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Underrail: The Incline Awakens

Parabalus

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Underrail has cooldowns so it's either high AG/DEX - Dodge/Evasion, or high STR/CON - heavy armour, or some other defensive setup

You don't need these defenses, even on DOM - a good amount of builds have no Dodge/Evasion and run 3 CON.

Like, Fallout is very generous concerning weapons STR requirements; Underrail requires minimal 6 to use even the lightest assault rifle without penalties

But you could have swapped to e.g. SMGs or shotguns or pistols without too much trouble when you realised you can't use ARs.

If you just pump the main attribute of your skill to 18 it's hard to screw up enough to make the game unfinishable, which is kinda a super safe choice.
 

ciox

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The game still lets you use shield emitters with tons of HP as a crutch if your character isn't specced for other defensive options, as seen in the video linked earlier.
 

Ol' Willy

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You don't need these defenses, even on DOM - a good amount of builds have no Dodge/Evasion and run 3 CON.
Shields? Abuse of MPs? PSIonic protection? No doubt, this defenses are viable, but how easy is to realize this from the start?
But you could have swapped to e.g. SMGs or shotguns or pistols without too much trouble when you realised you can't use ARs.
I did it the other way. I used SMG, but damage was insufficient, I didn't invest in traps or throwing, I didn't have needed feats, so I tried AR.

Well, I don't say that the game was unplayable, after all, I managed to kill those PSI lunatics east of GSC right after the Depot A, but with proper build game became way more enjoyable.
If you just pump the main attribute of your skill to 18 it's hard to screw up enough to make the game unfinishable.
Is it so easy? My current build is a no brainer one. But it has 9 STR for armour, carry capacity and weapons; 10 CON for Juggernaut, Thick Skull and HP; 14 PER for the actual brr. If I pump PER I will lose all my defenses right away.

Thing is, I don't say that Underrail mechanics are insanely complicated and require vicious metagaming; but some kind of manual with basic information would have been very handy. With info like this article.
 

Sheepherder

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Aaaand done. Again.
This time a max STR, no crit hammer ninja on Dominating. Up to 7 swings a turn and 150+ movement points. Balor's Hammer so good, it doesn't need crits.

Tchort. 1 turn kill. Now with video. Short and sweet.
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Faceless commander. As always, first try got cut short by a trap I forgot about.
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Sheepherder
What were your starting stats? Your build looks fun! Are you using heavy armor?
It is fun. Very smooth to play too, as far as glass cannons go. I'm not using heavy armor, instead I'm wearing Rathound Regalia for the +1 STR.
Here's the build: https://underrail.info/build/?HhADC...0mEsKHR8KIPxMqPMKFwoHCtsKm4qOTBeKnlgXisaAF378
I put every point into STR on level up. Lvl 30 feat is w/e. I took Paranoia.
 
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jackofshadows

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Phew, run has been so long that I can't even beleive it's over :D Hitting level cup with oddity is a proper challenge, probably never again.

What can I say, hybrid stealthy sniper is preeeeetty strong. And I'm sure that no matter whatever builds I'll try later more or less this one will remain my favorite (not implying it's the strongest, more matter of preference). Early game is a bit rough but that's the biggest challenge, really. Took both perks for contraction and 20 AP 30 MP for 3 turns is kinda insane. Add to that tons of free AP from killing spree and rapid loader, adrenalin and once tight vanilla AP balance is completely ruined.

