Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 Pre-Release Thread [EARLY ACCESS RELEASED, GO TO NEW THREAD]

[Xamenos]

Is this an actual thing someone has said and is influencing decisions or is it made up? Orcs being interpreted as race stereotypes is nothing new, obviously, but I mean it in the context of current day D&D.

Oh, how naive you are.

It is #CurrentYear, after all.

 

[Bara]

EDIT: Beaten like an abused housewife.
Do we think that they'll add half orcs? We'll probably see gnomes, too.

If they're holding true what they said originally everything from the core book will be in the game and half-orcs are in there. Or am I mistaken and they only confirmed that core corerulebook classes and not races?

As for the file size being being 70~80gb really hope they don't do what they did with DOS2 and make the base game get installed with the eventual "enhanced edition" version thus unnecessarily beefing up your download size.

 

[Lacrymas]

Is this an actual thing someone has said and is influencing decisions or is it made up? Orcs being interpreted as race stereotypes is nothing new, obviously, but I mean it in the context of current day D&D.

Oh, how naive you are.

It is #CurrentYear, after all.

I don't see anything in there that indicates half-orcs are no longer going to be included and/or playable?

 

[Goose]

80 gigs is ridiculous for a game with just 3d isometric maps, goblins and stuff wtf.

They gotta make room for all the voice acting and graphics, maybe some sex scenes you know? All the hallmarks of a good isometric RPG.

These stubborn old farts aren't upgrading their systems either, they need to be dragged kicking and screaming into 2020. Big daddy tech needs a piece of that a$$ too.

 

[Drakortha]

80 gigs is ridiculous for a game with just 3d isometric maps, goblins and stuff wtf.

They gotta make room for all the voice acting and graphics.

yes Swen did mention about a dozen times in that recent stream that there are 30k lines of voiced dialogue in the game already. It was very impressive!

 

[Xamenos]

Is this an actual thing someone has said and is influencing decisions or is it made up? Orcs being interpreted as race stereotypes is nothing new, obviously, but I mean it in the context of current day D&D.

Oh, how naive you are.

It is #CurrentYear, after all.

I don't see anything in there that indicates half-orcs are no longer going to be included and/or playable?

I thought you were asking about the "having Orcs in DnD is racism in disguise targeted at black people!" part, not whether half-orcs are going to be playable. I don't think there's been an official statement either way, but I expect they'll be in. Given that according to the American antiracists orcs=blacks now, it would be problematic to the extreme if Wizards literally erased them from the game.

 

[Narax]

I always thought that orcs are more associated with high english culture

 

[J1M]

Half of the size is uncompressed voice acting for languages you will never use.

 

[Thonius]

So larian discovered 4k 8k textures? Fascinating.
Also larian account to use crossplay? Gay.
The one thing I need more is - more useless accounts in more useless services password to which I'll always forget also data mining and data sell. I do not consent to selling data regarding my preferred waifus to chinese.

 

[Roguey]

I don't know how GOG's download/installation process works, but it sounds like it's a Steam issue only.

Well you have to download the installer and it unpacks from there.

Galaxy would work just like Steam.

 

[Ontopoly]

I'm glad you guys are starting to realize how bad and damaging this game will be. It's just unfortunate there wasn't enough push back right when they announced it. I tried to warn everybody but they kept saying things like "You haven't played it" and "It's too early to tell, stop jumping to conclusions" but everything I said from the beginning has turned out to be true. You didn't believe me back then and you'll probably make the same mistake of not believing me on release day when you buy this. Listen to me this time, don't buy it.

Bought.

Eat my ass you soulless passionless fuck.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I'm glad you guys are starting to realize how bad and damaging this game will be. It's just unfortunate there wasn't enough push back right when they announced it. I tried to warn everybody but they kept saying things like "You haven't played it" and "It's too early to tell, stop jumping to conclusions" but everything I said from the beginning has turned out to be true. You didn't believe me back then and you'll probably make the same mistake of not believing me on release day when you buy this. Listen to me this time, don't buy it.

Bought.

Eat my ass you soulless passionless fuck.

Stop shilling for Larian so much.

 

[Harthwain]

Is this an actual thing someone has said and is influencing decisions or is it made up? Orcs being interpreted as race stereotypes is nothing new, obviously, but I mean it in the context of current day D&D.

It's an actual thing some people say and it is influencing decisions (as Xamenos pointed out). However, it's largely me being overly pessimistic, because of state of the world being what it is.

As long as Half-Orcs are on this page, they will make it into the game: https://dnd.wizards.com/races

I see. Thanks for clearing this one up. In this day and age one can't be sure anymore.

 

[Nano]

Half of the size is uncompressed voice acting for languages you will never use.

It's okay, Fitgirl will save us (again).

 

[rusty_shackleford]

Early Access is It is a shame they are bringing back tactical RPGs but didn't try to bring back decent business practices in gaming too.

If you don't like early access you can just not play it until it releases?

Yes but it is part of a huge systemic problem.

