. They have the same engine, but are very different games. NWN2 has some cool quests and mechanics (Crossroad Keep administration, etc), but awful main story, simplistic quests, etc. It's a bad game with some good ideas in it.

 

[Junmarko]

MotB = ...wait for a rainy day.

That is just wrong on so many levels. I don't even.

I agree. Rainy days, ideally, should be enjoyed with better games.

 

[Elthosian]

Yes it would.

While the NWN2 OC isn't quite as bad as it's sometimes made out to be, you shouldn't let not wanting to play it stop you play MotB. There's next to no continuity. Main reason to play it is to build up charname; going straight to level 18 is a bit of a handful, and while MotB isn't super-hard you do need to have a reasonably competent character to be able to beat some of the harder fights.

To be honest, it deserves all of bad fame if only for the sequence where you fight almost a hundred assassins in a house, too much trash content and except for the dungeons at the end, the few good things are overshadowed by arbitrary lack of consequence to your acts.

 

[Roguey]

I've never played MOTB because I wouldn't feel right playing it without playing NWN2 first, and NWN2 runs like shit on my computer for some reason

Edit: I guess MOTB would run like shit too

Set shadows to their lowest settings.

 

[Urthor]

I hated the gameplay of NWN so much I couldn't do Mask of the Betrayer. Even as a point n clicK playing that engine is just not worth it.

 

[Jarpie]

I hated the gameplay of NWN so much I couldn't do Mask of the Betrayer. Even as a point n clicK playing that engine is just not worth it.

I couldn't play MotB due absolutely horrendous engine. They actually managed to make it even more cumbersome than first one.

 

[t]

Apparently inXile takes a while to respond to emails. No news on my refund request from 1st of Feb.

 

[throwaway]

I feel like there ought to be a name and shame list for articles doing the Planetscape/Tournament thing. At this point I feel like I've encountered it more than a dozen times.

 

[cruelio]

NWN 2 OG campaign makes perfect sense if you assume it's meant to represent a really, really, really, really bad tabletop campaign. All the tropes are there including, literally, rocks fall and everyone dies.

 

[felipepepe]

NWN1's OC was absolute garbage, but NWN2 OC is an ok 20-30h campaign stretched to a 60h game. You could make a "redux" mod just pressing delete a lot and end up with a much better game.

Also, InXile's facebook contest only awards PS4 copies of Numanuma... I guess that's their main platform.

Also Also, fuck that preview. Guy's skills are as wide as his layout's leading.

 

[Iznaliu]

Tides of Numenera is character turn-based

Compared to what? NPC turn-based? Building turn-based?. "Character turn based" is an odd turn of phrase.

 

[udm]

At least there are still fine folks out there, at a time when we could all do with some good news

Meanwhile Codex got blacklisted after donating more potatoes than those fags.

Fargo... Fargo never changes.

 

[Luckmann]

It would appear that in addition to all the other stretchgoals that were cut, there's also only a grand total of 3 Foci in the game, and there's even a textstring in the game referencing their inability to create more. For those not in the know, a character's focus is the third part of the character creation process, and stretchgoals talk about how the Tides and your Legacy is suppose to influence what Foci you have or get access to, and so on and so forth. Well that's not happening.

Instead, all that's there is three completely generic Foci that you simply choose after an early sidequest; one for defensive fighters, one for social characters, and one for rogues, seemingly with zero reactivity built into the game - the benefits are purely mechanical, and doesn't seem to have effects past acquisition (in the printed RPG, you get abilities each tier).

To be clear, in the printed RPG, there's 54 different foci, literally 18 times more, ranging from being a cyborg to being an energy-vampire to literally being on fire. And out of all of these, your choice is now (defensive) fighter, rogue, or (social) wizard.

Makes me wonder if what we're getting is really just the base game as it was intended before crowdfunding even started, and that they took everything in excess of the minimum and built (((Fargo))) an extra gefiltefish-vault or something.

 

[Irenaeus]

no wonder InePtile people ran away from this place and pretend we never existed.

 

[Sigourn]

Fuck Fargo and his piece of shit PS:T wannabe spiritual successor.

Don't trust the Fargo.

 

[Luckmann]

no wonder InePtile people ran away from this place and pretend we never existed.

It was the natural reaction, really, considering that the Codex has standards.

They might be questionable standards, but at least they're there.

Obsidian & inXile are both now firmly in the same echo-chamber. California needs to be fucking gassed.

 

[Somberlain]

Following inEptile is like investigating a horror fiction serial killer where you constantly come across new and more horrifying cases.

 

[Jedi Master Radek]

Yes, bodies pop up everywhere. You return home after a day long murder case investigation and the first thing you find is another body in your very own toilet! And you only wanted to pee.

 

[Iznaliu]

Fuck Fargo and his piece of shit PS:T wannabe spiritual successor.

It doesn't matter whether PS:T is any good; it matters whether Fargo is an incompetent, lying, and megalomaniacal idiot. PS:T might be a good game for all I care, despite its troubled development, but Fargo has shown that he is too far gone to deserve any money. Just saying "IT WILL BE SHIT" without addressing the real problem is playing right into Fargo's hand.

 

[Junmarko]

no wonder InePtile people ran away from this place and pretend we never existed.

It was the natural reaction, really, considering that the Codex has standards.

So, the general consensus is:

inXile removed content, quietly, until (the Codex?) pointed it out.
They then released an apology, claiming it was intentional to make the core game better.
Only to say that "backers would get all future DLCs and Expansions free" - highlighting that the content was removed, not to polish the core game, but with the intention of re-selling it.
The Codex has been blacklisted "Julian Assange style" for bringing it up.

Am I correct? Sorry, I didn't back the game myself, so I haven't followed much of it closely...

 

[Infinitron]

So, the general consensus is:

Only to say that "backers would get all future DLCs and Expansions free" - highlighting that the content was removed, not to polish the core game, but with the intention of re-selling it.

No.