Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Early Access Thread [GAME RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Roguey]

btw Roguey when will you do your conclusion on bg3's commercial success/failure

a true codex autist will not trust anyone but you to carry out this essential task and pronounce your judgment

https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=768581

There is no official disclosure on the amount of money that has been budgeted by Larian to develop and produce BG3.

Based on my understanding (and assumptions) from what i have seen previously with other games i think that BG3 would have a $100 mil + budget easily.

It is public knowledge that Larian have (they have confirmed this) over 300 staff working across 6 international studios.

Say if we only say 4 years of development 300 staff on say an average of $70,000 per year is $21,000,000 and times by four this is $84,000,000. Then you have other development costs plus after release care of the game will easily add up to 100 mil +.

At this point it's been six years, so it'd be closer to a $130 million production budget. Steamdb estimates sales are already 1-3 million so after Valve's cut they've recouped anywhere from 48-144 million already. As for marketing budget, who knows? It doesn't seem like they've spent 100 million on marketing.

 

[Swen]

So it's confirmed. Larian is the next big WRPG dev.

The big three are: Bethesda, CDPR and now Larian.

CDPR sold out to BlackRock. They are a lost cause.

Serious?

And Bethesda is cucked by MS.

Sad!

 

[Yosharian]

FFS why is this game not available anywhere else but Steam/GOG

 

[Drakortha]

I thought Todd was going to save gaming. Doesn't look so good now, does it?

Don't worry though, Larian's going to pick up the ball that Bethesda dropped and hit a home run. Gaming will be saved, you'll see.

 

[Modron]

FFS why is this game not available anywhere else but Steam/GOG

What you want to buy it off EGS or Origin?

 

[Peachcurl]

Justin Bieber sells a lot of albums.

Yeah, he does. And people who say he's a failure are stupid and wrong. He's clearly succeeding at moving his product, and many people like it.

"But the people are retarded."

The people determine if a product is successful, by consooooming or not consoooooming. So if you will appeal to success, you appeal to the masses.

And this is why Capitalism is wrong: it messes with my hobby!

 

[PulsatingBrain]

I saddens me that the druid-bear fucking would have been considered a silly goofy thing years ago, but has such a grotesque context given what we now know about certain "communities"

Heresy and perversion corrupts just by existing.

 

[Kem0sabe]

btw Roguey when will you do your conclusion on bg3's commercial success/failure

a true codex autist will not trust anyone but you to carry out this essential task and pronounce your judgment

https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=768581

There is no official disclosure on the amount of money that has been budgeted by Larian to develop and produce BG3.

Based on my understanding (and assumptions) from what i have seen previously with other games i think that BG3 would have a $100 mil + budget easily.

It is public knowledge that Larian have (they have confirmed this) over 300 staff working across 6 international studios.

Say if we only say 4 years of development 300 staff on say an average of $70,000 per year is $21,000,000 and times by four this is $84,000,000. Then you have other development costs plus after release care of the game will easily add up to 100 mil +.

At this point it's been six years, so it'd be closer to a $130 million production budget. Steamdb estimates sales are already 1-3 million so after Valve's cut they've recouped anywhere from 48-144 million already. As for marketing budget, who knows? It doesn't seem like they've spent 100 million on marketing.

Best selling western rpg is Skyrim with 30 million plus sales, it cost 85 million to make, 15 million to market.

It's interesting how many western RPGs have managed to push beyond 20 million sales. All of them very action and accessibility focused.

Borderlands 2 with 22 million.

Diablo 3 with 30 million

Witcher 3 with 30 million.


BG3 is an entirely different beast in terms of mass market appeal, but then again, it seems to have captured the zeitgeist, if briefly (before Starfield hits).

I think that if it manages 10 million sales, it will be beyond Larians wildest dreams.

 

[whydoibother]

I saddens me that the druid-bear fucking would have been considered a silly goofy thing years ago, but has such a grotesque context given what we now know about certain "communities"

Its still silly and goofy, you are all just being weird about it.

