Underrail: The Incline Awakens

[Ramnozack]

Is the energy edge emitter worth it for a sword or is the damage lost not really worth it?

 

[oldmanpaco]

Is the energy edge emitter worth it for a sword or is the damage lost not really worth it?

Whats to lose by including one besides ease of repair?

 

[Ramnozack]

Is the energy edge emitter worth it for a sword or is the damage lost not really worth it?

Whats to lose by including one besides ease of repair?

Energy emitters reduce mechanical damage by 10%, reducing the power of your crits.

 

[Yosharian]

Chemistry and to some extent Biology are the only crafting skills actually useful. Electronics is overrated, you can make some useful things like a Taser but nothing that makes a significant difference towards beating the game. Shields are already cheat mode, no need for a crafted one. Same with Psi, if you have Psi you are already cheat mode, so why do you care about a crafted Psi band? Constantine sells you weapons good enough to beat the game easily, and only about 15% worse than the best crafted stuff. And Tailoring is a joke, just get Tabis from Constantine. The game is beatable with a lvl 6 character on DOMINATING, so yes, crafting is for LARPers (i.e. Mad Scientist!) and autism.

Safe to say this is not an opinion that most experienced players agree with.

 

[Jason Liang]

Chemistry and to some extent Biology are the only crafting skills actually useful. Electronics is overrated, you can make some useful things like a Taser but nothing that makes a significant difference towards beating the game. Shields are already cheat mode, no need for a crafted one. Same with Psi, if you have Psi you are already cheat mode, so why do you care about a crafted Psi band? Constantine sells you weapons good enough to beat the game easily, and only about 15% worse than the best crafted stuff. And Tailoring is a joke, just get Tabis from Constantine. The game is beatable with a lvl 6 character on DOMINATING, so yes, crafting is for LARPers (i.e. Mad Scientist!) and autism.

Safe to say this is not an opinion that most experienced players agree with.

You're confusing autists for experienced players.

Of the game's 22 skills you could pick the 8 most useless and still beat the game on DOMINATING without any real difficulty.

 

[Yosharian]

Shhhh.

 

[Parabalus]

Chemistry and to some extent Biology are the only crafting skills actually useful. Electronics is overrated, you can make some useful things like a Taser but nothing that makes a significant difference towards beating the game. Shields are already cheat mode, no need for a crafted one. Same with Psi, if you have Psi you are already cheat mode, so why do you care about a crafted Psi band? Constantine sells you weapons good enough to beat the game easily, and only about 15% worse than the best crafted stuff. And Tailoring is a joke, just get Tabis from Constantine. The game is beatable with a lvl 6 character on DOMINATING, so yes, crafting is for LARPers (i.e. Mad Scientist!) and autism.

Safe to say this is not an opinion that most experienced players agree with.

You're confusing autists for experienced players.

Of the game's 22 skills you could pick the 8 most useless and still beat the game on DOMINATING without any real difficulty.

Feel free to show us how easy it is. Don't take stealth though.

 

[lukaszek]

deterministic system > RNG

 

[madhouse]

... what else would you spend points on? Stealth is one of the only useful skills.

Crafting.

Crafting is tedious and really unnecessary given how dumb combat is. It's for LARPing and autism.

How about you shut your dumb mouth before I drop you like a sack of shit?

 

[Sykar]

Chemistry and to some extent Biology are the only crafting skills actually useful. Electronics is overrated, you can make some useful things like a Taser but nothing that makes a significant difference towards beating the game. Shields are already cheat mode, no need for a crafted one. Same with Psi, if you have Psi you are already cheat mode, so why do you care about a crafted Psi band? Constantine sells you weapons good enough to beat the game easily, and only about 15% worse than the best crafted stuff. And Tailoring is a joke, just get Tabis from Constantine. The game is beatable with a lvl 6 character on DOMINATING, so yes, crafting is for LARPers (i.e. Mad Scientist!) and autism.

Safe to say this is not an opinion that most experienced players agree with.

You're confusing autists for experienced players.

Of the game's 22 skills you could pick the 8 most useless and still beat the game on DOMINATING without any real difficulty.

Feel free to show us how easy it is. Don't take stealth though.

Even with stealth his claims are nothing but hyperbole or he has a VERY different idea what is easy. I guess if you really exploit the shit out of every little weakness but then again I discard anyones opinion whose entire gameplay revolves around doing that instead of playing how the game was supposed to be, like not changing maps constantly when you are losing the battle for example.

 

[Joseph Stalin]

So - which Crafting Disciplines should a Psy build possess?

 

[Yaz]

So - which Crafting Disciplines should a Psy build possess?

Tailoring can provide several damage type immunities(or very high resistances), so that makes it the most vital in a way. Biology with a mediocre investment will make your life easier as it will provide several key consumables. Chemistry will give you various explosives and chemical weapons, but you'd also need Guns and Throwing to make use of that, so I guess it's optional. Electronics will give you good additional defence plus a few interesting gizmos, so you can put a fair amount into it. Energy weapons, as well, but you probably won't use those. Finally Mechanics is for heavy armour, melee and ballistic weapons, so other than the small amount you'd need to make something from the other disciplines you can mostly skip it.

