Warhammer Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader Pre-Release Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Lamiosa]

Info about being able to play an unsanctioned psyker:

spoiler

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Equipable power armor confirmed

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Chaos Marine boss and soundtrack

Boss fight Act1

Boss Fight Act 2

 

[Vasya]

Chaos Marine boss and soundtrack

Boss fight Act1

Boss Fight Act 2

I'm starting to suspect that unfair is not +30% damage after all calculations, but +300%. Some damage numbers just don't make any sense comparing to the beta version. Sure, Abelard is not an optimal tank, since he is not from a forge/death world, but he is not supposed to take 100+ damage from a single melee hit from a fodder.

 

[Lamiosa]

Chaos Marine boss and soundtrack

Boss fight Act1

Boss Fight Act 2

I'm starting to suspect that unfair is not +30% damage after all calculations, but +300%. Some damage numbers just don't make any sense comparing to the beta version. Sure, Abelard is not an optimal tank, since he is not from a forge/death world, but he is not supposed to take 100+ damage from a single melee hit from a fodder.

That's probably a crit. Also unfair also gives 20% to all enemy stats, and probably some extra feats. Edit: and about Abelard not being an optimal tank, maybe that should be considered. I mean, should the hardest difficulty be balanced around the player having 6 optimized custom characters or not?

 

[Harthwain]

I mean, should the hardest difficulty be balanced around the player having 6 optimized custom characters or not?

It should be possible to win the hardest difficulty with well optimized NPC party.

 

[Dishonoredbr]

 

[Desiderius]

Chaos Marine boss and soundtrack

Boss fight Act1

Boss Fight Act 2

I'm starting to suspect that unfair is not +30% damage after all calculations, but +300%. Some damage numbers just don't make any sense comparing to the beta version. Sure, Abelard is not an optimal tank, since he is not from a forge/death world, but he is not supposed to take 100+ damage from a single melee hit from a fodder.

That's probably a crit. Also unfair also gives 20% to all enemy stats, and probably some extra feats. Edit: and about Abelard not being an optimal tank, maybe that should be considered. I mean, should the hardest difficulty be balanced around the player having 6 optimized custom characters or not?

Not

Owlcat games are not one-dimensional*, and likewise the performance that matters is on the party level, not the character.

* - optimal for what? Avoiding the things that most frequently cause reloads? Getting through content faster? Being able to spike vs toughest threats? They're not MMOs where you're just damage racing.

 

[ArchAngel]

I am avoiding all of these type of videos. Way too early to watch spoilers.

 

[Darkwind]

EDIT: Apparently this is old news. But my point still stands, I'm looking forward to my super gay fling through the galaxy with friends.

Hope everyone has some actual friends, you can now roleplay your tranny love affair with your non-binary pansexual partner in REAL TIME as you all frolic through the galaxy together on your fabulous adventures!

 

[Infinitron]

MAJOR HAPPENING. Hope everyone has some actual friends, you can now roleplay your tranny love affair with your non-binary pansexual partner in REAL TIME as you all fabulously frolic through the galaxy together on your super gay adventures!

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Why are you posting screenshots of updates from August

 

[Darkwind]

MAJOR HAPPENING. Hope everyone has some actual friends, you can now roleplay your tranny love affair with your non-binary pansexual partner in REAL TIME as you all fabulously frolic through the galaxy together on your super gay adventures!

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Why are you posting screenshots of updates from August

Competing for your job... seems easy enough.

 

[gerd]

I wonder how long it will take for Owlcat to fix major bugs after release, it probably will take a while...

 

[Cohesion]

Chaos Marine boss and soundtrack

Boss fight Act1

Boss Fight Act 2

I'm starting to suspect that unfair is not +30% damage after all calculations, but +300%. Some damage numbers just don't make any sense comparing to the beta version. Sure, Abelard is not an optimal tank, since he is not from a forge/death world, but he is not supposed to take 100+ damage from a single melee hit from a fodder.

That's probably a crit. Also unfair also gives 20% to all enemy stats, and probably some extra feats. Edit: and about Abelard not being an optimal tank, maybe that should be considered. I mean, should the hardest difficulty be balanced around the player having 6 optimized custom characters or not?

Not

Owlcat games are not one-dimensional*, and likewise the performance that matters is on the party level, not the character.

* - optimal for what? Avoiding the things that most frequently cause reloads? Getting through content faster? Being able to spike vs toughest threats? They're not MMOs where you're just damage racing.

