Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate 3 RELEASE THREAD

[Cnaiur]

Larian dared to take risks - to the point where they face bankruptcy multiple times - where Obsidian painstakingly tried to sell nostalgia. Not that they were bad games, but they sure as shit didn't do anything to appeal to a new audience.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Larian dared to take risks - to the point where they face bankruptcy multiple times - where Obsidian painstakingly tried to sell nostalgia. Not that they were bad games, but they sure as shit didn't do anything to appeal to a new audience.

Josh himself is a risk-averse guy. He has spent his whole career under Feargus, except for a small 1-2 years break which turned out bad for him, and he returned.

 

[Lyric Suite]

So i checked the steam forums and every other thread is people complaining about the gay sex shit.

Lmao they must have made it incredibly easy to trigger.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Ziets made MotB not Sawyer.

Yeah, but where is Ziets today? Not under Feargus.
Retention... US companies and mentality vs European ones...

 

[whydoibother]

Ziets made MotB not Sawyer.

I was being funny, I know Sawyer wasn't big on that project. I actually asked him to comment on WASD movement for such 3D games during his Baldur's Gate 3 stream, he couldn't even remember if NWN2 had WASD movement. Said he only worked on that game a bit at the end.

Yeah, but where is Ziets today?

Made his own studio, which hasn't made any games yet https://twitter.com/DigimancyGames

 

[Non-Edgy Gamer]

Check this out guys

Second option is the correct one, and she agrees lol.

 

[gurugeorge]

Why the butthurt rating, I specifically said "roleplay as" meaning you aren't a massive faggot irl

Oh I see. In that case: it does not feel good.

Actually, on that subject, I wish RPG devs in general would understand that we do not want to see our character's face reacting to something unless it's a dialog choice we've made.

I cannot count the number of times I've been taken out of the moment by my character miming some stupid, gay or just incongruous emotion in dialog.

I am the player. I should be the one to react or not react.

That Gale scene was case in point the worst example of it I've seen in a long time.

Bingo. It's really stupid when we're told we weren't given a voice-acted protagonist because the devs don't want to thrust a tone at you that you don't have in your head, when we have all this goofy leering and quizzical expressioneering from our own character.

 

[duskvile]

It means Josh and most other devs are too lazy/incompetent to also make a game like BG3, elden ring,...

Obsidian could make a game like BG3 but doesn't have the budget since game development in Belgium and California isn't the same. Also Larian is like 5 times bigger than Obsidian.

 

[whydoibother]

Obsidian could make a game like BG3 but doesn't have the budget

They had the budget, the license, the staff, and made Neverwinter Nights 2.
Also current day Obsidian has more money than Larian, did you forget the Microsoft deal?

 

[Steezus]

To add to that, the xp you get doesn't seem enough even though I am doing side quests, I can't progress the main quest unless I go around scouring the map and complete more. I'm at level 4, the next main quest is set at level 6, what the fuck. Why even make shit optional.

Not enough exp? I just reached act 2 and I'm lvl 7. 5 more levels left for two entire acts.

So what would be better, use them or make your own?

Dark Urge since it allows character customisation and has a unique personal quest. You can actively try to fight the temptations (though there is at least a few scenes where you're compelled to murder with no save)

Durge has the purported potential of making yuge changes to your game later on though, so enter at your own peril.

Honestly, pretty disappointed with Durge so far. There was basically nothing expect for killing a squirrel and a random shit who cares NPC.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Made his own studio, which hasn't made any games yet https://twitter.com/DigimancyGames

Exactly, I was asking rhetorically

 

[Reinhardt]

Don't be like me and assume a damaged bridge will be repaired as the story progresses, when you can just jump across the little gap in it.

that's MOST important advice to new players: if you see some place you can't reach - try to jump there.

 

[potatojohn]

The fact that other characters speak, emote, do stuff, while your PC just watches like a deaf mute is really bizarre.

Like watching a movie but only half the dialogue is acted, and the other half is just characters standing around and subtitles.

 

[AwesomeButton]

They had the budget, the license, the staff, and made Neverwinter Nights 2.
Also current day Obsidian has more money than Larian, did you forget the Microsoft deal

What it doesn't have is the mature 3D tech, and most importantly, the quest and narrative designers.

The fact that other characters speak, emote, do stuff, while your PC just watches like a deaf mute is really bizarre.

