FUCK YEAH. Time to go old-school swedish viking raids.
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CKII is released.
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Not really, who wouldn't like to be related to the guy that destroyed Khazarian jewery?
That's Svyatoslav a century later, duh.
Also, despite Khazaria blobbing over half the map, PRDX are still adamant on not letting the dreaded J-word into their game (lest someone starts killing and converting them and ZOMG this shall not stand!). Watching them trying to weasel out of it like eels on a pan on their forum is quite hilarious.
Worse yet, Rjurik himself and his original Rus retinue are widely considered to be of pomeranian wendic origin. Swedes couldn't into expansion until high middle ages
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Being self-absorbed and lazy is my culture and I have a proud history of both.
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Vaarna_Aarne
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Yea, Swedish vikings had the tough luck of having their raiding targets mostly be types that killed the fuck out of them if they tried anything funny. Norwegians weren't keen on fighting their Finnish neighbours either, Olaf the Holy suffered a terrible defeat as a young chieftain when he tried to attack the Kvens. A particularly famous incident was when a large raiding party of Swedes made their way all the way to Nokia in order to steal valuable furs (incidentally, the trade route to Kiev and Constantinople sold furs from Finns, with the cosmopolitan Varangians as the middlemen). Well, all is going well and they make off with a bunch of furs without even meeting resistance. Then, while their ships are going downriver, the Tavastians who rule that particular part of ancient Finland spring their ambush, stretching an iron chain over the river and preventing the ships from moving. The Tavastians attack the vikings in a brutally one-sided fight, which leaves the two viking chieftains leading the raid dead, and only a tenth of the men on the raid manage to limp back home. Without any furs.
Multi-headed Cow
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Looking forward to this, though I'll do as I have with all CK2 DLC and wait for a sale. 
Make the whole of England into Danelaw Regain the Caliphate from the Abbasid usurpers as Umayyads Ravage Europe as Magyars Drive the muslim scum from Persia 
Turn Europe into Jewrope as Khazaria (would have to wait for mods adding Jews)
That's Svyatoslav a century later, duh.Not really, who wouldn't like to be related to the guy that destroyed Khazarian jewery?
Hey, being related to Rurik is the same as being related to his grandson Svyatoslav, hence my point stands.
Vaarna_Aarne
Notorious Internet Vandal
I'd give that around 15 minutes or so. There's already mod files for adding Jewish religion, and whipping a new one up isn't difficult.
From the look on their forums - because of larpers whining about "blobs".
Multi-headed Cow
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NYOH MY GOD. Installed the Game of Thrones mod since I was talking to a buddy who was playing it and it sounds great, and I just saw you can play Craster in it. I NOW KNOW WHAT I MUST DO.
Cassidy
Arcane
I'd give that around 15 minutes or so. There's already mod files for adding Jewish religion, and whipping a new one up isn't difficult.
They will have to be mentioned and linked outside of official Paradox boards, however. Not a big deal. I'll definitively LP this potential mod for the the EP with either the Khazars or Viking Norway under the Breivik dynasty.
Dark Ages mechanics will obviously include a lot more autonomy.
Details, details. Only thing that matters is that we finally get to play Pagans Extended Edition™.
Kem0sabe
Arcane
I hope Ck2+ continues to be developed alongside these DLC releases, considering the guy who is working on it is now at Paradox... might not get as many updates.
Wise Emperor
Arcane
I wonder how they will deal with Christianity in 867, before the Great Schism. Will Catholicism be a Orthodox heresy, Pope as a Patriarch? Ecumenical Patriarch vs Pope who is better and why. Discuss!
They may go with the united church and have some schism events. Or dont bother and just make it the same way it was before. After all most of the difference was political, not theological.
Anyway I am even more interested in this now that I noticed it should also include golden ages of pagans like Hungarians raiding the whole western Europe as far as Iberia. Beat that vikings!
Anyway I am even more interested in this now that I noticed it should also include golden ages of pagans like Hungarians raiding the whole western Europe as far as Iberia. Beat that vikings!
Been eyeing that mod for a while. Once it matures, it could be pretty hilarious to have a KKKodex game of Thrones.
As for religion, I think it will be treated lightly as has been the case in CK2 so far. I think their approach is that more religious depth is considered boring by the masses, alas.
The Hungarian ravaging hordes should be cool, they stroke fear into the hard of all isolated county in western Europe in the 9th century. But I'm not sure Pdox will include them in the game.
I'd be up for a religious reform DLC.
I would put much faith on that.
I've been asking for this very vocally in their forums (along some other prestigious members) since the game was launched. The common populace in their forum and more so the average player is too popamolish for playing with more
EDIT: Consider that the game still doesn't have a proper, nay, an actual Council of Cardinals, something that even Medieval Total War 2 had. Their only interesting religious dynamics is Anti-Papacy, but that is to appease libruls and heatens who despise being governed by Catholic Church rules.
In fact, all of the above is the reason why I praised the inclusion of missionaires in the DLC, something that should be considered very important to the time period of the game.
Ivar the Boner
Arcane
Holy shit, will I be able to play a pagan pre-potato (Knowing Paradox I can already hear sweet sound of Bruckner rolling in his grave), and make spread of christianity stop on a rock... A POLISH ROCK?
... no, not this one.
this one:
When it comes to polish rocks, old habits die hard, mutsache stays the same.
... no, not this one.
this one:
When it comes to polish rocks, old habits die hard, mutsache stays the same.
If this should happen, it would probably end up annexed by the Otoman Empire after being invaded by George Rákóczy II of Transylvania, in 1658.
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