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A) Forgotten realms are not inherently European.

Forgotten realms is an hodge podge of various historically inspired settings, with Baldur's Gate being clearly based off European middle ages.

Everything in Baldur's Gate 1 is European based. Baldur's Gate 2 looks a bit different because Ann was meant to be more exotic.

In the intro trailer of Baldur's Gate 3 we clearly see a medieval town being attacked by the Warith, i mean the Ilithid ship.
That is largerly inaccurate. Being historically inspired dosn't mean that everything must be exactly historical. You always had powerful female on power in FR exactly as the males.

You also had powerful females in real history as well, queens and other noble figures (rich women in Rome tended to have a certain degree of influence due to their patronage etc). And in most mythologies you also had powerful godesses that's not the issue either. What you never saw is something like a female general (no, Joan of Arc doesn't count. She led as a saint, not as a soldier) or anything that suggested women could actually fullfill typical masculine roles.

So, ironically, a famale goddess is actually not as "pozzed" as a female captain of the guards in a big medieval city. But observe that the point of the exchange with the goblin was not to establish that there's such a thing as goddesses, but to correct the player's perception, written into his PC, that a term like "absolute" has to automatically pertain to a god.
Again you the mistake you do is placing historical where it don't belongs. There are plenty of powerfull female figures in FR and even way before the 3.5 there were plenty of them. If a fantasy and is not meant to be historical. Fantasy and yes even western one had always some female figures in position of prestige and power is "Pozzed today" because today there is outrage culture and it's 2023.
 

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BTW, the most blatant example of niggerification i've ever seen was in Pillars and its sequel, when they culturally appropriated Renaissance Italy and turned it into a straight up full blown nigger culture, which ironically is actually racist since i'm sure the reason they did that was to "show" niggers could develop a sophisticated culture (which implies the real cultures produced by Africans aren't sophisticated).
 

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Niggers don't belong in this game unless it is specified they come from a far off region where they are common.
This is NuDND where race and ethnicity do not matter. There are niggers in the Frozen North. The people handling the setting are typical American liberals who think adding black people (and only black people, because those are the only ethnics they know) isthe height of moral righteousness.
What's the ingame explaination for having different races of humans? We have different races of people because we grew up in different enviroments that caused us to develop to adept to this different environments over thousands of years. So why do we have black and white people in this setting?
Humans evolved like they did on Earth, with blacks down South and later a bunch of Mesopotamians and Egyptians got brought over too.

As to why the city has a significant population of influential blacks: Read above.
 
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Niggers don't belong in this game unless it is specified they come from a far off region where they are common.
This is NuDND where race and ethnicity do not matter. There are niggers in the Frozen North. The people handling the setting are typical American liberals who think adding black people (and only black people, because those are the only ethnics they know) isthe height of moral righteousness.
What's the ingame explaination for having different races of humans? We have different races of people because we grew up in different enviroments that caused us to develop to adept to this different environments over thousands of years. So why do we have black and white people in this setting?
Baldur's gate by the setting was always cosmopolitan. The setting have different provinces that are not european based at all. Calimshan is an example. Mulhorand (Very egypt inspired).
 

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Also the real kicker is of course the fact they also had to add Mongoloid and Negro facial features to the fantasy races.
 
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Also the real kicker is of course the fact they also had to add Mongoloid and Negro facial features to the fantasy races.
That is an issue i had. Expecially with elves. Even if Wood elves by the setting had a bronze colored skin. Tiefling are half blood. Same with Half elf and Half orc. In Bg3 elves had human with pointy ears features.
 

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What you never saw is something like a female general
English national heroine Boudica want's a word with you.

Lmao, the fucking pathetic cope. And the fact you LITERALLY think women could be generals. Imagine actually believing this retardation.

You are such a tremendous idiot, it's breathtaking.

Dude, you have profesional wombyn soccer teams who can't even beat a bunch of amateur 16 year old boys imagine thinking women belong in war.

L1bruls are mentally challenged there's no other explanation how you could believe nonsense like this. You know how many Ukranian female soldiers died in the current war? 100, out of fucking 15k or 18k killed in action. ONE HUNDRED. The Ukranian goverment doesn't constript women because they realize that is utterly insane and when shit hits the fan and things get actually serious delusions like the idea men and women are completely interchangeable go out the fucking window.
 

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It always seems to be the same self-destructive homosexuals posting inflammatory remarks that are based on pure fantasy.

Things like "There is literally nothing wrong with being gay/black" to a normal sane person a statement like this is just pure nonsense almost as if it is begging for someone to challenge them with "Well actually... facts".

Why these sick people want to antagonize normal people is beyond me.
 

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How are you going to argue a game with paladins and priests isn't inspired by medieval Europe. Wizards and dragons? All of this is European folklore. There is a little bit of Asian creeping in with the monk class and weapons like scimitars. But it's nearly all inspired by European history and mythology
 

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What you never saw is something like a female general
English national heroine Boudica want's a word with you.

Lmao, the fucking pathetic cope. And the fact you LITERALLY think women could be generals. Imagine actually believing this retardation.
Despite your mindset this is not the place to discuss such matters.

I expect this derail will be pruned all though for a game like this discussions of this kind are inevitable. Don't forget, we didn't bring the woke into it, the devs did.

If this game had the same level of "wokeness" as BG1, which is to say, not much, the reaction would have been unanimously positive here despite the mid writing and other flaws the game may have.
 

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Any verdict on the general itemization so far? Act 2 now and it's miles ahead of something like Pillars.
I do miss the oldschool "one +1 weapon" feels really special vibe, but many items enable a lot of buildfaggotry if that's your cup of tea.
There are some very good items, especially accessories like belts and rings that remain useful the entire game but it is sometimes difficult to sift through all the stuff you end up finding. Weapons however seem to be rather boring. For example I've not found any polearms that are particularly interesting. Best I have is a halberd with extra force damage.

A lot of the conditional effects just aren't worth paying attention to because most fights are over within 3 rounds anyway.
For example there are items that trigger on "if the enemy has 5 stacks of x" but the vast majority of enemies don't survive that long.
There’s a Glaive in Act 1 with Thorn Whip as bonus action, which is nice combo with Glaive reach.
 

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But I guess that's also somehow pozzed. Because everything is woke. Everything is pozzed and you have to point it all out.

Stop it it's clearly written in the game. Absolute in traditional metaphysics is associated with the masculine principle, while Infinity perrtains to the feminine. And the fact the word absolute brings up an association with masculinity in the mind of a person is aknowledged by the game itself since your player automatically assumes the Absolute is a god, which compels the Goblin to correct it by saying the Absolute is a goddess.

So yes, it is pozzed and clearly intentionally so, lile Rey in nu-Star Wars being an usurpation of masculinity since the word Rey is similar to the Latin "rei", which means king. This was also intentional.
(He’s right)
 

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Having diverse populations in a medieval fantasy world (even if there are wizards and teleporting) is poor world building without explanation.

Instead they just pretend that the diversity existed all along and is the natural state of things. The better alternative would've been to weave a rich history of how these different cultures existed and struggled against each other, generating a world that is similar to our own and much more interesting for it.

But instead muh riGHt siDe of HisTorY. Modern writers are brainlets.
 

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All the Chosen are, naturally, White.

I suppose Gorthash could be vaguely Turkish but to libruls that's still White ofc
 

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The artbook is pretty impressive so far. Interesting seeing which changes locations underwent in the production.

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It is a good feeling when I am one of the heroic 4% who gave BG3 a negative review.

Just thinking about the story. It is worse than SoD.
 

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