Preview Tyranny GDC 2016 Previews

[Thonius]

In a mainstream CRPG like this? Weeks of work on a scenario that only a handful of players will see...

That's the reason for the short playtime, isn't it? More replaying, more players see it.

Going by steam stats most players don't even finish CRPGs the first time around. I'm not complaining but I think this is an experiment with an obvious conclusion.

They dont finish rpgs because they are too long and filled with trash mobs and quests.

 

[Excidium II]

Some codexers about AoD: the playtroughs are too small, replayability is overrated; this game is a CYOA, not a cRPG.

Same codexers about T:ToN: the playtroughs are small and the emphasis is on replayability. That is great! Finally we have developers that can deliver what we want. Kevin Saunders and Colin McComb are geniuses, wow!

Same codexers about Tyranny: the game is focused on replayability in a CYOA style. Huehuehuehueheuheuheu Obsidian delivers. GOTY!

It’s all about pedigree, folks!

It's all about cynicism after AoD being a meme for so long.

 

[Excidium II]

In a mainstream CRPG like this? Weeks of work on a scenario that only a handful of players will see...

That's the reason for the short playtime, isn't it? More replaying, more players see it.

Going by steam stats most players don't even finish CRPGs the first time around. I'm not complaining but I think this is an experiment with an obvious conclusion.

They dont finish rpgs because they are too long and filled with trash mobs and quests.

Even short ones don't have very encouraging stats.

 

[Bubbles]

They dont finish rpgs because they are too long and filled with trash mobs and quests.

That must be why Fallout 4 has a completion rate of over 19.8%, better than almost any other RPG on the market.

 

[Lurker King]

In general, just want to comment I've gotten a bit tired of "gray" morality in RPGs. It's fantasy and escapism, I think it's totally fine to have clearly defined good and evil and not have to deal with moral ambiguity.

Fuck you! Go play Bethesda games, popamole lover!

 

[FeelTheRads]

Some codexers about AoD: the playtroughs are too small, replayability is overrated; this game is a CYOA, not a cRPG.

Same codexers about T:ToN: the playtroughs are small and the emphasis is on replayability. That is great! Finally we have developers that can deliver what we want. Kevin Saunders and Colin McComb are geniuses, wow!

Same codexers about Tyranny: the game is focused on replayability in a CYOA style. Huehuehuehueheuheuheu Obsidian delivers. GOTY!

It’s all about pedigree, folks!

It's actually all about implementation. As in, the AoD implementation is shit and the whole game is just jumping from script to script.

 

[Bubbles]

In general, just want to comment I've gotten a bit tired of "gray" morality in RPGs. It's fantasy and escapism, I think it's totally fine to have clearly defined good and evil and not have to deal with moral ambiguity.

Fuck you! Go play Bethesda games, popamole lover!

Fallout 4 is extremely morally grey. Educate yourself before you start bashing.

 

[Xzylvador]

This actually sounds pretty cool so far.

Joined: May 14, 2004

 

[Excidium II]

In general, just want to comment I've gotten a bit tired of "gray" morality in RPGs. It's fantasy and escapism, I think it's totally fine to have clearly defined good and evil and not have to deal with moral ambiguity.

Fuck you! Go play Bethesda games, popamole lover!

Fallout 4 is extremely morally grey. Educate yourself before you start bashing.

It's a game about postpartum depression.

 

[WhatAreYou?ACasul?]

As somebody who actually lives there, I can tell you that the terrain in some of the first screenshots we saw did look Mediterranean to me. It's not incredibly distinctive but you recognize it once you know it. Muted green, scattered foliage.

If I may ask, where do you live exactly? "Mediterranean" is a vague notion, because , you know, both Egypt and Greece could be described by this term. I personally have Greece before my eyes when I hear the term, but as I said, it's not the whole story.

The screen did not leave "mediterranean" impression on me, though. I think "american" is more fitting (it probably describes anything an USA developer will ever develop btw. )

 

[Lurker King]

Some codexers about AoD: the playtroughs are too small, replayability is overrated; this game is a CYOA, not a cRPG.

Same codexers about T:ToN: the playtroughs are small and the emphasis is on replayability. That is great! Finally we have developers that can deliver what we want. Kevin Saunders and Colin McComb are geniuses, wow!