How is marking your game as early access a problem compared to flat out just releasing an unfinished product like every other developer does?

Lots of ways. Really it is the exact same thing, sell something that isn't finished, and some small print that says early access. People should be more savvy but they aren't, so, companies exploit this by selling unfinished crap all over the place. This is also normalising the whole concept of selling unfinished crap like it is somehow ok. It isn't ok. I think the worst thing of all is that people have given away all our power. You used to get great value in gaming, you would buy a game for a fixed price, a fair price too, and there were no extras. They may release more content but it would be an expansion pack and it was huge and it was also fairly priced. But over the decades, shitlords have been constantly seeing how far they can push it. Horse armor, paying for mods, releasing empty crap games and then put some content in later as DLC and charge them again, selling games in an 'episodic' way, games as a service, etc. There is no putting the genie back in the lamp now! Companies are lions and gamers have proven they are an injured 3 legged retarded sheep in handcuffs.

 

[Harthwain]

Sugar is a drug.

 

[Gyor]

Wait, eight races. The Panel From Hell update back in August said nine: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads...s-on-october-6th.127856/page-743#post-6876833

At the start of Early Access, support for custom characters will consist of 6 classes and 9 races, with several subclasses and subraces included.

Of the nine races, one was Half Drow, which they turned into a Subrace for Half Elf instead. So you trade a race for a subrace.

But the subraces total increased, because now Drow have subraces and you get 3 Tiefling subraces, there are 14 subraces and 2 none subrace races. I don't know if variant human will be in the game, but I prefer it to regular human.

 

[Gyor]

EDIT: Beaten like an abused housewife.
Do we think that they'll add half orcs? We'll probably see gnomes, too.

I think it would be weird if they dropped Half-Orc, they're a classic. Gnomes too, even though they always felt loosely defined more like a Dwarven/Halfling subrace, but it would certainly suck if standard races were neglected in favour of Declinosaurus.

I'd be shocked if at minium we don't also get Gnomes (they are in the game), Half Orcs, Dragonborn, Aasimar (Aasimar should have been in the PHB along with Genasi).

 

[Thonius]

Nobody cares about gnomes and half-lings... just waste of resources.

 

[Ontopoly]

Nobody cares about gnomes and half-lings... just waste of resources.

I care about killing them

 

[Desiderius]

Is this an actual thing someone has said and is influencing decisions or is it made up? Orcs being interpreted as race stereotypes is nothing new, obviously, but I mean it in the context of current day D&D.

Oh, how naive you are.

It is #CurrentYear, after all.

I don't see anything in there that indicates half-orcs are no longer going to be included and/or playable?

I thought you were asking about the "having Orcs in DnD is racism in disguise targeted at black people!" part, not whether half-orcs are going to be playable. I don't think there's been an official statement either way, but I expect they'll be in. Given that according to the American antiracists orcs=blacks now, it would be problematic to the extreme if Wizards literally erased them from the game.

We’re talking about half-orcs, not orcs.

The white half is even more problematic.

 

[Desiderius]

Sugar is a drug.

Artificial sweeteners turn out to be worse.

Made the break to unsweet tea last year.

 

[d1r]

Nobody cares about gnomes and half-lings... just waste of resources.

One of my most interesting BGT playthroughs was a Dart throwing Fighter Halfling crushing mages left and right.

Darts Grandmaster is seriously underrated.

I insist on my Halflings!

 

[anvi]

Early Access is It is a shame they are bringing back tactical RPGs but didn't try to bring back decent business practices in gaming too.

If you don't like early access you can just not play it until it releases?

Yes but it is part of a huge systemic problem.

How is marking your game as early access a problem compared to flat out just releasing an unfinished product like every other developer does?

Lots of ways. Really it is the exact same thing, sell something that isn't finished, and some small print that says early access. People should be more savvy but they aren't, so, companies exploit this by selling unfinished crap all over the place. This is also normalising the whole concept of selling unfinished crap like it is somehow ok. It isn't ok. I think the worst thing of all is that people have given away all our power. You used to get great value in gaming, you would buy a game for a fixed price, a fair price too, and there were no extras. They may release more content but it would be an expansion pack and it was huge and it was also fairly priced. But over the decades, shitlords have been constantly seeing how far they can push it. Horse armor, paying for mods, releasing empty crap games and then put some content in later as DLC and charge them again, selling games in an 'episodic' way, games as a service, etc. There is no putting the genie back in the lamp now! Companies are lions and gamers have proven they are an injured 3 legged retarded sheep in handcuffs.

I don't buy any of it anyway but what does that solve? The "shut up and take my money" generation outnumbers people with brains so you guys won. You got it your way, don't worry.

 

[Zed Duke of Banville]

Nobody cares about gnomes and half-lings... just waste of resources.

One of my most interesting BGT playthroughs was a Dart throwing Fighter Halfling crushing mages left and right.

Darts Grandmaster is seriously underrated.

I insinst on my Halflings!