Like watching a movie but only half the dialogue is acted, and the other half is just characters standing around and subtitles.

Yeah, I kind of expected the game to feel so, and it does. Pretty much as it felt in DA:O.

 

[whydoibother]

The fact that other characters speak, emote, do stuff, while your PC just watches like a deaf mute is really bizarre.

The MC used to talk, they voiced everything in Act I. People complained, and it was removed.
Similarly, people complained when the Fallout 4 MC talked, and mods removed it to make him mute again.
Most people want a silent protagonist, to help immerse yourself into him.

 

[MerchantKing]

I'm glad I didn't spend money on this.

 

[AwesomeButton]

Most people want a silent protagonist, to help immerse yourself into him.

I'm fine with mute everyone, but then take away the silly faces too. Back to Morrowind!

Seriously, Tav would look less weird without the face expressions and most of the body animations. I hope they intend to work on these post-release.

 

[Tyranicon]

There's a fair amount of bugs in Act 3. Things are triggering all over the place that I haven't done. Also Shadowtits is being neurotic and switching her appearance every other time we're in camp and I don't even have any mods installed.

Then again, she is a woman. Hmmm.

I just wish she would settle on the vastly more attractive version of her hairstyle.

 

[Reinhardt]

So i checked the steam forums and every other thread is people complaining about the gay sex shit.

Lmao they must have made it incredibly easy to trigger.

but HOW? make male character, take women party members, BINGO! NO GHEY SEGGS EVER!

 

[bobocrunch]

i think a big part of where the games budget / anomaly status shines is in the animations and dialogue, can talk shit on specific issues or some odd movements but as a whole you can tell they cut 0 corners. theres no 4 canned animations of people flapping their arms that you have to stare at for 50 hours like in every other zoom-in dialogue talker game. these are fun to watch because you actually see shit happen

 

[d1r]

There's a fair amount of bugs in Act 3. Things are triggering all over the place that I haven't done. Also Shadowtits is being neurotic and switching her appearance every other time we're in camp and I don't even have any mods installed.

Then again, she is a woman. Hmmm.

I just wish she would settle on the vastly more attractive version of her hairstyle.

How big is Baldurs Gate?

 

[Lemming42]

It's just weird because the game does thrust a personality on you anyway. Not just through the Mr Bean style gurning and slack-jawing you do in cutscenes but also through the voiced lines you have when examining shit or giving commands. There's one early on where if you kill the injured Mindflayer, your character says some shit like "death was too good for him". What the fuck? I'll decide whether or not I think that.

I'm guessing the voiced incidental lines are another thing that's there just because they were there in older games, even though they're shit.

Given that they don't really give you a massive range in the beliefs you can express and the tones you can take in dialogue, it'd be way better if they had just voiced all the PC's dialogue in a fairly neutral tone, maybe adding a bit more inflection on lines with very obvious intents. Sort of like Mass Erect did - you can't really warm up to Shepard because s/he's so neutral and boring, but at least s/he doesn't look like a weird spazzy mute.

 

[duskvile]

They had the budget, the license, the staff, and made Neverwinter Nights 2.
Also current day Obsidian has more money than Larian, did you forget the Microsoft deal?

I'm not sure Microsoft would throw such money for additional staff in Obsidian. I believe the most of the bugdet in BG3 went to art. Maybe if Obsidian outsources art in Malaysia like Larian did. Other thing is the engine infrastructure powerful enough for such open interconnected worlds.

 

[Sunri]

So i checked the steam forums and every other thread is people complaining about the gay sex shit.

Lmao they must have made it incredibly easy to trigger.

but HOW? make male character, take women party members, BINGO! NO GHEY SEGGS EVER!

Just tell them to fuckoff once in first act, and they never bring it again lol

 

[gurugeorge]

Did we really need 2 identical angry masculine girl boss stereotype characters right from the get go?
The gith (angry alien girlboss) and demon (angry alien girlboss) are both the same character

They are completely different outside of being angry

Karlach isn't angry. She's happy-go-lucky except for like 3 times where she sees Baddy Doing Stuff.

The bit where she goes apeshit wrecking destructibles in the building after your team wins a certain combat was actually quite funny. You think she's done and you're about to click on her to converse and ask what's up, then she starts up again - several times.