Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Parabalus]

If you're farming merchants you might as well just edit the quality directly.

 

[jackofshadows]

Nah, I just wanna upgrade at least something and go down already. I like to play by the rules. It's not like I'm farming because I cannot get something crucial to my build (but should at this point). In that case - maybe, yeah.

 

[Stavrophore]

If you have trouble fighting all the rathound king menagerie, then i found a nice trick to lure him out.

https://webm.red/MBPU.webm

 

[AW8]

Must... disarm... trap! My rathounds could get hurt!

PS. What's up with that music? I've never heard it in-game.

 

[Jezal_k23]

PS. What's up with that music? I've never heard it in-game.

Damn. I guess Styg has been experimenting with some new tracks for the game.

 

[Spark Mandriller]

The AP return is called at 20, so it doesn't incentivize 12.7mm Corsair either, just pure nerfs.

This is what I don't get Styg. Why bother nerfing like this in a single player game? Should've communicated more about your intent so at least we can understand where you are coming from.

Spearhead got nerfed, but the rest of the rifles got better since shooting spree got its new ability (and that's a buff to spearhead too so it got a buff as well as a nerf). I haven't played around with it so I have no idea if sniper rifles are stronger or weaker overall, but they did at least get something.

 

[Horvatii]

that 4 nagas on dom in melee was impressive, ran away only once, nice

 

[Ol' Willy]

I found out that if you're able to get close and personal, Nagas switch to melee attacks, and since melee is mechanical damage it's a way less dangerous.

 

[jackofshadows]

4 Naga vs melee was indeed impressive but also a good illustration why TM is OP and Contraction in particular (obviously). Nerf in moar, nerf it to the ground, Styg!

Spearhead got nerfed

My detailed feedback incoming after I finally finish the damn game but I can tell you that it is still the best rifle thanks to only -15% move and shoot precision adjustment and lowest AP on shot anyway. Extremely versatile and low damage is not a problem after a certain point. You can always carry around some extra big ass calibre rifle in case you cannot one-shot something with spearhead.

 

[Stavrophore]

This is how disgustingly OP psion was before nerfs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd3qr3AyIzs

 

[Ol' Willy]

A little post about my AR progression.

I started with 8.6 Marauder that I got from helpful lurkers in undertunnels, and this thing got my build rolling. Then I got myself a 7.62 Marauder as a sidearm, and with such ammo setup I went through the entire game (still not finished, this game is fucking huge and I'm not in a hurry). For 7.62 I kept Marauder, only updating quality and upgrades. For 8.6 I chose Huszar for it has the biggest upper damage. I thought about switching 7.62 to Hornet and 8.6 to Chimera, but found it unwarranted. Hornet has better accuracy, but less damage. Chimera doesn't look any better than my Huszar: damage is lower, AP consumption is the same, with just a critical bonus. Am I missing something here?

Joining Protectorate was a good choice after all (not that I had any choice, but still). This way I got to kill Kokoshka - sorry bre, nothing personal, but I really need that AK you have. AK has average stats, but the simple fact that it has infinite durability makes it absolutely necessary.

 

[Wunderbar]

Durability is an easily manageable thing tbh.

 

[Goromorg]

Joining Protectorate was a good choice after all (not that I had any choice, but still). This way I got to kill Kokoshka - sorry bre, nothing personal, but I really need that AK you have. AK has average stats, but the simple fact that it has infinite durability makes it absolutely necessary.

 

[Ol' Willy]

Durability is an easily manageable thing tbh.

How so? Thing is, my Huszar has ~2200 durability. One short fight leaves me with 1700-1800, medium with 1200-1300 and in long-ass endurance tests I ran out of durability faster than I ran out of ammo. Shit, I never ran out of ammo, but often was short on repair kits, especially if I fighting critters.

For example, I went to Horticulture with 1k 8.6 rounds, 1k 7.62 rounds and 18 repair kits: 18 advanced kits have the weight of 36 whatever units Underrail is using, so it's close to the weight of ~800 rounds. By the end of it I had 600 rounds of each caliber, but no kits, so I was relying on AK lately that day. (I'm not even talking about bladelings waves in Foundry: this cost me ~3000 durability).

Then I killed pirates and made myself enough kits.
- Charname, why have you killed all these people? There's corpses everywhere, this is a fucking slaughter!
- Eh, I just needed scrap metal to make myself more repair kits.

 

[Stavrophore]

Jeebus just download the cheat engine vendor restock cheat. They restock everytime you open barter menu, buy yourself 20 big repair kits, sell your shit to recuperate the losses. Since i discovered these QoL cheats i can't play without them. Speedhack and vendor restock and that's all you need.

https://fearlessrevolution.com/viewtopic.php?t=9441

 

[Ol' Willy]

Jeebus just download the cheat engine vendor restock cheat. They restock everytime you open barter menu, buy yourself 20 big repair kits, sell your shit to recuperate the losses.

- Infinite Durability; prevents wear&tear on item use. Just fire a weapon or something if you can't enable it.

