Crown Wars: The Black Prince - historical fantasy turn-based tactics from Naheulbeuk devs

[Shaki]

So maybe this is gonna be gud now?

Check and let us know, I kinda feel like playing it, but I don't want to waste time if it's shit.

 

[Ontopoly]

I have no idea how this guy plays through these games so quickly and 100% no less.

He defines 100% the game as getting all the achievements and he's been caught before with achievements that were glitched and impossible to get at the time which meant he used an achievement program to get it. He gave some excuse for it but I don't think he's actually 100% these games. It's just a marketing gimmick.

 

[Nemerra]

I have no idea how this guy plays through these games so quickly and 100% no less.

He defines 100% the game as getting all the achievements and he's been caught before with achievements that were glitched and impossible to get at the time which meant he used an achievement program to get it. He gave some excuse for it but I don't think he's actually 100% these games. It's just a marketing gimmick.

What a load of baloney. He mentions in the videos when he encounters glitched or impossible achievements. Check the timestamps, the achievements were gotten naturally: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Mortismalgaming/stats/1658920/?tab=achievements

Here's his full profile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Mortismalgaming/games/?tab=all

 

[Ontopoly]

I have no idea how this guy plays through these games so quickly and 100% no less.

He defines 100% the game as getting all the achievements and he's been caught before with achievements that were glitched and impossible to get at the time which meant he used an achievement program to get it. He gave some excuse for it but I don't think he's actually 100% these games. It's just a marketing gimmick.

What a load of baloney. He mentions in the videos when he encounters glitched or impossible achievements. Check the timestamps, the achievements were gotten naturally: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Mortismalgaming/stats/1658920/?tab=achievements

Here's his full profile: https://steamcommunity.com/id/Mortismalgaming/games/?tab=all

He has been caught adding them secretly. If later on in some other video he mentioned it, that doesn't change anything.

If you think he finds games on release that have no walkthrough or even information on how stats exactly work (which is usually figured out later by gamers) and beats them in one week then go ahead and think that I guess.

He's been caught doing it before and has probably just gotten better at hiding it.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

Yeah, that´s very interesting and relevant. Anyway, has anyone played this lately? Is it good now?

 

[mediocrepoet]

Yeah, that´s very interesting and relevant. Anyway, has anyone played this lately? Is it good now?

I'd install it and check for you, but my drives are all full of terabytes of porn a bunch of other games that I like to pretend I'll have time to play before I die.

 

[Nortar]

Yeah, that´s very interesting and relevant. Anyway, has anyone played this lately? Is it good now?

Despite some balance fixes the core gameplay has not changed and it's just not fun(?) enough.
I could not even finish my templar themed run.
It's not absolute shit, as it has the right bits in it, but still it's not good enough to spend your time when there are better games to play.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Yeah, that´s very interesting and relevant. Anyway, has anyone played this lately? Is it good now?

Despite some balance fixes the core gameplay has not changed and it's just not fun(?) enough.
I could not even finish my templar themed run.
It's not absolute shit, as it has the right bits in it, but still it's not good enough to spend your time when there are better games to play.

That was basically my opinion at launch too. Some good stuff, reasonably fun, yet given that you have so much stuff to choose from, it was hard to feel like picking it back up.

 

[Galdred]

Yeah, that´s very interesting and relevant. Anyway, has anyone played this lately? Is it good now?

Despite some balance fixes the core gameplay has not changed and it's just not fun(?) enough.
I could not even finish my templar themed run.
It's not absolute shit, as it has the right bits in it, but still it's not good enough to spend your time when there are better games to play.

It is better than at release, but some of the core issues still remain:
- Horrible optimization, especially in menu screens (FPS limit is not enabled there)
- Still no simulteanous movement of your characters FFS (ie, you need to wait for each character to complete his move before ordering another one)
- Many abilities are still subpar (costing an action for little benefit), making level up a non-decision in many cases
- A new character of level 4 remains less expensive than paying to level yours, and there is no trait, so all characters of a given class are identical (if you didn't spec them differently for a reason), which means there is not much variety.

So I still stand by my initial impressions: it is reasonably competent, but flawed, and at this stage, I doubt the remaining flaws will get addressed.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

Kinda sad tbh fam. Oh well...

 

[Fargus]

It is disappointing because it looked interesting and had a budget higher than a loaf of stale bread and expired can of beans for a tactical game. I was even willing to overlook the medieval thundercunt squads.

Guess i'll just go back and finish Dungeon of Nickelback... Someday.

 

[Shaki]

Yeah, that´s very interesting and relevant. Anyway, has anyone played this lately? Is it good now?

I actually played it for a few hours, and it's just super boring. It has all the necessary parts and nothing is horribly broken, but it kinda feels like a generic tacticool #745827 that AI would make. It's souless, everything about it is just meh. Combat is super slow and feels extremely repetitive, leveling is too simple and boring, you have very few tools to play around with, all upgrades are like +1 to dmg +1 to armor, there is nothing to make you want to keep playing, nothing to look forward to.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Dungeon of Nickelback

Talk about a realm of horrors...