High end mmo PvE (wow mythic raids for example) isn't about damage racing, but more about memorizing patterns and flawless executing as a team. You fuck up - whole raid dies.
You can't just zerg it.

 

[Desiderius]

as a team

High end mmo PvE (wow mythic raids for example) isn't about damage racing

Well usually there are situations where you've got healers racing damage on a tank where that usually isn't the case in Owlcat games, or at least doesn't have to be. As with those mythic raids they're designed to require more than tank, spank, and heal but they can be attacked with different approaches entirely, including of course the zerg which is probably unfortunate. Hopefully this game has more counters to that simplistic approach.

 

[Nortar]

you're just damage racing.

High end mmo PvE (wow mythic raids for example) isn't about damage racing, but more about memorizing patterns and flawless executing as a team. You fuck up - whole raid dies.
You can't just zerg it.

Bro, high end mmo PVE (and especially wow mythic raids) is always about damage racing.
Flawless execution might be a struggle for noobs on lower difficulty, but if we're talking mythic, it's not the one and only requirement for victory, it's the starting base.
A lot (not to say majority) of high-end encounters have built-in DPS checks, flawless execution means not just that no one stumbles over thier own feet, but that everyone pushes their dps/hps output to the limit. I quit that shit after getting Cutting Edge for N'Zoth.

Transalted to Owlcat games it is the same.
Their difficulty settings do make things considerably more difficult if your characters can't keep up with inflated stats of the enemies.
If you want to play on Unfair you'll most probably have to optimize the shit out of your charater and all the companions too.
Well, unless suffering is your jam.

 

[Desiderius]

Transalted to Owlcat games it is the same.

It is not.

I ended up destroying Unfair on both P:K and Wrath without having to heal at all. The Zerg is too strong and so is the control. Even got there with untouchable Seelah tank. And I've seen people nuke it.

It's nice to have a solid group heal up if you screw up but damage/heal racing isn't a thing for the simple reason of there not being bullet sponges.

Hurr durr have to be hyper-optimized with online memes turns out to be the opposite of the truth. Base classes played well in coordination is plenty, and there is room for alternative/novel approaches.

 

[Nortar]

Transalted to Owlcat games it is the same.

It is not.

I ended up destroying Unfair on both P:K and Wrath without having to heal at all. The Zerg is too strong and so is the control. Even got there with untouchable Seelah tank. And I've seen people nuke it.

It's nice to have a solid group heal up if you screw up but damage/heal racing isn't a thing for the simple reason of there not being bullet sponges.

Hurr durr have to be hyper-optimized with online memes turns out to be the opposite of the truth. Base classes played well in coordination is plenty, and there is room for alternative/novel approaches.

- No need for hyper-optimization
- No need to heal
- Just be good, like me
- Get untouchable tank

Got it sensei!

 

[Cryomancer]

Their difficulty settings do make things considerably more difficult if your characters can't keep up with inflated stats of the enemies.(...) No need for hyper-optimization

None of OWlCat games require ultra optimization. I finished Kingmaker with a pure RP build, the worst wiz subclass on unfair, with videos >> https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...-thassilonian-necromancer-with-videos.140352/

You just need to know how to exploit enemies weaknesses, for eg, Ice Prison can trivialize a harsh encounter and be worthless in another.

 

[Desiderius]

Transalted to Owlcat games it is the same.

It is not.

I ended up destroying Unfair on both P:K and Wrath without having to heal at all. The Zerg is too strong and so is the control. Even got there with untouchable Seelah tank. And I've seen people nuke it.

It's nice to have a solid group heal up if you screw up but damage/heal racing isn't a thing for the simple reason of there not being bullet sponges.

Hurr durr have to be hyper-optimized with online memes turns out to be the opposite of the truth. Base classes played well in coordination is plenty, and there is room for alternative/novel approaches.

- No need for hyper-optimization
- No need to heal
- Just be good, like me
- Get untouchable tank

Got it sensei!

I’ve never played a mythic raid in my life, and have trouble keeping up in PUGs. Yes, if I can do it - by reading and using my abilities and not falling for online memes - then it is not in fact all that hard/about hyperoptimization.

To the original point like Cryomancer says it’s more about matching the tool at hand (even narrow or ostensibly suboptimal ones) to the different tasks.

All companions get equal EXP so you can swap them in and out too.

