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Divinity Divinity: Original Sin - Enhanced Edition

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You can press the Alt key to highlight stuff.
Useful to know but only highlights like 20% of things (objects in the game world you can pick up but not containers... which contain things). It's so useless that I didn't even notice it doing anything when I tried out the keys.

You can ungroup your party. You can put your characters all over the place.

Alright, figured out how to do this. Fucking awful UI though. Larian have apparently never played any other RPG. And still doesn't let you use multiple characters at once.
 

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You can lead a retard to the solution, but you sure can't make him able to think.
 
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The interface changes if you're playing with a controller, I think usable stuff is highlighted as you approach it (plus it's way easier to not fuck up a possible click due to the pixel hunting autism that might happen with tiny stuff in the game world)
 

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Half of the mechanics are designed for coop.

I don't understand Larian's obsession with co-op. TB RPGs are some of the last type of games I would wanna play in co-op.

And yes, I'm aware of the whole "simulating muh dnd session" thing. Fuck that!
 
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Half of the mechanics are designed for coop.

I don't understand Larian's obsession with co-op. TB RPGs are some of the last type of games I would wanna play in co-op.

And yes, I'm aware of the whole "simulating muh dnd session" thing. Fuck that!
Co-op was one of the main reasons why DOS was so successful and contributed to its longevity. It's not just two human controlled characters, they are meant to actually cooperate.
 

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- Did I mention cast times are long out of combat? Have fun waiting a full 6 seconds. Wait, no, not even 6 seconds, because you cast a spell in 6 seconds then have to wait for the effects of the spell (e.g. a spider climbing down from the ceiling) until you can actually perform another actions.
Yeah that's really retarded. Just install speedhack. Ironically though it's obviously unusable in the coop which this game was basically made for.
 

Butter

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Yeah it's probably the worst UI in any CRPG. I can't think of anything that comes close.
 
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The interface changes if you're playing with a controller, I think usable stuff is highlighted as you approach it (plus it's way easier to not fuck up a possible click due to the pixel hunting autism that might happen with tiny stuff in the game world)
You know, I didn't want to complain about this because it smacks of "git gud", but the fact that there's no soft lock on enemy targets is annoying. Like 95% of games in the RTS/RPG genres will give you some kind of soft lock on where abilities default to the nearest target within a few inches of what you click, and if you want to specifically target the ground then you hold CTRL or something. Not D:OS. Everything can end up targeting the ground if you are even 1 pixel off even if its ability with no AoE that does nothing when targeted at the ground. It's not something that happens terribly often but it does happen whenever you aren't paying attention to remind you "oh yeah, this game lacks basic player accomodations everything else has".

- Did I mention cast times are long out of combat? Have fun waiting a full 6 seconds. Wait, no, not even 6 seconds, because you cast a spell in 6 seconds then have to wait for the effects of the spell (e.g. a spider climbing down from the ceiling) until you can actually perform another actions.
Yeah that's really retarded. Just install speedhack. Ironically though it's obviously unusable in the coop which this game was basically made for.

It doesn't truly fix the problem of spending 1 out of every 5 seconds re-buffing, worse if you want to keep up more than one thing. With a speedhack you're still at that same ratio of time wasted:useful time.

I do normally/often speedhacking my SP RPGs but I've never been tempted to do it like this before playing like 20 hours at least.
 

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Codex+ Now Streaming! Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
With everybody chewing on BG3 I've decided to give the other not so old Larian titles another go. Did never finish OS2 and the same goes for OS1. Still on the fence of which I should pick 1 or 2.

Checked the multiplayer on the first one and it's filled with Slavs. Not a bad thing, but Slavs tend not to be very reliable. So does anyone want to play through this with me? No voice chat required and no rushing through the content. Would want to play it on Tactician Mode. Message me or reply here if interested in playing.
 

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From the few snippets of the game I've seen, BG3 seems to be full of cliches and overdone tropes. Astarion's "vegetarian" vampirism and the creepy surgeon who vivisects people are great examples. I'm sure that every short clip I can find will be some sort of familiar trope. That's why I'm in no rush to play it even though I can also easily pirate it if I wanted to.
 

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
From the few snippets of the game I've seen, BG3 seems to be full of cliches and overdone tropes. Astarion's "vegetarian" vampirism and the creepy surgeon who vivisects people are great examples. I'm sure that every short clip I can find will be some sort of familiar trope. That's why I'm in no rush to play it even though I can also easily pirate it if I wanted to.
Quoth the castrati paladin
 

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Pathfinder: Wrath
From the few snippets of the game I've seen, BG3 seems to be full of cliches and overdone tropes. Astarion's "vegetarian" vampirism and the creepy surgeon who vivisects people are great examples. I'm sure that every short clip I can find will be some sort of familiar trope. That's why I'm in no rush to play it even though I can also easily pirate it if I wanted to.
Quoth the castrati paladin
At least you still remember my castrati paladins ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 

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Enjoy the Revolution! Another revolution around the sun that is.
Oh, you'd be surprised how fast you'll start wanting to rush through the content (especially the writing).
Is BG3 writing just as cringe?

BG3 writing is a creative tabletop GM who keeps introducing cool shit but has no regard for structure or coherence. If you enjoy D&D camp you’ll like it, if you don’t, YMMV.
I enjoyed D:OS overall but the writing was fanfictiony, unskillful, without any style or class, topped with terrible, cringy German humour. As much as ppl make fun of Pillars mechanically, the writing in that game oozes professionalism and experience in comparison.

It's like a difference between a lunch in an American fast food with piles of stale burgers, oversweet doughnuts, tough hot wings, burned chips, a horde of kids screaming in a bouncy castle and a mariachi band yodeling next table and a lunch in a stylish sushi restaurant with soft lightning and harmony of tastes.

I guess in BG3 it's the fast food all over again then.
 

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it's rectified in DOS2 where every backstory is connected to another and every faction mentioned in the game has a specific bid, they're not all manipulated by the God King swirling his moustache and sneering obnoxiously
too bad the actual quality of writing is just the same larian drivel
 

ERYFKRAD

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Strap Yourselves In Serpent in the Staglands Shadorwun: Hong Kong Pillars of Eternity 2: Deadfire Steve gets a Kidney but I don't even get a tag. Pathfinder: Wrath I'm very into cock and ball torture I helped put crap in Monomyth
From the few snippets of the game I've seen, BG3 seems to be full of cliches and overdone tropes. Astarion's "vegetarian" vampirism and the creepy surgeon who vivisects people are great examples. I'm sure that every short clip I can find will be some sort of familiar trope. That's why I'm in no rush to play it even though I can also easily pirate it if I wanted to.
Quoth the castrati paladin
At least you still remember my castrati paladins ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Terrible stuff is harder to forget. Also my memory is a blessing and curse.
 

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Oh, you'd be surprised how fast you'll start wanting to rush through the content (especially the writing).
Is BG3 writing just as cringe?

For the most part it doesn't have that over the top "look at me, I'm so funny and random" humor that Larian's previous games did.
 

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