Expeditions: Rome - the final Expeditions game from Logic Artists

[goregasm]

Yea, Viking was definitely a good/great game. Replaying it now actually, still holds up imo, it's quite ahistorical, but still decent enough flavor.

Rome was one that was definitely sending off warning signs to me. A rather cosmopolitan egalitarian view was sort of presented to me, I could be wrong as I haven't played it, but definitely was giving off some odd vibes, more so than vikings.

May still pick it up in a few years on a ridiculous discount, but in the mean time have no need of it.

The whole series is pretty good, but also infuriating with it being set in interesting, grounded historical eras, but with a jumbled mess of modern ahistorical presidence, for "roleplay"

 

[Shrimp]

Conquistadors and Vikings were both great games and Rome was meant to be their swan song game, but felt more like a death rattle.
The studio disbanded with the management jumping on the fucking NFT bandwagon of all things and the developers trying to make their own small-scale studio only to get caught up and forcibly shut down as a part of Embracer Group's restructuring. What a tragic legacy to leave behind tbh

 

[Modron]

Rome was meant to be their swan song game

Rome wasn't meant to be their Swan song the two money bros decided to jump ship, and chase the NFT fad, and announced the studio was closed despite the third partner who wanted to make games and most of the staff were still working on support and dlc for Rome.

 

[cvv]

What a tragic legacy to leave behind tbh

Karma for all the female conquistadors, Vikings and legates.

 

[Mauman]

What a tragic legacy to leave behind tbh

Karma for all the female conquistadors, Vikings and legates.

The female conquistadors didn't bother me that much as there were actually conquistadoras. Granted, you could count the recorded numbers on your fingers and toes, but they were there. I was able to pretend that maybe the noble house the MC came from was eccentric. Now the female commander in the tutorial? That made me go "da fuuuuu?" a bit. Also it was ironic that the natives had a more realistic depiction of men and women roles than the Spanish.

Now Vikings? Yeah, they deserve some shit, and so does every other fucking numbnuts that goes on about "shield maidens". There is NO recorded instance of a female viking/raider ever. People amp up the Valkyries forgetting that the Valkyries weren't warriors. They guided the warriors of battle to Valhalla. They were essentially glorified maids, NOT warriors.

bUT BuRiaLs fOuND gIRl WitH weAPon oh fuck off already. There's a ton reasons a woman could have been buried with weapons and armor back then, and none of them were "badass female raider". Any source you have is almost certainly politically tainted so shove it up your ass.

Even worse were the female Briton soldiers and ESPECIALLY the Picts. Both the Pict recruit you get and the female commander made me role my eyes.

For the record, I liked Vikings, but it definitely had a fair amount of modern day bullshit and chips.

edit - oh, and the female Jarl that heads up the big city you go to in the tutorial map. That made me face palm a bit.

 

[cvv]

The female conquistadors didn't bother me that much as there were actually conquistadoras.

My understanding is they were just wives that accompanied their conquistadoring husbands to the New World. I doubt they actually wore the funny helmets and shot Indians from muskets, like in the game.

As for the shield maiden point, it's been recorded Slavic and Nordic women did actually fight in wars but it was p. much exclusively in defensive situations, for example when a village or a city was attacked and about to fall they grabbed swords and joined the men defending their home. But yeah, none of them was gallivanting around and raiding some distant places, that's modern BS.

 

[Mauman]

The female conquistadors didn't bother me that much as there were actually conquistadoras.

My understanding is they were just wives that accompanied their conquistadoring husbands to the New World. I doubt they actually wore the funny helmets and shot Indians from muskets, like in the game.

As for the shield maiden point, it's been recorded Slavic and Nordic women did actually fight in wars but it was p. much exclusively in defensive situations, for example when a village or a city was attacked and about to fall they grabbed swords and joined the men defending their home. But yeah, none of them was gallivanting around and raiding some distant places, that's modern BS.

There's a few paintings out there showing them wearing the helmets, and a few of the recorded ones were independent women (or as independent as a women could be back then). Also, I'm not claiming the game was anywhere NEAR realistic when it came to them but there was a basis in reality for their existence. Hence my "eccentric noble house" idea.

And yes, I acknowledge that females fought to defend homelands when the men were out raiding or if they were absolutely desperate in a war. The desperate bit is the key here. These women weren't trained badass shield maidens. They were given the basics and were essentially the last line of defense (when everything else was already fucked).

That's even one of the reason WHY they might be buried with weapons/armor (there's a lot of reasons that have nothing to do with fighting however). But that's not being a viking. I'm also aware that when slavic/nordic women fought, they usually got their asses murdered. Or raped then murdered given the viking culture.

edit - here, one of the more (in)famous conquistadoras https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inés_Suárez

She was essentially a widow by the time she came over, but she was involved in the fighting (how much is a matter of debate).

 

[Tyranicon]

Nobody ever includes the super historical and super realistic camp follower!