Same codexers about Tyranny: the game is focused on replayability in a CYOA style. Huehuehuehueheuheuheu Obsidian delivers. GOTY!

It’s all about pedigree, folks!

It's actually all about implementation. As in, the AoD implementation is shit and the whole game is just jumping from script to script.

Right, because in these games you have more filler running between the quests and choices. They are superior C&C games because of the running around exploration. Ok, whatever.

 

[Bubbles]

As somebody who actually lives there, I can tell you that the terrain in some of the first screenshots we saw did look Mediterranean to me. It's not incredibly distinctive but you recognize it once you know it. Muted green, scattered foliage.

If I may ask, where do you live exactly? "Mediterranean" is a vague notion, because , you know, both Egypt and Greece could be described by this term. I personally have Greece before my eyes when I hear the term, but as I said, it's not the whole story.

The screen did not leave "mediterranean" impression on me

The 'tron is an Israeli, so all the flaming missiles might be reminding him of home.

 

[Excidium II]

 

[Fairfax]

As somebody who actually lives there, I can tell you that the terrain in some of the first screenshots we saw did look Mediterranean to me. It's not incredibly distinctive but you recognize it once you know it. Muted green, scattered foliage.

If I may ask, where do you live exactly? "Mediterranean" is a vague notion, because , you know, both Egypt and Greece could be described by this term. I personally have Greece before my eyes when I hear the term, but as I said, it's not the whole story.

The screen did not leave "mediterranean" impression on me

The 'tron is an Israeli, so all the flaming missiles might be reminding him of home.

[black teens react]

 

[FeelTheRads]

Right, because in these games you have more filler running between the quests and choices. They are superior C&C games because of the running around exploration. Ok, whatever.

Yes, the beautiful VD rhetoric... "if my game has nothing of worth between dialogue scripts then no other games have either, therefore I improved RPGs!"

 

[Visbhume]

The 1200 BC reference makes it clear - they're making a fantasy version of the Late Bronze Age collapse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18730589-1177-b-c

 

[hivemind]

Yes, the beautiful VD rhetoric... "if my game has nothing of worth between dialogue scripts then no other games have either, therefore I improved RPGs!"

FeelTheAutism

 

[Ovplain]

improve-by-use progression

:S

EDIT: maybe if there was an overall CAP for each character? Or if the higher you raised one particular skill, the lower another one would get? Or raising a certain skill would make some synergistic skills easier to also raise up while others harder? I don't know.

 

[a cut of domestic sheep prime]

The character system is classless with improve-by-use progression

 

[Thonius]

But what if its copycat of AoD in terms of skill progression?
AoD had somewhat rudimentary "improve by use progression" - you kill you got an battle points (forgot the name) you talk you get a social skills. Its just a general pool that gives you more options and overall flexibility. Also it`s classless.

 

[Irenaeus III]

forgot the name

Combat skill points.

 

[oldmanpaco]

Well the setting sounds interesting. At least its not the Late Middle-Ages or Renaissance.

Other than that nothing really interests me (4 person party, classless, short/re-playable campaigns). And I have little faith in their C&C promises. Seems very unlikely they can pull it off.

But as others have said at least we didn't KS this so there is time to let the early adapters test it out.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Well the setting sounds interesting. At least its not the Late Middle-Ages or Renaissance.

Other than that nothing really interests me (4 person party, classless, short/re-playable campaigns). And I have little faith in their C&C promises. Seems very unlikely they can pull it off.

But as others have said at least we didn't KS this so there is time to let the early adapters test it out.

KS or getting in bed with the likes of paradox, take your pick on which is worse.

 

[FeelTheRads]

Yes, the beautiful VD rhetoric... "if my game has nothing of worth between dialogue scripts then no other games have either, therefore I improved RPGs!"

FeelTheAutism

Sure, and if I could vote 1 for AoD again, I would.

Literally one of the worst games I've played.

P.S. Sorry for any butthurt caused.

 

[WhatAreYou?ACasul?]

The 1200 BC reference makes it clear - they're making a fantasy version of the Late Bronze Age collapse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Bronze_Age_collapse

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/18730589-1177-b-c

If you're into this sort of setting, then Dark Souls 2 may be a perfect game for ya