Fun thing about the map: whilist it's extremely useful I'm not sure it's 100% positive change for the game. Looking for Protectorate's expedition were much more memorable trip back then and DC were more terrifying. However, I gotta say I like DC a lot, it's a very well done end game challenge imho, just not sure about power distribution - kinda superfluos backtracking.
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No fucking shit, girl, I wonder why?
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I should've pay a visit to them sooner...
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This fucking quest... I should've just reload and stash equipment but nah, went to "proper" way, ended up with trip for back up gear in order to clear the first floor anyway.
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Poor "Big T"
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At least had some fun with the Faceless
 
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Sheepherder

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Damn, I don't want to fight The Faceless. I kinda like this guys, so I befriended them. Do they differ much from the other folk, combat wise?
Having them as enemies make going to and from arke power station in DC a real pita. But the Faceless Commander fight right after defeating Tchort is really fun. And as it's the end of the game, it doesn't really matter if you anger them.
 

jackofshadows

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You don't have to, it's entirely optional. I just killed them for killing sake. You know, like with the Oil Rig from F2. They differ a bit but not much.
 

Stavrophore

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Spoilers about Katya ahead
Anyone knows how to resolve that "frozen guy" issue? Seems she won't talk to player char after discovering that body. Anything you can do beside reloading?
 

jackofshadows

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Forgot to tell you about my biggest and basically, my only gripe about playing as a sniper: range of sight.

I mean, I'm a sniper. I have a super-duper high-tech night-vision googles and some menu says that my perseption stat is very high. And yet some miserable unwashed yokel shooting at me with a crossbow while I can't even see him (say, during camp defence)! That is FUCKING BULLSHIT, alright? Every time bolt was hitting my shield from darkness I was pissed.
:butthurt:
I get that Underrail is a dark place so it's fine that cases where you can properly take advantage of rifle's max shooting range are quite rare but aforementioned situation is too silly. I think either googles or ultra-high perseption should give few extra points of sight, not the other fucking way around even on DOM!
 

Stavrophore

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Forgot to tell you about my biggest and basically, my only gripe about playing as a sniper: range of sight.

I mean, I'm a sniper. I have a super-duper high-tech night-vision googles and some menu says that my perseption stat is very high. And yet some miserable unwashed yokel shooting at me with a crossbow while I can't even see him (say, during camp defence)! That is FUCKING BULLSHIT, alright? Every time bolt was hitting my shield from darkness I was pissed.
:butthurt:
I get that Underrail is a dark place so it's fine that cases where you can properly take advantage of rifle's max shooting range are quite rare but aforementioned situation is too silly. I think either googles or ultra-high perseption should give few extra points of sight, not the other fucking way around even on DOM!


That's because AI has unlimited viewing range, as opposed to player. It sucks,but it was styg decision.
 

Jezal_k23

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Urge to replay every time I come into this thread and builds are discussed. I just keep itching to try out a new build.
 

somewhatgiggly

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I have my save files from when I got into the Lowerdark but they don't work with the game now?

This was a pirated version. I then squared up and brought the thing and the expansion. Do I have to do a whole new run or can I somehow translate my old files to the modern gog version?
 

ItsChon

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Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag.
The fastest hammer in the south.
This build is insane what the fuck. Please drop a build link, are you using Balor's hammer for this fight?

EDIT: Just saw your links, thanks brother, you're a legend. How do you make Balor's Hammer work early game when you're Str is super low? Do you not use it? And are you just walking around with 18 Str, Regalia, and Rathound Barbecue on at all times once you hit 26?
 
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Sheepherder

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The fastest hammer in the south.
This build is insane what the fuck. Please drop a build link, are you using Balor's hammer for this fight?

EDIT: Just saw your links, thanks brother, you're a legend. How do you make Balor's Hammer work early game when you're Str is super low? Do you not use it? And are you just walking around with 18 Str, Regalia, and Rathound Barbecue on at all times once you hit 26?
No Balor's for me until level 20. At level 20 I'm at 15 base STR, +1 from rat fursuit, +1 from rat barbecue, +2 from adrenaline. A lot of fights are over before adrenaline runs out, but if they don't, I switch to a regular hammer.
You can get very high quality hammers from Constantine with 95 Mercantile. I bought a steel hammer that was much better than any tungsten hammer that I could craft at the time.
 

Falksi

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Please rename the thread title. This game is far too good to be associated with the wank that is Star Wars: The Farce Awankens
 

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