Cain on Games - Tim Cain's new YouTube channel

[NecroLord]

I talk about how we designed games that somehow predicted future events in our society. TLDW: we were surprised too!

Still not quite as prophetic as Deus Ex...

 

[Roguey]

No actual discussion of games, just 10 minutes of lib-midwittery from a guy who can't understand why people disagree with him.

Every system has trade-offs. There are a lot of people who have problems with the health care systems in the UK and Canada. I've spoken with a bong recently who believed that their personal experience with an uncaring, negligent staff is due to the "conservative" government, as if simply spending more will surely make things better. Over in Canada, people will go to the emergency room for headaches because making a doctor's appointment will put you at the end of an incredibly long list. The Canadian government recently decided that encouraging their own citizens to commit suicide is more financially feasible than treating them. The United States has a different set of problems, and most people here would rather have the problems they're familiar with than the problems these other countries have. A switch would be better for some, and much worse for others.

 

[NecroLord]

This is Tim Cain now.
Probably has been for a long time.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

This is Tim Cain now.
Probably has been for a long time.

always has been

 

[Infinitron]

I talk about the development of Arcanum, from February 1998 to September 2001.

 

[0sacred]

I only listened with half an ear, but did he say Fargo was badmouthing him to the competition? Epic

 

[NecroLord]

Letting a bunch of nerds do their own thing truly can be a recipe for success.
Now it's just constant corpo shit...

 

[Roguey]

I only listened with half an ear, but did he say Fargo was badmouthing him to the competition? Epic

He refused to name names but someone at Interplay succeeded in blacklisting the Troika three, forcing them to make their own company.

Some publisher guy also yelled at Tim for working in C and not C++

Tim liked Sierra and wished he could have made more games for them if not for their financial difficulties.

Interplay sent three legal threats, and after the last one Cain got a good lawyer to threaten them right back. They also lost the Fallout code and asked Tim if he still had it (they ended up finding it on one of their old machines).

 

[Axioms]

Some people might not know this but you can still view lots of old mid 90s Usenet content about Interplay and Tim Cain including responses by community managers regarding Tim leaving during development of Fallout 2. And also lots of random posts by Tim himself, many about the GURPS RPG and his GNW(GNW's Not Windows) windowing system.

 

[Nano]

Some people might not know this but you can still view lots of old mid 90s Usenet content about Interplay and Tim Cain including responses by community managers regarding Tim leaving during development of Fallout 2. And also lots of random posts by Tim himself, many about the GURPS RPG and his GNW(GNW's Not Windows) windowing system.

https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=alt.games.interplay&y=0&r=0&p=1
https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=alt.games.interplay.freespace&y=0&r=0&p=1

This what you're talking about?

Edit: https://www.usenetarchives.com/view...Q5YjNmLjI1NTcxNzQ1NUBlbmV3cy5uZXdzZ3V5LmNvbT4

Look at that, history happening! And also people bitching about the time limit.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Someone has a The Invisibles quote in their signature, good shit.

 

[Nano]

Someone has a The Invisibles quote in their signature, good shit.

More good shit: https://www.usenetarchives.com/view...jEzN2JhLjkyNDMzM0BuZXdzLm0uaWluZXQubmV0LmF1Pg

 

[Melcar]

Hey, Live Sex Show.

 

[Hagashager]

Someone has a The Invisibles quote in their signature, good shit.

More good shit: https://www.usenetarchives.com/view...jEzN2JhLjkyNDMzM0BuZXdzLm0uaWluZXQubmV0LmF1Pg

Based

 

[NecroLord]

Someone has a The Invisibles quote in their signature, good shit.

More good shit: https://www.usenetarchives.com/view...jEzN2JhLjkyNDMzM0BuZXdzLm0uaWluZXQubmV0LmF1Pg

Immersion ruined, huh?

 

[Hagashager]

The very first screen has robed men giving tutorial advice.

Your first companion is a teenaged girl in a VERY obvious '90s "Cool Girl Voice" go, "HEYA! IT'S ME, IMOEN!"

On the second screen you talk a guy down from suicide after making a joke.

The third screen has fucking Elminster show up in a faux-Bri'ish accent and sing-posting himself like a clown.

There's no immersion in Baldur's Gate. You don't play it for that.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

The very first screen has robed men giving tutorial advice.

Your first companion is a teenaged girl in a VERY obvious '90s "Cool Girl Voice" go, "HEYA! IT'S ME, IMOEN!"

On the second screen you talk a guy down from suicide after making a joke.

The third screen has fucking Elminster show up in a faux-Bri'ish accent and sing-posting himself like a clown.

There's no immersion in Baldur's Gate. You don't play it for that.

