Divinity Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition

[TwinkieGorilla]

it almost sounds like they designed this game to be used with a quest compass only they took the quest compass out)

No it doesn't. Perhaps if you're selectively reading, maybe. What it feels (note: different than 'sounds') like is a game which invites you to discover things or not. I have never been stumped for more than a period of minutes, since it's made very clear in the TUTORIAL that there is ALWAYS a way to progress, if you're not too daft not to explore and use your head.

I'm not going to say that it's always easy, but there's always what we call the n+1 solution. There's n solutions, and then there's always a fall-back solution. The one that is always going to work, no matter what. A player can stumble upon an answer and make some progress.

MILD SPOILER HOLY SHIT WATCH OUT

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The legionnaire in the prison comes to mind. It's not necessary to find him after a certain quest. It doesn't affect your progression at all. And there's nothing really which points you there. And just like games I grew up playing, it's the sort of thing you *might* run into by happenstance and potentially stand to gain a minor reward because of it. This type of gameplay serves to reward the type of player for who "exploration" is a selling point and actually a sort of game mechanic unto itself.

Not saying this is preferable to people used to modern "RPGs" or people like you who like their experiences watered down and bereft of any kind of fun, but as I just stated...it's reminiscent of the type of unspoken challenges of the games I grew up playing. Hell, I used to get stuck for days at a time with some of those old jams. Granted I was a kid, but this game is the closest I've been to feeling that way and the people who whine about it can fuck right off.

 

[da_rays]

I played this yesterday. remote control?

As for the Mecha, I believe its problem is that it is big and it can be stopped from reaching its chosen target, which kind of lock it down against some melee characters. that is my estimation from my second fight (first was a burn accident!) against it

Remote control with that user book. Or without the book, might be funnier . PARTY MODE ON

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[Suicidal]

It feels like a singleplayer (/coop) turn-based WoW

That's like saying Jagged Alliance is a turn-based isometric Call of Duty.

 

[Spockrock]

what a shit analogy, implying the only thing WoW and this have in common is they both are Fantasy. sometimes I wonder how a single forum can have so many people lacking in critical thinking

 

[TheGreatOne]

Contrary to popular JES cultist beliefs:
A)You can't claim to be an "expert" on the subject just by reading the wikipedia summary: before you play it, your opinion is worthless. When you refuse to play it and still think you have a right to an opinion, you're an obnoxious casual gamer cunt.
B)Catering to the lowest common denominator to increase sales does not mean your game has superior design
C)It's not OK even if you do wear a skirt and cover your face

 

[Xeon]

it almost sounds like they designed this game to be used with a quest compass only they took the quest compass out)

No it doesn't. Perhaps if you're selectively reading, maybe. What it feels (note: different than 'sounds') like is a game which invites you to discover things or not. I have never been stumped for more than a period of minutes, since it's made very clear in the TUTORIAL that there is ALWAYS a way to progress, if you're not too daft not to explore and use your head.

Really? Sure there are some quests where you can do them in multiple ways but a lot of them later gets pretty linear. A door you can't destroy or give you another way to advance until you find a button to unlock it. Journal also sucks, it only tells you the objectives or whatever its called but they don't say anything and most of them you can't question NPCs about probable hints like in Morrowind or even Baldur's Gate IIRC. Troll King's cave was one of them I think.

I kinda liked the writing, it was pretty witty I think like the one with the wishing wells using words with W, I really enjoyed that and a few other things I can't really remember so writing was pretty good I think, some puzzles also were pretty good.

 

[Kirkpatrick]

rotfl

Noticed them some time ago, they are heading for last inactive portal, and disappear in a puff of smoke. Will that portal ever be active?

And what about the garden, will that be accessible?

Guess I'll know myself soon, as I'm nearing the end of the game.

 

[kris]

Is this just me or do others have problem with combat movement?

1. You can miss-click on enemies that are small, behind you or sway. Which will then mean you will walk around them...

2. clicking on a spell don't always register, which means you mage will walk up to opponents.

3. At least for me there seems to be some bugs where PC move to the edge of the screen, often in another direction than I clicked on.

 

[Grunker]

Biggest problem the game has is finnicky control during combat, especially with regards to movement. A grid would have served this game well. Backstabbing position is never clear, clicking one milipixel wrong will leave you trodding thorugh fire and brimstone etc etc.

 

[King Arthur]

The content seems like a mixed bag. Sounds like there are some good encounters, levels, and puzzles, but also very poor directions about what you should do and where you should go (different from handholding; it almost sounds like they designed this game to be used with a quest compass only they took the quest compass out), occasional progress-halting from doing things the way they didn't and breaking scripts, and some long-winded, awful writing. I suppose the lack of Rhianna Pratchett script-doctoring is to blame for that last one, guess they shouldn't have let her go so soon after all. Too bad the American woman they hired to co-write wasn't enough.

It seems like that to me as well. I've played for a few hours and had to look up this:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/230230/discussions/0/540734254933715987/ (read the third post)

A lot of the other quests seem equally as vague. Essentially you'll be told about a giant robot you have to kill, or a sunken ship you have to find, or a lighthouse, but you won't be told where exactly those things are. You're supposed to bushwhack around the countryside hoping to stumble upon the leads you're given. Good thing the map is limited.