 

[Parabalus]

Chemistry and to some extent Biology are the only crafting skills actually useful. Electronics is overrated, you can make some useful things like a Taser but nothing that makes a significant difference towards beating the game. Shields are already cheat mode, no need for a crafted one. Same with Psi, if you have Psi you are already cheat mode, so why do you care about a crafted Psi band? Constantine sells you weapons good enough to beat the game easily, and only about 15% worse than the best crafted stuff. And Tailoring is a joke, just get Tabis from Constantine. The game is beatable with a lvl 6 character on DOMINATING, so yes, crafting is for LARPers (i.e. Mad Scientist!) and autism.

Safe to say this is not an opinion that most experienced players agree with.

You're confusing autists for experienced players.

Of the game's 22 skills you could pick the 8 most useless and still beat the game on DOMINATING without any real difficulty.

Feel free to show us how easy it is. Don't take stealth though.

Even with stealth his claims are nothing but hyperbole or he has a VERY different idea what is easy. I guess if you really exploit the shit out of every little weakness but then again I discard anyones opinion whose entire gameplay revolves around doing that instead of playing how the game was supposed to be, like not changing maps constantly when you are losing the battle for example.

Even changing maps isn't that much of a help anymore after the FF and 50 AP cost nerfs, it's useful only when you have two viable entrances.

That lvl 6 DOMINATING finish is everything but easy, it's super optimized and preplanned.

So - which Crafting Disciplines should a Psy build possess?

Electronics is the biggest one, for your sorcerer cap. You need middling biology for the relevant drugs, and slightly higher tailoring and mechanics for psi beetle body armor.

 

[razvedchiki]

a sword/pistol build seems fun, 35ap for flurry and an aimed shot with the 15 left. though you could use those ap to lob a nade/pop a pill/reeee to the map exit etc.

 

[Yaz]

a sword/pistol build seems fun, 35ap for flurry and an aimed shot with the 15 left. though you could use those ap to lob a nade/pop a pill/reeee to the map exit etc.

Are you Strength based Versatility?

 

[razvedchiki]

no dex

 

[hell bovine]

The game is beatable with a lvl 6 character on DOMINATING, so yes, crafting is for LARPers (i.e. Mad Scientist!) and autism.

Ironically that run was done with crafting, including a custom energy shield from what I recall.

 

[Yaz]

no dex

That's even better. Considering you're using a sword you could even use a sniper to take down select enemies with Aimed Shot. Energy weapons with Amplification mod and Critical Power would be quite impressive with this. It will also benefit the machete crits, as well. Especially the tungsten ones. But other than that there's a whole host of various weapons to try with this setup. Each can contribute in its own way.

 

[razvedchiki]

nah, only gunpowder rapid pistol fits in the 15 ap area.

 

[Parabalus]

nah, only gunpowder rapid pistol fits in the 15 ap area.

A lot of them do, because of DEX light reduction. Chemical pistols are below that with the belt.
You also have Flurry spec and it costs less beyond the 1st.

 

[CHEMS]

Chemistry and to some extent Biology are the only crafting skills actually useful. Electronics is overrated, you can make some useful things like a Taser but nothing that makes a significant difference towards beating the game. Shields are already cheat mode, no need for a crafted one. Same with Psi, if you have Psi you are already cheat mode, so why do you care about a crafted Psi band? Constantine sells you weapons good enough to beat the game easily, and only about 15% worse than the best crafted stuff. And Tailoring is a joke, just get Tabis from Constantine. The game is beatable with a lvl 6 character on DOMINATING, so yes, crafting is for LARPers (i.e. Mad Scientist!) and autism.

Safe to say this is not an opinion that most experienced players agree with.

You're confusing autists for experienced players.

Of the game's 22 skills you could pick the 8 most useless and still beat the game on DOMINATING without any real difficulty.

Yeah man, how DARE people have fun playing videogames

 

[Parabalus]

Port Zenith's Protectorate is a faction apart the actual Protectorate

This applies to both maps, the one with the energy emitters and the new docks?
Is there even any reason for not attacking the marine protectorates then?

Similarly, is Percival a different faction from the University, i.e. can you whack him for the robes?

 

[CHEMS]

Port Zenith's Protectorate is a faction apart the actual Protectorate

This applies to both maps, the one with the energy emitters and the new docks?
Is there even any reason for not attacking the marine protectorates then?

Similarly, is Percival a different faction from the University, i.e. can you whack him for the robes?

As far as i know, yes. I killed Percival and the Institute didn't care at all. I think you can kill all the tchortists in Core City without aggroing the Institute, though i'm not sure.

 

[Trashos]

Where is this "beating Dominating Underrail with a lvl6 character"? I have trouble believing it, and I want to see it.

 

[CHEMS]

Me too. Doubt it would be possible without cheesing the shit out of the game. My guess is that this was done before the Quick Thinkering nerf.