Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[ERYFKRAD]

Young man, you are entirely too obsessed and have far too much time.

If only.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Oh wait, she wants to dom you and you have to be a foot stool to romance her?

What are you basing this on

people keep saying you have to kowtow to her bossiness before she warms up to you and very much be a submissive type.

Just like real life then?

 

[RobotSquirrel]

Just as an innocent squirrel, propelled with full force off a cliff, meets a tragic end, so too do the fragile hopes of those unfortunate enough to encounter you on the road.

I'm in danger! lol I will avenge you brother! Dagoth Ur was right! Death to the scalies!

Also who had it worse, punty the squirrel here or the unfortunate squirrel that witnessed the bear scene. Yeah, I think the squirrel that saw the bear scene has it worse, at least punty has been put out of his misery.

 

[Longes]

Just as an innocent squirrel, propelled with full force off a cliff, meets a tragic end, so too do the fragile hopes of those unfortunate enough to encounter you on the road.

I'm in danger! lol I will avenge you brother! Dagoth Ur was right! Death to the scalies!

Also who had it worse, punty the squirrel here or the unfortunate squirrel that witnessed the bear scene.

Are they different squirrels?

 

[RobotSquirrel]

Are they different squirrels?

if they're the same then this was truly an act of kindness and mercy then lol

 

[ADULF HITLOR FAN KLUB]

Is that one of those muscle wizards that Sawyer was always talking about?

(excellent art BTW)

 

[ArchAngel]

Just as an innocent squirrel, propelled with full force off a cliff, meets a tragic end, so too do the fragile hopes of those unfortunate enough to encounter you on the road.

I'm in danger! lol I will avenge you brother! Dagoth Ur was right! Death to the scalies!

Also who had it worse, punty the squirrel here or the unfortunate squirrel that witnessed the bear scene. Yeah, I think the squirrel that saw the bear scene has it worse, at least punty has been put out of his misery.

PETA!!

 

[Israfael]

I remember there was that thread at Larian forums with some sort of interrashual relashuns with animations and such (including some CP-esque scenes with gnomes and so on). It seems that Sven et al. took the notice and improved on it

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Aren't polearms and spears the most common/effective weapons?

Common, yes.
Effective, depends. Military formations, yes. Fighting, only if you and your opponent(s) suck ass.
Versatility is the most important quality a weapon can have. In that regard swords are far superior to polearms. But as such they require actual skill to be handled.

 

[Reinhardt]

katana best weapon!

 

[Hace El Oso]

In that regard swords are far superior to polearms. But as such they require actual skill to be handled.

Spears/polearms require skill to use and have their own martial art just as swords do, even in duels. It is amazing what an experienced, trained man can do with a spear.

 

[whydoibother]

Effective, depends. Military formations, yes. Fighting, only if you and your opponent(s) suck ass.

1v1 spear is still the best weapon. Reach is king. People who think spears aren't better than swords have never played with long sticks.

The reason swords were more used than spears in small scale combat is because you can wear a sword on your person. You can't really wear a spear to the market, or while traveling. So a lot of small peer to peer combat happened with swords, because that's what the people had at the time. If it was organized, prepared combat, it probably featured longer range weapons.

inb4 muh small corridors

 

[Reinhardt]

or while traveling.

why? it's basically staff with pointy end. and staff is useful while travelling, unlike sword.
spear or axe are good items to have on you all the time, sword is useful only for one specified thing - battle.

 

[Yosharian]

Wasn't the spear more commonly used because it was cheaper to produce, and easier to train people to use, than other weapons?

 

[NecroLord]

katana best weapon!

That's it. I'm sick of all this "Masterwork Bastard Sword" bullshit that's going on in the d20 system right now. Katanas deserve much better than that. Much, much better than that.
I should know what I'm talking about. I myself commissioned a genuine katana in Japan for 2,400,000 Yen (that's about $20,000) and have been practicing with it for almost 2 years now. I can even cut slabs of solid steel with my katana.
Japanese smiths spend years working on a single katana and fold it up to a million times to produce the finest blades known to mankind.
Katanas are thrice as sharp as European swords and thrice as hard for that matter too. Anything a longsword can cut through, a katana can cut through better. I'm pretty sure a katana could easily bisect a knight wearing full plate with a simple vertical slash.
Ever wonder why medieval Europe never bothered conquering Japan? That's right, they were too scared to fight the disciplined Samurai and their katanas of destruction. Even in World War II, American soldiers targeted the men with the katanas first because their killing power was feared and respected.
So what am I saying? Katanas are simply the best sword that the world has ever seen, and thus, require better stats in the d20 system. Here is the stat block I propose for Katanas:
(One-Handed Exotic Weapon) 1d12 Damage 19-20 x4 Crit +2 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork
(Two-Handed Exotic Weapon) 2d10 Damage 17-20 x4 Crit +5 to hit and damage Counts as Masterwork
Now that seems a lot more representative of the cutting power of Katanas in real life, don't you think?
tl;dr = Katanas need to do more damage in d20, see my new stat block.