 

[Ryzer]

Is this game going to have mod tools this time around?

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Dishonoredbr]

Leaks

PS5 Trophies

https://www.exophase.com/game/warhammer-40-000-rogue-trader-psn/trophies/
Trophy
Points
Rarity
Earned Date

• 
  
  Valancius Immortalitas
  You unlocked all trophies.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Conspiracy
  You completed the Prologue.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Stolen Star
  You completed Chapter 1.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Trade Empire
  You completed Chapter 2.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Commorragh Survivors
  You completed Chapter 3.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Expanse Calamity
  You completed Chapter 4.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Grand Finale
  You finished the game.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Deepest Conviction
  You completed the game with any Conviction: Zealot on Core difficulty or above.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Overcome and Overpower
  You completed the game on Core difficulty or above.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Too Fast to Die
  You dodged 500 enemy attacks with your party members.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Doom Trader
  You performed 500 critical hits with your party members.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Fear Not Obliteration
  You killed an enemy with 100 damage dealt by one attack.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Pentakill
  You killed 5 enemies with one attack.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Rookie Skipper
  You won your first void combat.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Void Wolf
  You won all void combats.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Purge the Unclean
  You destroyed at least one ship of every enemy fleet (pirates, Chaos, Asuryani, Drukhari, Necrons).
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  The Dynasty Restored
  You reclaimed all the colonies of the von Valancius dynasty.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Highrise
  You completed a colony project of the highest tier.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Master of Trade
  You completed 20 orders.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Light of the Astronomican
  You charted a new path through the warp from one system to another.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  No Stone Unturned
  You visited all the systems in the Koronus Expanse.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Don't Touch This
  Playing on Core, you did not let the Chaos Spawn consume any cultists at the end of the Prologue.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Aviation Saviour
  Playing on Core, you did not let any shuttles be destroyed at the end of Chapter 1.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Those Who Are About to Die Salute You
  You let the Khymerae tear apart all the gladiators in the first battle in the Commorragh arena.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Fully Prepared
  You removed all debuffs from the Rogue Trader before meeting Malice.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Preserve the Architecture
  You killed a defiler without destroying any of the 4 plasma batteries strengthening it.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Jungle Heat
  You resolved the crisis on Janus.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Iron Judgement
  You decided the fate of Kiava Gamma.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  No Place Like Home
  You secured Dargonus.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  A Spark
  You started a romance.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  A Flame
  You found your true love.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  How Did It All End?
  You raised your own abomination.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Whodunit?
  You discovered the truth about Theodora's death.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Amends to the Dead
  You wore the Halo Device.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Frog Trader
  You found a gold xeno-idol.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  This Is a Job for the Lord Captain!
  You stepped willingly into sewage on Footfall.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Knee-Deep in Chaos
  You surrendered Eufrates II to Chaos.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  The Possessed Ship
  You discovered the truth about Nomos.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  The Not-So-Bottomless Pit
  You subdued the Pit.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Sweet Perdition
  You obtained Sweet Perdition.
  
  0.00% (0.0)
  
  
• 
  
  Thank You for Waiting
  You queued patiently with the commoners in Jae's second quest.
  
  0.00% (0.0)

[/SPOILER]

 

[Cohesion]

you're just damage racing.

High end mmo PvE (wow mythic raids for example) isn't about damage racing, but more about memorizing patterns and flawless executing as a team. You fuck up - whole raid dies.
You can't just zerg it.

Bro, high end mmo PVE (and especially wow mythic raids) is always about damage racing.
Flawless execution might be a struggle for noobs on lower difficulty, but if we're talking mythic, it's not the one and only requirement for victory, it's the starting base.
A lot (not to say majority) of high-end encounters have built-in DPS checks, flawless execution means not just that no one stumbles over thier own feet, but that everyone pushes their dps/hps output to the limit. I quit that shit after getting Cutting Edge for N'Zoth.

Yeah, fapping on those sweet orange parses (95th+ percentile DPS/HPS) is par for the course. Snipe healing, properly aligning cooldowns/potions with bosses phases etc etc. What else could you strive for after finally nailing encounter(dozens of wipes ~= several days/weeks) and achieving "farm" status? Optimizing shit out of it.

Edit: challenge is great.
Hope Rogue Trader delivers some.

 

[Desiderius]

What else could you strive for

Breaking the meta. Enjoying process of mastery itself. Groking the intent of the designer. RPing. A lot of things.