 

[Darth Roxor]

maybe Darth Roxor can write the negative review

i think i'd rather replay ELEX than try this game

 

[Larianshill]

Wyll not only has a new story, but also a new voice actor. I repeatedly complained that the old voice actor sucks at conveying any emotions, so it's good that he was replaced.

 

[jaekl]

It is silly and goofy and a lot of you were successfully sidetracked by that ursine nonsense, when the issue is much more insidious. It's one thing to have dumb shit like romances to add appeal to the overweight female gamer market, but there are no masculine characters to be seen at all. Only a rainbow assortment of lame and goofy weirdos. Where are the dwarves? Remember when Legolas was the feminine pretty boy of the fantasy world? Legolas looks like Tank Abbot in comparison to everyone in BG3. Same thing with happened with Pathfinder, even the dwarf in that game was a giant homo with a short beard and styled hair - what's going on with our rpgs?

 

[turkishronin]

This game sounds like Dragon Age more and more

 

[luj1]

sorry but the more degeneracy you insert into games, the more people are gonna talk about it

so u cant blame the people for commenting on it

 

[luj1]

My favorite is probably asking that spider woman why she's so fat.

in this game im gonna be as politically incorrect as possible + kill everybody

 

[luj1]

The more I think about the free respec, I don't get a good line of thought about it. Seems like they want this game play almost like DoS where by end game you become a really weird amalgamation of spells and skills without much identity.

they want the "I WIN" button

same thing happened with Pillars when Josh tried to please everybody

accessiblity ruins gameplay

 

[luj1]

I didn't want to interrupt while this guy is having a public meltdown, but here's an interview with Swen Vincke about the future of the studio:
https://www.eurogamer.net/larian-on...g-a-new-era-and-games-youve-never-heard-about

(I didn't read it yet so I can't give you a summary).

I hope they get shut down and lose everything. It's the fate Larian deserves.

back in the day Larian was a C-tier developer

I remember reading the old gaming mags with friends and laughing at stuff like Divine Divnity because there was SO MUCH BETTER stuff out there

now all the old talent is gone, and Larian is getting some exposure because there is no competition

thats really all there is

 

[Larianshill]

and Larian is getting some exposure because there is no competition

There's plenty of competition, it's just that they suck, are old, out of ideas and talent.

 

[DJOGamer PT]

i think i'd rather replay ELEX than try this game

So that means you will play this game

 

[luj1]

Larian have beaten the game that we thought couldn't be beaten. They found the way to make turn-based that sells. Fulfilling the dreams of generations of Codexers.

What? The dream of Codexers is "turn-based thats good" and not "turn-based that sells"

That is maybe YOUR dream because you are a shill with poor gaming standards

"game sells" Wow. Who gives a shit? Skyrim sells too

 

[DJOGamer PT]

Swen isn't here to take part, he's here to take over.

 

[luj1]

These apologetic takes (t-t-they will make a t-ton of money) mean literally nothing. Say something about quality or gameplay

What Larian managed to do is ressurect the old degenerate Bioware-style dating simulators

and yeah infinitron is right in that none thought it was possible, but here we are

 

[blessed king of longing]

I don't give a fuck about what you're saying.

BG3 is lazy millenial/zoomer pandering gutter trash.

BG2 was a classic. Stop being a cunt.

Very strong "defending a game i haven't played, so i get hardcore street cred among the nerds" vibes.

I grew up playing BG2. I first got that game when I was 11 years old, it was spread out on like 5 disks. One of the very first RPG's I ever played, along with Fallout 1&2 and Zelda on N64.

New Zelda is trash. New Fallout trash. Now Baldur's Gate is TRASH. How good is that?

zelda was always trash for trannies. now i can see why you are so twisted up inside. literally crawling in your skin, these wounds they will not heal

 

[PulsatingBrain]

These apologetic takes (t-t-they will make a t-ton of money) mean literally nothing. Say something about quality or gameplay

I don't think anyone's trying to sell you this game

 

[Abu Antar]

I just want fun combat and exploration. For me, that was decent in DOS1, and less good in DOS2, but still passable enough for me to finish the game.