Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[SwiftCrack]

Never saw that coming

 

[felipepepe]

RAGE and stuffies.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Goddammit, Brother None....what's the MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEANING OF THIS?!

 

[Brother None]

Goddammit, Brother None....what's the MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEANING OF THIS?!

 

[Roguey]

Wasteland 2 beta: Makes Fallout 2 without any patches look like a solid piece of software.

 

[hiver]

Damage control.

He was excited he says. Stay tuned he says .. hmmpff ..

 

[Oesophagus]

Well what did you expect, the beta will have an influence on previews and sales, better if it makes a good impression. And I'm saying this un-cynically, by the way

 

[Excidium]

You know it's bad when the BETA is not in a good technical state for release.

 

[Infinitron]

I suspect Fargo might want it to be more of a polished demo than a beta, hence he's holding up the release.

 

[hiver]

Well what did you expect, the beta will have an influence on previews and sales, better if it makes a good impression. And I'm saying this un-cynically, by the way

Nothing, really.

Of course tey want to make a better impression. Nowadays beta isnt a beta anymore.
I just hate that fucking american "exciting" catch phrase.

 

[Kem0sabe]

Well what did you expect, the beta will have an influence on previews and sales, better if it makes a good impression. And I'm saying this un-cynically, by the way

After their latest gameplay video, I would venture to say that they couldn't care less about creating bad impressions...

 

[Whisky]

Sheeeeeeit.

Well, I'm comfortable waiting longer. Not pleased, but if they iron out shit before release, it'll end up better. Public betas like these aren't really betas, in the testing sense, they're first impressions.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

“Ok the beta for Wasteland 2 is really close but I'm not quite comfortable releasing it in its current (technical state). I'm excited to get it in your hands but we want to give a little more love. Sorry for the lack of communication on this, it can be hard when you’re this close. Stay tuned!” - Brian Fargo

Typical. Wait until the last two or three days of the month that you give as the release date to announce the delay. I'm pretty sure Fargo knew about the (non-ready) state of the demo since several weeks ago.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Not to mention the standard damage control routine of "we want the game to be more polished" to justify the delay of a beta.

 

[Jaesun]

Not to mention the standard damage control routine of "we want the game to be more polished" to justify the delay of a beta.

Is that a bad?

 

[janjetina]

I'd prefer the developers giving their most conservative ("worst case") estimates to the backers instead of those that seem most probable at the time. Also, whenever target dates are reevaluated internally, they should be reevaluated externally. People who finance this deserve transparency instead of having their intelligence underestimated (with the announcement of a missed deadline always coming at the last moment).

 

[Roguey]

I'd never underestimate the optimism of any given developer. It's possible they really thought they could get it out by the 31st two days ago.

 

[Sensuki]

No issue for me - exams next month.

We won't see it until December or January now though

The issue is obviously larger than bugs.

 

[Cowboy Moment]

Yeah, from personal experience, it's quite hard to adopt a hard "we're not going to make it" stance in situations like these, especially if the team believes they can do it until the very last week.

Although I think they would've been fine if they simply told the backers "We might be a bit late on this one, not sure yet, but there's a possibility we will release the beta in the first half of November." on Friday. Certainly preferable to the current situation.

 

[Cosmic Misogynerd]

Not to mention the standard damage control routine of "we want the game to be more polished" to justify the delay of a beta.

Is that a bad?

Delaying the game to giving even more polish? No. Giving release estimates that aren't realistic and waiting until the last days of the release month to announce the delay? Yes. Saying "the game is good, but we want to give it even more polish" instead of the most realistic "we didn't managed to lift the game up until beta level, sorry"? Yes.

 

[The_scorpion]

so.. brother None gets a cut in pay? no? what is this, lame C&C.

 

[Lhynn]

Wasteland 2 beta: Makes Fallout 2 without any patches look like a solid piece of software.

not very optimistic, are you?

 

[MicoSelva]

Called it - not the delay (which was obvious for some time now) - the whining.

Promising a delivery date and then announcing a delay is bad PR. Promising a delivery date and not saying anything but still failing to meet it is even worse. It is like giving a baseball bat to all the skeptics, critics and trolls and telling them 'whack me on the head'. And they will. Even if beta somehow makes release in October it will still be commented on as 'barely made it'. Why would you do something like this inXile?

No one but the backers who paid enough money for the beta care and I'm reasonably confident most of them are understanding.

Most of them, yes.

 

[Infinitron]

End credits song?

 

[Roguey]

Wasteland 2 beta: Makes Fallout 2 without any patches look like a solid piece of software.

not very optimistic, are you?

Interplay decided that unpatched Fallout 2 was good enough to go gold, therefore this early beta must be worse if Fargo is too ashamed to let it go out to the ~12,000 people who have access to it.