 

[NecroLord]

Nerevar Spears and longspears were very effective weapons (just ask Alexander the Great and his macedonians), but they also had secondary weapons (mostly shortswords) to fight in melee when the enemy troops eventually broke through.
However, there is only so much a devastating longspear formation can do, the greeks relied too much on their phalanx and got wrecked by the romans in short order during the battle of Pydna. Roman infantry was badass.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Spears/polearms require skill to use

Not near as much as swords though

And IMO games should always do them like this :
Spears = low skill floor, low skill ceiling
Sword = high skill floor, high skill ceiling

1v1 spear is still the best weapon. Reach is king. People who think spears aren't better than swords have never played with long sticks.

Nah
I did play with sticks
The trick of figthing against spears is the fear its reach instills, which discourages an opponent from fully committing to an attack
But this only works if said opponent doesn't have any proper experience/training

I remember seeing this funny video that claimed to "scientifically prove!!!" that spears are thoroughly superior
But ultimately it just proved what experience taught me
The swordsmen that failed did so entirely because they either didn't fully commit their attacks, as they stopped/back away at the last moment, or because their "attacks" were just the most clumsy, ungraceful attempts at an attack (yet the author of the video claims they were all "experienced" fighters )
And the few swordsman that did succeed, never held back and actually showed to possess some technique

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

why? it's basically staff with pointy end.

A walking staff needs to be the right length and weight to be of any help. Most spears are top heavy, making them cumbersome, and the ones that aren't can't be used as a walking aid.

 

[whydoibother]

why? it's basically staff with pointy end.

Its absolutely not. Its thicker, and longer, and heavier, and hits on all the tree branches, and you injure your mate when you lower it.

 

[Reinhardt]

why? it's basically staff with pointy end.

Its absolutely not. Its thicker, and longer, and heavier, and hits on all the tree branches, and you injure your mate when you lower it.

why you wander under the trees? decent people walking roads. are you robber?

 

[whydoibother]

why? it's basically staff with pointy end.

Its absolutely not. Its thicker, and longer, and heavier, and hits on all the tree branches, and you injure your mate when you lower it.

why you wander under the trees? decent people walking roads. are you robber?

I don't know if you've seen where old roads go through. There's trees.
Actually, wasn't there a roman roads thread on this forum?

 

[Justicar]

katana best weapon!

For subhuman niggers like you sure a toy sword is enough.

 

[Reinhardt]

why? it's basically staff with pointy end.

Its absolutely not. Its thicker, and longer, and heavier, and hits on all the tree branches, and you injure your mate when you lower it.

why you wander under the trees? decent people walking roads. are you robber?

I don't know if you've seen where old roads go through. There's trees.
Actually, wasn't there a roman roads thread on this forum?

that's job for foresters - cut trees and remove bushes near roads to prevent ambushes.

 

[whydoibother]

I remember seeing this funny video that claimed to "scientifically prove!!!" that spears are thoroughly superior
But ultimately it just proved what experience taught me
The swordsmen that failed did so entirely because they either didn't fully commit their attacks, as they stopped/back away at the last moment, or because their "attacks" were just the most clumsy, ungraceful attempts at an attack (yet the author of the video claims they were all "experienced" fighters )
And the few swordsman that did succeed, never held back and actually showed to possess some technique

What if the swordsman is better too?
And this debate already has enough empirical evidence via fencing and even boxing. The guy who fights like Mike Tyson tends to lose, because step back and jab from the longer ranged guy is too effective.
And in boxing, this is somewhat balanced by the jab doing less damage. With blades, a jab is an incapacitated opponent.

 

[Raghar]

Decent country has big GREEN tree canopy. Not every country is steppe ruled by horse archers.