Cain on Games - Tim Cain's new YouTube channel

[Kamaz]

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[Butter]

"Fallout was always a critique of capitalism."

> Here's Chris Avellone and Tim Cain both saying that's wrong.

"The great thing about art is that all interpretations are valid."

 

[processdaemon]

It seems like a lot of the drama is people who clearly don't know anything about the games or their creators and are just directionlessly mad about everything.

Favourite example so far:

 

[Roguey]

Might wait to see if he apologizes and says all other interpretations are just as valid as his own.

He included that as part of his initial comment, that he doesn't mind if people personally interpret Fallout as anti-capitalist. The man who wants to be liked by everyone.

 

[Elttharion]

Its pretty funny. When MCA said the same thing redditors were seething and saying things like 'Well this is just Avellone, he only worked on the sequels, he has no way of knowing what the original creators intended, the real person behind Fallout is Tim Cain anyway, etc, etc'. Now Tim said the same thing and their new argument is 'Well a lot of people worked on the games so its possible some of them added those themes without him noticing'.

Spoiler

 

[NecroLord]

I am surprised there was less of an "outrage" here over the "cancellation" of Tim Cain because of his refusal to repent capitalism.

LOVELY.

 

[NecroLord]

Its pretty funny. When MCA said the same thing redditors were seething and saying things like 'Well this is just Avellone, he only worked on the sequels, he has no way of knowing what the original creators intended, the real person behind Fallout is Tim Cain anyway, etc, etc'. Now Tim said the same thing and their new argument is 'Well a lot of people worked on the games so its possible some of them added those themes without him noticing'.

Spoiler

Avellone knows to always pay respect to the source material and carefully study it.
Case in point: Planescape Torment, also KOTOR 2.

 

[Odoryuk]

Actually, that one modeller that worked on 3d models for tiles might have harbour some negative feelings towards capitalism, so... Yeah

 

[Infinitron]

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[Elttharion]

Player 2 has joined the game:

MCA is happy for the support haha

 

[Sinder Velvin]

We need a new Fallout subreddit, because this one is ridiculous:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fallout/comments/1f0eb4y/emil_pagliarulo_says_he_agrees_with_tim_cain_that/

 

[Silvanus]

Fallout makes its core theme clear from the very first voiced line, but it's not surprising that the idiot "media literacy" crowd fail to notice this.

 

[Infinitron]

 

[Alienman]

Makes me wonder what Neverknowsbest thinks about good old Emil now

 

[Butter]

Emil is more based than any of us realized.

 

[luj1]

The last good game Tim made was in 2004. That's 20 years ago.

 

[Sinder Velvin]

Emil is more based than any of us realized.

Perhaps not:

 

[Sigourn]

"I won."

 

[NecroLord]

Actually, that one modeller that worked on 3d models for tiles might have harbour some negative feelings towards capitalism, so... Yeah

It was the 50s consumerist aesthetic of Fallout.
"Let's all drink Nuka-Colas while fucking up some commies! Democracy FUCK YEAH!!!"
That was it.
Of course, the Reddit crowd interpreted it as some disguised critique of capitalism...

 

[Sinder Velvin]

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[Butter]

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OK I take it back. At least he didn't use the phrase "my mental health".

 

[dutchwench]

"Oh shit, I posted something for shits and giggles, but then I remembered people somehow listen to my opinion, and now gaming outlets are discussing what I said."
Wasn't this his reaction to people clowning on him for the Canadian race war thing as well? Will this literal adult male ever stop running from people making funny photoshops of him online?
I can't imagine Todd acting like this. He should do a the Master thing and dunk all of his beta male subordinates in FEV.

 

[NecroLord]

Why are game devs such spineless faggots?

 

[Black]

 

[Cohesion]

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OK I take it back. At least he didn't use the phrase "my mental health".

Back in the day we called such creatures "drama queens".