 

[MasterSmithFandango]

What the hell is up with those caves with environmental pillars to the Northwest of Cyseal? Never figured out what those were about. One is guarded by skeles, the other by fire elementals.

 

[Raghar]

This is bit more brutal headless chicken. Have you seen Jirui wa Shimashita?

Yes there is an explanation, but do you want to risk by hearing it? Or do you want to imagine horrible things full of tentacles have nightmares from that and know that when you hear that explanation the reality would be worse than your worst nightmares?

 

[Kirkpatrick]

Changing camera position helps a lot in combat in terms of movement/positioning and targeting.

And about Evelyn's beach house, that's one of the rare things the game actually marks on your map.

 

[Raghar]

What the hell is up with those caves with environmental pillars to the Northwest of Cyseal? Never figured out what those were about. One is guarded by skeles, the other by fire elementals.

Ask rats.

 

[Kirkpatrick]

Rats are basically a cheat. Love them!

 

[Gord]

What the hell is up with those caves with environmental pillars to the Northwest of Cyseal? Never figured out what those were about. One is guarded by skeles, the other by fire elementals.

It's a riddle. Read the stone tablets in the caves.
You need to pull the right sequence of levers in both caves.

When you solve it right, you gain entrance to some treasure room.

 

[Crooked Bee]

The content seems like a mixed bag. Sounds like there are some good encounters, levels, and puzzles, but also very poor directions about what you should do and where you should go (different from handholding; it almost sounds like they designed this game to be used with a quest compass only they took the quest compass out), occasional progress-halting from doing things the way they didn't and breaking scripts, and some long-winded, awful writing. I suppose the lack of Rhianna Pratchett script-doctoring is to blame for that last one, guess they shouldn't have let her go so soon after all. Too bad the American woman they hired to co-write wasn't enough.

It seems like that to me as well. I've played for a few hours and had to look up this:

http://steamcommunity.com/app/230230/discussions/0/540734254933715987/ (read the third post)

A lot of the other quests seem equally as vague. Essentially you'll be told about a giant robot you have to kill, or a sunken ship you have to find, or a lighthouse, but you won't be told where exactly those things are. You're supposed to bushwhack around the countryside hoping to stumble upon the leads you're given. Good thing the map is limited.

Ugh. I didn't have any problems finding any of those things, and I have no words. The decline must have really taken root.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Journal also sucks, it only tells you the objectives or whatever its called but they don't say anything and most of them you can't question NPCs about probable hints like in Morrowind or even Baldur's Gate IIRC.

So....not enough hand-holding? I don't get it. This is surely by design. It's not like they left off information which points you EXACTLY where you need to go by accident. And yes, again, I'd happily say this is one of my favorite features of the game.

 

[Renevent]

I mean, there's some pretty good puzzles/mysteries in the game...but if someone had to actually run out to a forum to figure that one out they're a fucking idiot.

 

[da_rays]

Changing camera position helps a lot in combat in terms of movement/positioning and targeting.

And about Evelyn's beach house, that's one of the rare things the game actually marks on your map.

I rarely entre a combat without pressing B for that eagle view. Doesnt help with the jiggling ennemies that you can miss click for non wanted close quarter. I can tolerate those gridless combat but it would be nice to have something to select/lock a target.

Evelyn house in Cyseal, Evelyn secret place. Thats the only 2 marker i remember.

Evelyn: Original Sin

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[gunman]

Wow, I really love this game. Best fun with a new game I had in years. Before I just kept rebooting old games over and over again.
My only minor complains is that the camera perspective can be a little annoying (parts of near scenery obstructing the viewport or losing the focus when moving from different terrain elevations) and the inability to completely pause the game world without exiting.

 

[Lerk]

No, you're not the only one. Roguey doesn't like it, either - so you're in good company.

Many of the systems sound terrible, as I anticipated.

The content seems like a mixed bag. Sounds like there are some good encounters, levels, and puzzles, but also very poor directions about what you should do and where you should go (different from handholding; it almost sounds like they designed this game to be used with a quest compass only they took the quest compass out), occasional progress-halting from doing things the way they didn't and breaking scripts, and some long-winded, awful writing. I suppose the lack of Rhianna Pratchett script-doctoring is to blame for that last one, guess they shouldn't have let her go so soon after all. Too bad the American woman they hired to co-write wasn't enough.

If you put as much effort into actually playing the games you like to take a piss on, you might actually have something worth saying.

Though, probably not.

 

[LeJosh]

Pressing B for top down view is practically essential for a few areas.

You can also click on an enemy portrait at the top to target them.

 

[TwinkieGorilla]

Is this just me or do others have problem with combat movement?

1. You can miss-click on enemies that are small, behind you or sway. Which will then mean you will walk around them...

2. clicking on a spell don't always register, which means you mage will walk up to opponents.

3. At least for me there seems to be some bugs where PC move to the edge of the screen, often in another direction than I clicked on.

1. Be careful!

2. You have to right-click off the spell you've chosen if you want to choose another spell.

• But also: Be careful!

3. Um, be careful?


P.S. Grunker , I mentioned this a few pages back but you do get some free movements (0 pt) for the sake of position which I'm guessing was a matter of making up for this issue, especially in regards to backstabbing. As I stated before, 9 times out of 10 I'm able to get into proper position without wasting another point.

 

[Kirkpatrick]

You can also click on an enemy portrait at the top to target them.

That sometimes works, sometimes not for me.