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I don't know about Deus Ex, but with Ranged Combat 10 in Bloodlines (except for bringing the weapon up, which is still slow), the crosshair basically stops moving like it should.
The problem with guns in Bloodlines is that the ones in Santa Monica and Downtown have inherently bad accuracy and nothing about your character's statistics can improve them. You're making the experience harder for yourself if you try to use guns in the beginning.
Pretty much every gun is really weak until you get your hands on a Glock and the very powerful Colt Anaconda.
 

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guns are strong from the start against the enemies you're told to use them against, with greater survivability before you build up your soak score, especially for clans with abilities that gel with the ranged feat score
another fake news narrative about VTMB from the fake news Roguey
Can't hit the broadside of the barn with any of them which makes them useless. You're better off using blood buff and going hand to hand (and then melee when you get weapons better than your fists).
 

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Can't hit the broadside of the barn with any of them which makes them useless.
you can, they're not
if you're not making a melee kind of character, guns will serve you perfectly well, at no point will you be left feeling like "boy, I sure do wish I was spamming fisticuffs with bloodbuff" if you had the benefit of perspective

in other news - you don't need the unofficial patch, Malk 1st playthrough is a perfectly congruent experience, guns are great
if you hear otherwise, you're not dealing with someone who wants you to have a good time but someone who wants to be seen repeating "folk wisdom" to others who accept the same "folk wisdom" (folk STUPIDITY more like)
folk stupidity is why peoples dicks get snipped in the US - if you accept bad VTMB wisdom, you're no better than a dick snipper
I've played it three times, with a tremere, guns, and melee focus. The guns sucked and I had a lousy time of it until Hollywood.

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That's the spread of the .38 revolver, intolerable.

Though melee ends up sucking in the endgame, would not recommend anyone try to beat Ming Xiao with melee, need the flamethrower with max ammo to make it somewhat less grindy at the very least.
 

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Can't hit the broadside of the barn with any of them which makes them useless.
you can, they're not
if you're not making a melee kind of character, guns will serve you perfectly well, at no point will you be left feeling like "boy, I sure do wish I was spamming fisticuffs with bloodbuff" if you had the benefit of perspective

in other news - you don't need the unofficial patch, Malk 1st playthrough is a perfectly congruent experience, guns are great
if you hear otherwise, you're not dealing with someone who wants you to have a good time but someone who wants to be seen repeating "folk wisdom" to others who accept the same "folk wisdom" (folk STUPIDITY more like)
folk stupidity is why peoples dicks get snipped in the US - if you accept bad VTMB wisdom, you're no better than a dick snipper
I've played it three times, with a tremere, guns, and melee focus. The guns sucked and I had a lousy time of it until Hollywood.

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That's the spread of the .38 revolver, intolerable.

Though melee ends up sucking in the endgame, would not recommend anyone try to beat Ming Xiao with melee, need the flamethrower with max ammo to make it somewhat less grindy at the very least.
Melee also works, but you need Celerity.
 

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Melee also works, but you need Celerity.
That may make it easier, but it doesn't alleviate that Ming has 1400 HP, spawns clones of herself with 325 HP when she gets damaged enough, and the most damage you can do per hit in melee is 50.
 

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That's the spread of the .38 revolver, intolerable.

If you got that result while aiming at the spot the screenshot shows the crosshairs being, you are experiencing a bug. If you moved between the two spots, everything is fine. I played as a Toreador gunman with Celerity and by the endgame I felt like Neo in the Matrix!
 

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That's the spread of the .38 revolver, intolerable.

If you got that result while aiming at the spot the screenshot shows the crosshairs being, you are experiencing a bug. If you moved between the two spots, everything is fine. I played as a Toreador gunman with Celerity and by the endgame I felt like Neo in the Matrix!
I shot from farther away and then moved close up. The area where you hit is within the reticle (which can't get any tighter unless you directly edit the files yourself), not the crosshair at the center.

The guns you get in Hollywood and Chinatown have a smaller reticle, and thus a more tolerable spread.

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Tim affirms that producers and publishers don't like it when developers spend a lot of money making content that most players will never see. He suggests that they can cut costs by making unique content procedural but acknowledges this is difficult to do in a way that most people would enjoy.
 

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Tim affirms that producers and publishers don't like it when developers spend a lot of money making content that most players will never see. He suggests that they can cut costs by making unique content procedural but acknowledges this is difficult to do in a way that most people would enjoy.

Why are you acting like Tim's translator?
 

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Tim affirms that producers and publishers don't like it when developers spend a lot of money making content that most players will never see. He suggests that they can cut costs by making unique content procedural but acknowledges this is difficult to do in a way that most people would enjoy.

Why are you acting like Tim's translator?
Well, in the absence of Sawyer...
 

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Not everyone's going to have the patience to watch a video or read the transcript or go through the steps to get an AI summary, so I summarize what he says whenever I find it interesting.

You like to do that with Sawyer too. Do you live in their anal crevices? Why do you like Tim & Josh but always dig up dirt on Avellone? Is that because they are gay and Avellone is not? Or because Avellone doesn't like Josh? So many questions. I hope you will answer at least some of them.
 

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You like to do that with Sawyer too. Do you live in their anal crevices? Why do you like Tim & Josh but dislike Avellone? Is that because they are gay and Avellone is not? Or because Avellone doesn't like Josh? So many questions.
I don't fully agree with any of them, but it feels important to me that the information they share about RPGs not be confined to a single source that can just disappear one day. The Fallout wiki has a treasure trove of Sawyer behind-the-scenes explanations because I took it upon myself to save a local copy of his formspring page back in 2013.
 

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I don't fully agree with any of them, but it feels important to me that the information they share about RPGs not be confined to a single source that can just disappear one day. The Fallout wiki has a treasure trove of Sawyer behind-the-scenes explanations because I took it upon myself to save a local copy of his formspring page back in 2013.

Why did you cunningly dodge my question about Avellone? Come on Roguey. Let me repeat.

Why do you like Tim & Josh but always dig up dirt on Avellone? Is that because they are gay and Avellone is not? Or because Avellone doesn't like Josh?

I mean it's obvious that there is something *tangible* in there.
 

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This is very interesting. Obviously you are negatively biased towards Avellone. Very quick to point fingers, spread gossip and dig up dirt on him (and very eager). But whenever Tim or Josh (especially Josh) appear, you will sing odes about them, instantly transforming into their lawyer, translator and promoter. Strong agenda. At the same time, you won't disclose this very obvious (interpersonal) problem you have with MCA. Lastly, you claimed to accept both male and female pronouns, and call yourself a "freak." You are a very interesting person Roguey.
 

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Why doesn't Avellone jump on the "make videos of myself talking on Youtube" trend?
Would be pretty interesting if he did.
 

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Why are you acting like Tim's translator?
Not everyone's going to have the patience to watch a video or read the transcript or go through the steps to get an AI summary, so I summarize what he says whenever I find it interesting.
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>One person gets up and actually does some work
>Lazy people: WTF, why does this forum increasingly reflect the tastes of this person, this isn't the Codex I loved
 

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