Cool, but too easy.

 

[Spark Mandriller]

Am I missing something here?

Hornet is nice because rapid 7.62 hornet only takes 27 AP per burst. With the commando spec that refunds AP for burst kills that means you can burst three times in a single turn. Other ARs can't do that without using adrenaline/contraction.
Chimera is just there if you have good crit chance. If you do then it's the obvious choice. If you don't then it's obviously not.

Durability is an easily manageable thing tbh.

It's gotten more annoying since Styg made repair kits heavier/harder to make. And now he's given durability to psi too. It's like he wants to the game to be irritating.

 

[Sheepherder]

that 4 nagas on dom in melee was impressive, ran away only once, nice

Well, running away is the main form of defense of this build, it has over 150 MP. Running away only once means that I failed to properly employ the builds capabilities :D

Paid Fort Apogee a visit. Protectorate is so much better than the Free Drones, even killing them is more fun.

Spoiler

 

[Ol' Willy]

It's like he wants to the game to be irritating.

Again, it's not like I dislike the game, Underrail is really that awesome, but this little issues are like lumps in semolina porridge - while everything is great, this little wankers are really annoying. Irritating, as you say.

Like, I'm exploring all this Lemurian facilities, and here game gives me some really thick Arcanum vibes - Vendigroth, anyone? And Medical Center - this is how you make some creepy shit in CRPG. Excellent storytelling in Underrail - who would expect this from a combatfag heaven like this? Decent writing, no loredumps, information is given to you by bits, keeping the suspense - and all of this on top of the [[[almost]]] flawless combat system.

 

[Sheepherder]

It's like he wants to the game to be irritating.

Again, it's not like I dislike the game, Underrail is really that awesome, but this little issues are like lumps in semolina porridge - while everything is great, this little wankers are really annoying. Irritating, as you say.

Like, I'm exploring all this Lemurian facilities, and here game gives me some really thick Arcanum vibes - Vendigroth, anyone? And Medical Center - this is how you make some creepy shit in CRPG. Excellent storytelling in Underrail - who would expect this from a combatfag heaven like this? Decent writing, no loredumps, information is given to you by bits, keeping the suspense - and all of this on top of the [[[almost]]] flawless combat system.

Spoiler

In the Medical Center, after dealing with the doctor, if you go check out the remains of the robots you fought, you'll see that they're actually human skeletons. That's a very neat little detail that's easy to miss.

 

[ciox]

This is how disgustingly OP psion was before nerfs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd3qr3AyIzs

Why exactly?
He doesn't look to use more than 8 powers, nor cast many times such that he'd use more than max psi reserve, let alone with the +30% reserve feat.
It's a video with someone using an extremely risky gimmick build where all the lucky crits line up, to show the big numbers, while using a shield emitter with 10,000 health points as a crutch. Same type of flashy setup that led to other nerfs.
Also his main damage dealer in this pre-DLC fight is Electrokinesis, with later updates it can be buffed with magnifying neuroscopic filters and tesla armor to deal up to 60-70% more damage than it used to do in early 2018.

It's going to be a close fight either way and only the shield really holds it together. Honestly, Psi nerf fans are putting on a brave face now, but they will stop laughing when the shield nerfs cometh.

 

[oneself]

You have two options, either go for crits (was always viable with Steel Cat/Chimera) which has more options now, or go specialize every feat that helps bullet damage and fits your build, panhandling for extra damage bonuses from Full Auto, Opportunist, Blindsiding, Gun Nut, begging for more AP from Commando and Blitz, etc.

I remember a time when we had both at once

 

[Stavrophore]

Anyone knows where you can buy MKV grenades? Fort apogee sells MKIV only.

 

[Major_Blackhart]

I'd like to say redacted sells them, but I think they also go only to 4. Maybe the institute?

 

[Tygrende]

Spearhead got nerfed

My detailed feedback incoming after I finally finish the damn game but I can tell you that it is still the best rifle thanks to only -15% move and shoot precision adjustment and lowest AP on shot anyway. Extremely versatile and low damage is not a problem after a certain point. You can always carry around some extra big ass calibre rifle in case you cannot one-shot something with spearhead.

This is how I see it as well. Spearhead is still the overall best sniper rifle by the virtue of having no move and shoot penalty with Strafe alone. The AP refund from a rapid reloader ranges from 10 to 20, so ideally you would want a rifle that costs 30 AP or less to shoot for a guaranteed bonus shot. The only rifles with an AP cost like this, other than Dragunov, are rapid spearhead, 7.62 rapid corsair or 7.62 rapid reaper. Corsair is objectively inferior to all other frames and only ever useful in the beginning when there's nothing else available. The only thing reaper has going on for it is 25% more crit damage, but sniper rifles are hardly hurting for damage, even after the Critical Power nerf. Definitely not at the cost of not being able to move and shoot with no penalty. Bigger sniper rifles might still have some niche uses like 1-shoting bosses on DOMINATING, but that's it really.