 

[Taka-Haradin puolipeikko]

- A new character of level 4 remains less expensive than paying to level yours, and there is no trait, so all characters of a given class are identical (if you didn't spec them differently for a reason), which means there is not much variety.

This is really bizarre decision.

 

[Galdred]

Yeah, that´s very interesting and relevant. Anyway, has anyone played this lately? Is it good now?

I actually played it for a few hours, and it's just super boring. It has all the necessary parts and nothing is horribly broken, but it kinda feels like a generic tacticool #745827 that AI would make. It's souless, everything about it is just meh. Combat is super slow and feels extremely repetitive, leveling is too simple and boring, you have very few tools to play around with, all upgrades are like +1 to dmg +1 to armor, there is nothing to make you want to keep playing, nothing to look forward to.

One bizarre decision is that only opponents get to play with spells and wonky abilities, while you are limited to mundane medieval tools (+ alchemy and guns, though).

 

[Iluvcheezcake]

What a waste

 

[Lhynn]

They should have hired an historian and made the entire narrative revolve around historical events instead of going for supernatural elements. Game feels souless, purposeless, aimless, theres no vision for this shit.
Why isnt there a main character who the narrative revolves around?

Why does everyone in the same class has the same stats, holy shit, why? Wasted opportunity to make your units feel different

What is it with women and niggers? Why?

Overall it could have been so much better if someone that gave a shit was in charge, because the combat is decent, its just everything else thats botched.

 

[Galdred]

They should have hired an historian and made the entire narrative revolve around historical events instead of going for supernatural elements. Game feels souless, purposeless, aimless, theres no vision for this shit.
Why isnt there a main character who the narrative revolves around?

Why does everyone in the same class has the same stats, holy shit, why? Wasted opportunity to make your units feel different

What is it with women and niggers? Why?

Overall it could have been so much better if someone that gave a shit was in charge, because the combat is decent, its just everything else thats botched.

They did hire historian consultants according to one of their interview. The issue is that as in movies, these guys are typically ignored (for plot, spectacle, fun or whatever reason), and are mostly there to serve as historical caution than anything else.
Actually, while playing the game, I was wondering how these historians must have felt, being brought on board to be told no one cared about what they had to say...

Even the armours are mostly LARP grade ones...

 

[Fargus]

Yeah, i heard of this. Russian film makers do it too, i watched a jewtube channel of one such historian and he said basically the same thing and how frustrating it was.

 

[Parsimonious cook]

I would say that in vast majority of cases the historians are brought in only so the devs/film makers can say that someone like that was involved. Kinda like having a token nigger/tranny on the team.

 

[Tyranicon]

I have a feeling historian consultants mostly enjoy the paycheck, the free vacations, and ignore everything else.

"Yeah Gladiator 2 is a work of art, cool, whatever, I don't fucking care."

 

[Lacrymas]

I would say that in vast majority of cases the historians are brought in only so the devs/film makers can say that someone like that was involved. Kinda like having a token nigger/tranny on the team.

It has more to do with the fact *some* people are either in love with their ideas or have to churn out a product, so things like historical accuracy kinda shuts them down in a lot of cases.

 

[Lhynn]

I have a feeling historian consultants mostly enjoy the paycheck, the free vacations, and ignore everything else.

Highly doubtful, nobody becomes an historian because of the money. While you have ideologues pushing agendas there, a lot of them are passionate about history and about "getting it right".

Just picture something you are very good at, then picture a girlfriend calling you over so you can help her with that, then she proceeds to ignore everything you say, doing it wrong in ways you couldnt even have imagined before seeing it, over and over again, for days upon days on end. And then, when you see the final product, it has not even a single redeemable feature, and your name is attached to this monstrosity, and it will be so until the end of time.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I have a feeling historian consultants mostly enjoy the paycheck, the free vacations, and ignore everything else.

Highly doubtful, nobody becomes an historian because of the money. While you have ideologues pushing agendas there, a lot of them are passionate about history and about "getting it right".

Just picture something you are very good at, then picture a girlfriend calling you over so you can help her with that, then she proceeds to ignore everything you say, doing it wrong in ways you couldnt even have imagined before seeing it, over and over again, for days upon days on end. And then, when you see the final product, it has not even a single redeemable feature, and your name is attached to this monstrosity, and it will be so until the end of time.

You nailed it. It's true of academics as a whole. There's the odd grifter, but they're the exception rather than the norm.

 

[Tyranicon]

I have a feeling historian consultants mostly enjoy the paycheck, the free vacations, and ignore everything else.

Highly doubtful, nobody becomes an historian because of the money. While you have ideologues pushing agendas there, a lot of them are passionate about history and about "getting it right".

While you are correct, consider the following:

1. How much actual leverage these consultants actually have
2. What they are really hired for (it's so nobody gets offended)
3. The general landscape of media and it's relationship with "historical accuracy"
4. The inclination of the individual to be a reasonable business associate that doesn't come off as rude

So while the prestigious and morally correct thing is to fight back against the corporate powers that want to put Malians in Kingdom Cum 2: the re-Cuming, the actual reality is that angry, upstanding historians no longer accept consultation jobs in an industry as degenerate as video games, or they just do their job and give less of a fuck.

Welcome to the defeatism and its consequences.