WTF, devs need to make that a mechanic. We're turning a blind eye to the struggles and stories of real women in favor of fictional ones!

I'll put camp followers in my medieval cultist game. They'll be super accurate.

 

[PorkyThePaladin]

Please don't. Just imagine a woman who has sex all day with unwashed lice ridden, infected by every STD known to man soldiers all day by the dozens. This was only a thing because water was too dirty to drink, so they all drank booze all day long.

 

[mediocrepoet]

Please don't. Just imagine a woman who has sex all day with unwashed lice ridden, infected by every STD known to man soldiers all day by the dozens. This was only a thing because water was too dirty to drink, so they all drank booze all day long.

Yes, we know about your mother. You don't need to continue with the details.

 

[Lord_Potato]

Please don't. Just imagine a woman who has sex all day with unwashed lice ridden, infected by every STD known to man soldiers all day by the dozens. This was only a thing because water was too dirty to drink, so they all drank booze all day long.

STDs became a serious problem only in the 15th century when the Spanish brought syphilis from Hispaniola (I know it's sometimes called the French disease, but it was actually a Spanish gift to Europe, the French soldiers merely spread it around Italy, giving it its popular name).

So in the Roman and Viking era it should be okay. Vikings though rarely had camp followers because whenever it was possible they traveled on longboats with a very limited space. Hence their baggage train was pretty minimal.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I'll put camp followers in my medieval cultist game. They'll be super accurate.

That just means they'll be super ugly.

 

[mediocrepoet]

I'll put camp followers in my medieval cultist game. They'll be super accurate.

That just means they'll be super ugly.

God damn it. I play games for escapism, not to get horrific flashbacks about times as a younger man when my lower brain won.

 

[AwesomeButton]

I'll put camp followers in my medieval cultist game. They'll be super accurate.

That just means they'll be super ugly.

Tyranicon, in the name of realism you should make super detailed, unskippable, sex animations with those ugly women, but implement a mechanic that lowers the soldiers' stats if they don't have sex regularly.

 

[Mauman]

I'll put camp followers in my medieval cultist game. They'll be super accurate.

That just means they'll be super ugly.

Tyranicon, in the name of realism you should make super detailed, unskippable, sex animations with those ugly women, but implement a mechanic that lowers the soldiers' stats if they don't have sex regularly.

Sex games that are supposed to kill a boner?

 

[ERYFKRAD]

I'll put camp followers in my medieval cultist game. They'll be super accurate.

That just means they'll be super ugly.

Tyranicon, in the name of realism you should make super detailed, unskippable, sex animations with those ugly women, but implement a mechanic that lowers the soldiers' stats if they don't have sex regularly.

Sex games that are supposed to kill a boner?

There's a niche I didn't need to know of.

 

[Larianshill]

The studio disbanded with the management jumping on the fucking NFT bandwagon of all things and the developers trying to make their own small-scale studio only to get caught up and forcibly shut down as a part of Embracer Group's restructuring. What a tragic legacy to leave behind tbh

You know what, good for them. If Web 3.0 is the great new moneymaker - which it is, moving onto NFTs was a wise move.

Oh...

 

[mediocrepoet]

I'll put camp followers in my medieval cultist game. They'll be super accurate.

That just means they'll be super ugly.

Tyranicon, in the name of realism you should make super detailed, unskippable, sex animations with those ugly women, but implement a mechanic that lowers the soldiers' stats if they don't have sex regularly.

There's a reason boxers aren't supposed to bone before a match and that old myths had the concept of a woman sapping a man's vitality. If anything, not having sex should increase your fighting stats, especially those around aggression and damage dealing. Having sex should cause penalties to fatigue, morale, and willpower that take awhile to come back from. However, sex is one way to keep your society going, alongside things such as slavery. This would work well in a 4X game.

 

[Tyranicon]

Tyranicon, in the name of realism you should make super detailed, unskippable, sex animations with those ugly women

What do I look like, BioWare?

 

[AwesomeButton]

Tyranicon, in the name of realism you should make super detailed, unskippable, sex animations with those ugly women

What do I look like, BioWare?

No, that's what the next part of the sentence is, the one one you didn't quote!

 

[Darth Roxor]

Tyranicon, in the name of realism you should make super detailed, unskippable, sex animations with those ugly women

What do I look like, BioWare?

actually yes

 

[Ladonna]

These guys are apparently going to do more Expeditions games (or not)

https://campfirecabal.com/

We'll see what happens.

 

[ERYFKRAD]

These guys are apparently going to do more Expeditions games (or not)

https://campfirecabal.com/

We'll see what happens.

Might be outdated

 

[Fargus]

These guys are apparently going to do more Expeditions games (or not)

https://campfirecabal.com/

We'll see what happens.

I thought embracer flushed them down the toilet?

 

[Shrimp]

These guys are apparently going to do more Expeditions games (or not)

https://campfirecabal.com/

We'll see what happens.

Might be outdated

Considering the last update is a post from August 2023 saying the studio has closed I don't think there's much to update