The Baldur's Gate 3 is not only "a", but THE real sequel. Larian is the only company making crpgs as we speak.

 

[Melcar]

Goddamn larpers

 

[NecroLord]

The very first screen has robed men giving tutorial advice.

Your first companion is a teenaged girl in a VERY obvious '90s "Cool Girl Voice" go, "HEYA! IT'S ME, IMOEN!"

On the second screen you talk a guy down from suicide after making a joke.

The third screen has fucking Elminster show up in a faux-Bri'ish accent and sing-posting himself like a clown.

There's no immersion in Baldur's Gate. You don't play it for that.

Yeah, no shit, mate.

 

[Axioms]

Some people might not know this but you can still view lots of old mid 90s Usenet content about Interplay and Tim Cain including responses by community managers regarding Tim leaving during development of Fallout 2. And also lots of random posts by Tim himself, many about the GURPS RPG and his GNW(GNW's Not Windows) windowing system.

https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=alt.games.interplay&y=0&r=0&p=1
https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=alt.games.interplay.freespace&y=0&r=0&p=1

This what you're talking about?

Edit: https://www.usenetarchives.com/view...Q5YjNmLjI1NTcxNzQ1NUBlbmV3cy5uZXdzZ3V5LmNvbT4

Look at that, history happening! And also people bitching about the time limit.

That's not what I was talking about but it may be substantially similar? There are among other archives a google user groups archive thing that keeps usenet stuff.

https://groups.google.com/g/comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg/c/21JrSNdc1X0/m/ThZS6c9tYhQJ

Here you can see an Interplay CM or w/e lying about Fallout 2 and Tim Cain for instance. There's a ton of other stuff also.

 

[KainenMorden]

The working title of Arcanum was Epic and one subtitle pitched ,not by him, was "Of skulls and scrap faggot green". I'm surprised he said faggot in the vid but he did mention he's "allowed" to say it, not sure what they were getting at with that title. I guess something to do with a bundle of sticks? It would never fly for a video game title either way.

One thing I never knew, your character's name in Arcanum affected RNG? I never noticed anything like this and have done a run every few years or so since release besides playing it to death as a kid.

He also mentions Ed Mortimer and his contribution to the game. I'm convinced Cain browses the codex and not just this thread.

 

[Axioms]

The working title of Arcanum was Epic and one subtitle pitched ,not by him, was "Of skulls and scrap faggot green". I'm surprised he said faggot in the vid but he did mention he's "allowed" to say it, not sure what they were getting at with that title. I guess something to do with a bundle of sticks? It would never fly for a video game title either way.

One thing I never knew, your character's name in Arcanum affected RNG? I never noticed anything like this and have done a run every few years or so since release besides playing it to death as a kid.

He also mentions Ed Mortimer and his contribution to the game. I'm convinced Cain browses the codex and not just this thread.

I believe what he actually said was he played a TTRPG module, Judge or something?, that had subtitles and that one he mentioned was from that, not for Arcanum.

 

[Cat Headed Eagle]

Goddamn larpers

LIGHTNING BOLT! LIGHTNING BOLT!

 

[KainenMorden]

The working title of Arcanum was Epic and one subtitle pitched ,not by him, was "Of skulls and scrap faggot green". I'm surprised he said faggot in the vid but he did mention he's "allowed" to say it, not sure what they were getting at with that title. I guess something to do with a bundle of sticks? It would never fly for a video game title either way.

One thing I never knew, your character's name in Arcanum affected RNG? I never noticed anything like this and have done a run every few years or so since release besides playing it to death as a kid.

He also mentions Ed Mortimer and his contribution to the game. I'm convinced Cain browses the codex and not just this thread.

I believe what he actually said was he played a TTRPG module, Judge or something?, that had subtitles and that one he mentioned was from that, not for Arcanum.

Oh ok, I just listened to it again you're right, disregard.

 

[Infinitron]

Some people might not know this but you can still view lots of old mid 90s Usenet content about Interplay and Tim Cain including responses by community managers regarding Tim leaving during development of Fallout 2. And also lots of random posts by Tim himself, many about the GURPS RPG and his GNW(GNW's Not Windows) windowing system.

https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=alt.games.interplay&y=0&r=0&p=1
https://www.usenetarchives.com/threads.php?id=alt.games.interplay.freespace&y=0&r=0&p=1

This what you're talking about?

Edit: https://www.usenetarchives.com/view...Q5YjNmLjI1NTcxNzQ1NUBlbmV3cy5uZXdzZ3V5LmNvbT4

Look at that, history happening! And also people bitching about the time limit.

My old usenet thread: https://rpgcodex.net/forums/threads/digging-through-old-posts-on-comp-sys-ibm-pc-games-rpg.92017/