Wasteland Wasteland 2 Pre-Release Discussion Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Infinitron]

Just wanted to add that the idea that inXile could run out of money is fairly outlandish.

Three words: Steam Early Access.

Fargo could put Wasteland 2 up on Steam today and make a million dollars within 24 hours.

The fact that he hasn't already is clear indication that inXile isn't anywhere close to being strapped for cash.

 

[coffeetable]

Number of companies ran into the ground by Brian Fargo: 1
Number of companies ran into the ground by Roguey: 0

Roguey's obviously the one to listen to here guys.

 

[Kem0sabe]

I'm just not so sure they are up to task of providing a good overall experience, the various game elements they have shown either separately or in extended gameplay videos have been subpar to say the least. It was probably not a good idea to have released those videos, especially the last one, the gameplay shown was indeed mediocre.

Let's see how this beta is received, it will either be a magical build that they have been hoarding all along or it will be more of what we have seen, banal.

 

[AstroZombie]

What? He's giddy about playing the beta. #1 fan.

 

[imweasel]

It's 1997. You show the Codex a 10 minute video of Fallout and they declare it as a shit game with boring graphics and underwhelming combat.

Codex is gonna codex.

 

[Roguey]

Just wanted to add that the idea that inXile could run out of money is fairly outlandish.

Three words: Steam Early Access.

Fargo could put Wasteland 2 up on Steam today and make a million dollars within 24 hours.

The fact that he hasn't already is clear indication that inXile isn't anywhere close to being strapped for cash.

Or that doing so would result in a ton of negative backlash. Not necessarily because it'd be a terrible, broken game (it could be) but because they offered beta access to backers at an increased cost and letting anyone play the beta at "just" full-game price would be fucking them over.

It's 1997. You show the Codex a 10 minute video of Fallout and they declare it as a shit game with boring graphics and underwhelming combat.

Codex is gonna codex.

Hey those death animations were pretty great.

 

[Sensuki]

There is probably a bug or two preventing the beta from being a 'wholesome' experience. From recent experience waiting for the Grim Dawn beta, they had a bug in the creature spawning logic that caused certain quest monsters (including the end mini-boss) to randomly not spawn, it took them quite a while to find out what was causing it.

I have a feeling that in the recent 'friends & family' test the initial feedback was "yeah, don't release it yet" - whether that be because of bugs or polish, or both (probably both).

 

[coffeetable]

I have a feeling that in the recent 'friends & family' test the initial feedback was "yeah, don't release it yet" - whether that be because of bugs or polish, or both (probably both).

Could just be that it's a bad game.

I mean the source material wasn't exactly a triumph of gameplay mechanics.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

I mean the source material wasn't exactly a triumph of gameplay mechanics.

No, but it was a great goddamn game and a lot of fun.

 

[Ninjerk]

For some reason the indoor room with the computer reminds me of the Sims....

 

[MrEvilGuy]

For some reason the indoor room with the computer reminds me of the Sims....

Reminds me of Evil Genius....

 

[tuluse]

There's a new interview with Fargo on RPS


But it's by Nathan Grayson

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/201...d-expansion-of-wasteland-2s-beta/#more-177713

 

[Jack Dandy]

I have adblock on for that piece of shit site, so I go in with a clear conscience.

I'm surprised he didn't ask him about how many female workers are a part of inXile, and how he should hire more to be EMPOWERING

 

[Sensuki]

Well at least we learned something from the interview - Silent Move and Scavening won't be in for the beta to begin with.

 

[tuluse]

Grayson is a pretentious fuck, that's why I don't like him. It doesn't matter what the subject matter is.

 

[hiver]

Article goes: beta release date! ... - and then its all - probably in 2,5 weeks,...blah, blah, blah, blah, blah... "we are making the game togetha! - but i cant talk to those same backers except through the media like this."

and all this bad will that has been garnered over this "deal" happened just because they simply couldnt just tell people that theyre going to take more time - on time. When people asked them.

..wtf...

 

[Roguey]

That gas station's come a long way since the Toy Story days.

I’m glad we’re going to get our hands on something soon, but urgh, if it isn’t feature-complete it’s not a beta, it’s an alpha.
...
Games are software, and in software development if you’re not feature complete you’re in alpha, buddy.

Yessssssssss.

This is looking a lot like that never-finished-fallout-game “Project Van Buren” or something like that.

Never-finished is right.

By the by since stealth doesn't even work, expect it to be a worthless afterthought. Fundamentally flawed, etc.

 

[Infinitron]

Roguey, do you believe that PE's beta will be feature complete?

 

[Roguey]

Roguey, do you believe that PE's beta will be feature complete?

Yes. They actually showed us a chart and everything.

 

[Infinitron]

Roguey, do you believe that PE's beta will be feature complete?

Yes. They actually showed us a chart and everything.

OK, I'll remember this for next year.

 

[Roguey]

It has a competent project director, they have six production milestones in which to create content and features and two alpha milestones to make sure it's all in decently-working order. Then it's beta time.

 

[Infinitron]

It has a competent project director, they have six production milestones in which to create content and features and two alpha milestones to make sure it's all in decently-working order. Then it's beta time.

And then thousands of beta testers ask for a new feature, and they get it. Boom, retroactively not feature complete.

But I believe there's a good chance it won't be feature complete even without that. We'll see.

 

[tuluse]

20 months for Wasteland 2 to get to a not quite feature complete beta.

14 months for Project Eternity, and they haven't even shown us a video of gameplay yet.

It's also plausible that they have all features implimented, but they're too broken/buggy/unbalanced to release in a public beta.

 

[Roguey]

And then thousands of beta testers ask for a new feature, and they get it. Boom, retroactively not feature complete.

But I believe there's a good chance it won't be feature complete even without that. We'll see.

And they won't get it because the Saw doesn't bow to pressure and add features just because people ask for them.

If features aren't working properly come beta time they'll either extend the alpha or cut the features.

 

[Zombra]

By the by since stealth doesn't even work, expect it to be a worthless afterthought. Fundamentally flawed, etc.

Yeah, I'm worried about this now.

Superficially, Salvaging doesn't seem to be as big a deal, but on a deeper level, it does show that the game doesn't have a working economy at this time. This in turn implies the strong possibility of a lumbering, bloated inventory system. Maybe I'm just being alarmist. I hope I'm just being alarmist.